You are being slightly biased Alverado.

Henderson will always have a better string of novice hurdlers, mainly because he recruits from the flat more than Nicholls. The money up for grabs in that division however is relatively irrelevant in the context of this bet. The only significant haul is the supreme novice, in which currently Nicholls has Prospect Wells, a shorter price than any of the Henderson horses.

Hurdlers, you appear to have omitted Celestial Halo, who may be getting on, but will pay his way this year. Nicholls also has Sanctuaire and Brampour, who is a very live outsider for the CH. Binocular is finished! Spirit Son has suffered at setback and is likely to be out beyond Christmas.

Chasers, ok, Nicky has Long Run. Burton Port? Where is he? What would his expected winnings be this season? I'd take even money he doesn't win more than £10k over the season. Nicholls has around twice as many Handicap chasers in training than Henderson. This is where the money is won, week in, week out. Its about 50 vs 25 at the moment. Nicholls has significantly more chasers rated 160+, 150+ and 140+ than Henderson. For races like the Hennessey, Henderson is completely unrepresented, while Nicholls has the favourite and 3rd/4th fav. This will be a similar story for all the major handicap chases throughout the season.

Novice Chasers, again, like the hurdlers, not a huge amount of money up for grabs here, but you can't really mention Mossley but not Sam Winner, given they are a similar price for all novice events at Cheltenham. Nicholls also has Join Together and doubtless many more ex P2P types on their way.

Essentially, Long Run has to win the Betfair Chase, KG and Gold Cup for Henderson to have any chance, and even then it wouldn't be guaranteed. Nicholls has beefed up this year and simply has more horses in training than Henderson. He has already built up a gap of £350k.

This is a big weekend for Henderson and he really needs wins from Long Run and Oscar Whisky to keep tabs for now.

I think that the market has possibly overreacted slightly in making Nicholls 1/2 in places, but he's built up a massive advantage already and I think people are slightly deluded in believing that Henderson has this massively superior top end team to Nicholls. Time will tell, but Henderson only needs a couple of results to go against him and it's all over (Kauto vs Long Run for example), whereas Nicholls is still in the running whatever Long Run does.

biased ? Massivley clueless more like.

Finians Rainbow vs Tataniano for the Tingle Creek, both horse likely to be short in the betting behind Sizing Europe.

Phalaris, how do you know Binocular is finished ? Henderson might have Master of the Hall for the Hennessy ..

the handicap he won has worked out poorly. That said, Tataniano is bound to improve for the run and is still lightly raced.

phalaris binocular will will win treble the amount celestial halo will so too say hes finished youre deluded and SAMWINNER  do me a favour he was tailed off at exeter and brampour for the champion hurdle as if.nicholls might have brought 60 new ones but i doubt henderson will be standing still do u

absolutely right ftm
simonsig/solix tommorow oscar whisky and long run on sat and then a host of exciting novices over fences and hurdles all entered up next week with a rejuvnted BINOCULAR back too this is were the season starts

come on henderson time to eat into pumpkin heads lead

nicky supporters talking like nichols has no good horses... good grief!

hinterland is his best novice and barely been mentioned! if he has a good weekend the title race is over!

KAUTO STAR!

game over for chemical nicky. id expect long run to win his share this season but id say he needed to win em all

silverbuck
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Tell you what Reve, I will put up 200 to back Nicky @ 5/2, if I was as confident as you are about your man I would have no problem laying that.
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Tell you what Silverbuck, get your clueless ass down to a Coral shop, they are laying the 5/2 now!!!

dont go taking 5/2 yet... he will be 3/1 in less than a fortnight

Nobody seems to mention the possibility that neither of the top 2 trainers will win all of the top races. David Pipe, Mullins, McCain to name but three who will win a few of them. Paul Nicholls should be about 2/5 to win it now though unless he gets a really horrible infection in the yard. Anyone know why Overturn is not one of the top 4 in the betting for the CH by the way? Very impressive yesterday I thought.

will defo win the gold cup and king george another slight exaggeration definately? are bookies paying out already?

Won about thirty quid for his troubles today...

As someone correctly point out earlier, he would be 3/1 in a fortnight, and now is. Any hope for Henderson? Has nothing on the big Saturdays. Nicholls string just bigger and better. Ok Henderson has a fair few big guns waiting to come out, but they keep having setbacks and it's already December. We are waiting Nicky!!!...

few for nicky today, not sure if they were worth much tho!

sprinter

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boomshakalacka (spelling) this was prob his biggest earner today! still plenty to do!

big win for hendo in spinal!

wd

nichols still wins, good day for hendo but nichols still well clear and racked up a nice little stack today too, brampour got place money of 13k, harry the viking, the staying hurdler that won (was lucky) still ticking along!


obviously hendos day but nichols will win hard held imo!


if long run won the kg & gc hendo still wouldnt win!


gl tho!

why has this gone so quiet?

come on!!


kauto wins the king george. still cant see hendo making up the ground!

what a prospect sprinter sacre is tho!! wont be as good at chelt imo, will prob win anyway, super jumper, will be much tougher tho!! ill prob be against him!! peddlers not out of it round chelt!!

nichols  maintains a comfortable lead.