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By:
BJG
When: 21 Dec 11 17:34
Agree totally Howdi - i know he doesnt have to say anything but u can be assured he 100% knows wat is runnin in the race at this stage!
By:
wellchief
When: 21 Dec 11 21:16
wellchief 21 Dec 11 16:53
This time last year I had Hurricane Fly at a massive price for Cheltenham, and my @rse went every time I heard his name because of his injury record.

This year I've not got a penny on him so I can relax now.  Would be great to see him back fit and well though.  He runs particularly well fresh (not that he's a slouch normally!), so I think he'd probably only need one run before Cheltenham anyway, and be campaigned for a spring season.

Howdi 21 Dec 11 17:16
dont think it was MASSIVE tbf ^^^^^


Howdi, I had the Fly at 14/1 for last years Champion Hurdle; thats MASSEEEEV!

(PS This isn't aftertiming, I can find threads from before last years CH if you don't believe me WinkWink)
By:
stevo1
When: 21 Dec 11 22:01
Not sure why Racing Post employ him for his sunday column, as Fly not mentioned for weeks makes you wonder?
By:
Howdi
When: 21 Dec 11 22:06
yes chief find 'em by 9am tomorrow or you are going on the afterimers thread Laugh
By:
Howdi
When: 21 Dec 11 22:11
good point stevo bit like been Elvis's manager and writing a monthly column about your other acts who play infront of 40 people on a friday.
By:
wellchief
When: 21 Dec 11 23:15
Please don't put me on the aftertimers Howdi!! Cry

Here's the evidence from Jan 2011

http://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/26630245/ante-post-bets---so-far

The other stand out ones were First Leiutenent at 130/1 and Long Run £55 @ 30/1!!

Looking back now, I think nearly everyone had Cue Card one way or another!!
By:
Howdi
When: 21 Dec 11 23:19
its going to committee chief

we will let you know sir

merry xmas
By:
Howdi
When: 22 Dec 11 01:37
And the trainer reiterated his position on Wednesday. He said: "As I said yesterday, I'm not saying anything until I am ready to run him. Paddy Power can do what they like. I won't talk about him until then."
By:
SN02
When: 22 Dec 11 15:33
Anyone know what is happening with Solwhit this year ?
By:
stevo1
When: 22 Dec 11 15:56
Had injury setback good few months back,allegedly going novice chasing last time i read anything from trainer.
By:
Hanbury
When: 22 Dec 11 17:08
If Hurricane doesnt make the Irish Champion Hurdle I can see Solwhit staying hurdling. If they can get him back in time for the Irish Champion.
By:
BJG
When: 26 Dec 11 11:57
Laddies 2/1 NRNB
By:
stevo1
When: 26 Dec 11 13:58
6/4
By:
BJG
When: 26 Dec 11 15:04
2/1!!
By:
stevo1
When: 26 Dec 11 15:08
Yes correct was 6/4 last night.
By:
BJG
When: 28 Dec 11 10:51
NR again tomorro
By:
wellchief
When: 28 Dec 11 10:57
Peddlers should go Champion hurdle route, looking easier than the Arkle :-)
By:
judorick
When: 28 Dec 11 11:21
5/2 now...
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 28 Dec 11 12:43
I do not get this, if the horse has an injury and may miss the race why not come out and just admit this instead of stringing everyone along! Is Mullins merely after a backable price for connections from them there bookies i wonder? All the speculation about him participating in a race that is still 2.5 months away is quite ridiculous if you ask me.

However, i am going to back the next 3 e/way at best prices, Grandouet @ 6/1 hills, Zarkander 10/1 lads (nrnb), Spirit Son 10/1 koral, and Rock on Ruby @ 12s.Wink

I am sure should the fly not make the race those prices will look very nice, if he does, they wont be too far away with the odd one or two shorter. I am trusting however that all mentioned are intended runners?
By:
strontium
When: 28 Dec 11 12:47
That's four Wink

We haven't seen Zarkander yet this season so who knows, but you're getting NRNB. The others are intended runners as far as I know, though I wouldn't be stunned if RoR waits for the 2 1/2 miler at Aintree.
By:
buddeliea
When: 28 Dec 11 12:57
Dont fancy Bino STS??
By:
wellchief
When: 28 Dec 11 12:57
I'm leaning towards 1000 stars now.

