Early Ten to Follow thoughts....

* Sorry, I meant Weapons Amnesty has a nice weight for the Hennessy

dubh will find it difficult hot competition in ireland

might give big bucks a miss .8 out of 10 will have him that puts me off may only run once before subs are in so can stick him in then .chance that you could put in a p power horse and get 50 points

h fly is a must with long  run .was not happy with grand crus jumping in france going to miss him out to

Mon Parrain?
What is it with this horse that has got people going on about him??

zarkandar
big bucks
quevega
master minded
wishfull thinking
knights pass
al ferof
bobs worth
ghizao
hurr fly

Mon Perrain is the best jumper of a fence I have ever seen in real life bud.  Having said that he is probably over-rated on what he has achieved so far.

When does the list turn up online, I've already made a shortlist but wanted to trawl the list in case I've missed any horses I fancy.

I seem to remember it had to be entered pre Paddy Power Gold Cup last year.

Reve - Quevega doesn't make much sense at this stage as will only run once within the confines of the competition i.e. at Cheltenham, so will pick up max 25 points. You'll need a minimum 70+ points per horse to have a chance of winning.

im a novice joci...

can someone set up a mini league for the forum, so we can have a bit of fun amongst ourselves as well as the main comp?

i'd have to side with pandorama for the irish hennessy...bad ground and  i would want to be with him.

binocular....with all the decent 2 milers from last year going chasing...apart from spirit son i suppose.....if he can get his act together...races like the fighting fifth and christmas hurdle are there for the taking...aren't they?...or will the likes of oscars well invade our shores?

Zarkander might disagree.

a big step up from the juveniles to champion hurdle horses though isn't it.

Katchit managed it didn't he or was that a year later?

he did....kribensis won them both with a year break in between.....and i think before that it was persian war in '68

If we're talking about Ten to Follow value though, your horse needn't win the Champion Hurdle to score well in the competition, as there are other Grade 2 and Grade 1 hurdles where horses like Zarkander may be able to score well.

that 's what brought me back to binocular....won't beat hf but fighting fifth..christmas hurdle....the oppsition this side of the irish water is miles weaker than last year.

and of course...binocular and spirit son will probably be kept apart.

did i hear something about binocular going chasing?. reminded me of straw bear

no

Not sure about Binocular....very classy if putting it all in, but starting to become a little inconsistent now. Can run brilliantly, then poorly, so not sure what to think with regards to the TTF comp.

no...i'm going to have to stick binocular in my list and hope that we don't have the fiasco we did last year...henderson reports that he looks in serious good order....and as i say with a lot of the opposition going chasing...he would take some beating in the ff and the christmas hurdle with whats left..imo.

Well, I'll perm him with Zarkander and Spirit Son I think, but might just favour the young pretenders.

joci
have you ever had a look at the petermartinconsult ten to follow website?

Yes for years.

Like the idea / method as it makes sense and it's one I was following before stumbling on that website. I made a few suggestions in the past too.

What I don't like about that site though, is that they claim that their lists are good enough to be winning the comp. Effectively, what they're doing is taking the top 10 scorers from their pool of 32 horses, and assuming that through their perming, they'd manage to get all of them in the same list together.

If I did the same, I'd have won the competition ten times over.

i like reading the updates as they go along....don't really get into the perms as i only do 1 or 2 lines anyhow.....it's the last time they are doing it he says this time though...free anyhow.

Yes, it's a good resource for people new to the comp, don't get me wrong, but they just stop short of claiming that they would have won the competition. In reality, many seasoned Ten to Followers are able to come up with a shortlist of high scoring horses, then RETROSPECTIVELY combine the highest scoring of those horses into a 'with hindsight' winning list.

see what you mean....to cover what they're saying before the comp....how many 10'folds in 32 horses lol....you'd still be losing money , even if you won the bloody thing.

well sort of!!

got my list on sat start to get in down to 50 gl

weapons out i would put in a hennsy horse and 2m hurdler over here

Yeah, I think I need a 2 mile hurdler for England.  I thought the Fly might have come over here for the Fighting Fifth and Christmas Hurdle, but saw Mullins said that they'd stick to the same route as last year.

Gutted to hear about Weapons Amnesty – was on at 33’s for the Gold Cup.  Will have to decide on an Irish 3 mile chaser for Lexus, Guiness Gold Cup and possibly Hennesy.  Will either be Jessies Dream, Bostons Angel or Quito de la Roque.

Thinking of a few subs from the original list:
> Noble Prince in for Realt Dubh
> Bobs Worth in for Wishul Thinking
> Spirit Son is the extra one for the 2 mile English hurdles
> Irish 3 mile chaser in for Weapons Amnesty

So the final list will probably be
1. Big Bucks
2. Hurricane Fly
3. Peddlers Cross
4. Noble Prince
5. Master Minded
6. Long Run
7. Mon Parrain
8. Bobs Worth
9. Irish 3 mile Chaser
10. Spirit Son

Still need an out and out 2 mile chaser, but looks a very weak division, and can see them beating each other all year.  Finians' and Ghizao look just short of top class to me, I have doubts over Sizing, Captain Chris is an unknown trip wise and Big Zeb is getting on - can't decide between the five of them.  I like Flat Out, but he's too much of a risk at this stage

REAlt dudb get him in

Howdi i'm so torn between the two, might have to just toss a coin!!

i prefer noble prince!

soft races to be won with him

3 mile chaser Ireland, Quito De La Roque?

too risky could be anything easily end up with 0

What about something like Time For Rupert - could run / win Hennessy?

Quito looks good for the Irish staying chases.

3 mile in soft ground lexus and hennessy has to be pandorama for me....slightly worried that meade might take it ultra easy with him but with his conditions i couldn't put anything in front of him over there.

Big chance if back to best I'd agree.

this is why its the best comp in the world i have both   high in my 50 .will we see more runners here going over the sea

1. bostons angel
2.bostons angel
3.bostons angel
4.bostons angel
5.bostons angel
6.bostons angel
7.bostns angel
8.bostons angel
9.bostons angel
10.bostons angel

disappointed but not unexpected that mount benbulben isn't included in the entry list

lol, 9 no good, been in the news for 4 days now , weapons amnesty is out for the season...