12/1 NRNB seems fair to me, because he isn't a certain runner.  If he wins tomorrow his price will surely shorten, and if he loses they may skip the Champion Hurdle all together and go WH or French CH.
By:
resner not lesnar
When: 28 Dec 11 14:03
Is it possible Mullins has decided to follow the same plan he uses with Quevega for Hurricane Fly. I realise there has been no info which is really unhelpful, but there has been no suggestion of injury either
By:
BJG
When: 28 Dec 11 16:13
Willie Mullins insists there are no problems with Hurricane Fly's wellbeing, despite the reigning Champion Hurdle winner missing another engagement at Leopardstown on Thursday.

Last seen winning at Punchestown in May, Hurricane Fly was ruled out of his first scheduled engagement in last month's Morgiana Hurdle and it had appeared uncertain whether he would line up in this week's Istabraq Festival Hurdle.

He was not declared after failing to impress Mullins sufficiently in recent pieces of work.

"He's grand and Paul Townend rode him out this morning," Mullins said on Wednesday afternoon.

"I just wasn't happy that he was straight enough to do himself justice.

"He's fit and well but he just hasn't worked well enough to run tomorrow.

"He worked against Thousand Stars on the Curragh last week over a mile and two furlongs and he needed it badly. After that I wasn't happy I had him in order.

"I told the owners that I wasn't happy with him and there was a chance he wouldn't run tomorrow. I left him in and decided to make a decision late on.

"As I've said before, he'll run when he's ready and not before.

"I want to get a run into him before Cheltenham."
By:
BJG
When: 05 Jan 12 14:54
The Fly just had a racecourse gallop at Leop Cool
By:
stevo1
When: 05 Jan 12 16:19
Lets hope he came thru it fit and well? Suppose we may find out from trainer very shortly with his regular updates in Sundays Racing Post column??
By:
BJG
When: 05 Jan 12 16:26
Willie Mullins was "absolutely delighted" with Hurricane Fly's latest workout at Leopardstown on Thursday afternoon.

Ireland's champion trainer has recently not been satisfied with the current champion hurdler, and decided not to run him in the Istabraq Festival Hurdle over Christmas.

But after a strong workout with three stablemates, Mullins is hopeful he will make the line-up for the Irish Champion Hurdle at Leopardstown on January 29.

"Everything went very well," said Mullins.

"It was more than a little workout, it was a good piece of work.

"I sent three others to gallop with him. He was ridden by Emmet (Mullins).

"Emmet and Paul (Townend) ride him in all his homework, but I've given Paul a few days off this week.

"Emmet settled him in behind and he cruised up to the others, and when Emmet gave him a squeeze he shot clear. I was absolutely delighted with him, it was just what we wanted to see.

"We're working towards the Irish Champion Hurdle with him on the 29th and hopefully he'll get there."

Hurricane Fly was unbeaten last season, with wins in races like the Hatton's Grace, the Festival Hurdle and the Champion Hurdles at Cheltenham and Punchestown
By:
wellchief
When: 05 Jan 12 17:21
Blue across the board on Oddschecker - just shows what good workout can do!
By:
BJG
When: 11 Jan 12 14:05
Willie Mullins reports Hurricane Fly to be "100%" ahead of his planned seasonal return in the BHP Insurance Irish Champion Hurdle at Leopardstown.

The eight-year-old was unbeaten in five Grade One starts last season, landing the Irish Champion Hurdle, the Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham and rounding off a stellar campaign with victory at Punchestown, but the gelding has sidestepped two intended runs already this season, with the champion trainer admitting he had not been pleased with how his star performer had been showing up at home.

An impressive racecourse gallop at Leopardstown last week was considered a major step forward, however, and Mullins is keeping everything crossed that Hurricane Fly is back at the Foxrock venue on January 29.

"He just hadn't been pleasing me in his work and if his work is not good, I'm not happy and he's not running," Mullins told At The Races.

"He's a horse who is very sharp in his work, but he has obviously not been coming up the gallop as fast as I think he is able to. He did please me the other day and hopefully we can build on that.

"I don't think he needs to improve too much from his work the other day. I thought it was very good work and I'm more than happy with him now. With a clear run between now and the 29th, he'll be more or less at his best I hope.

"At the moment I don't see any problem with Hurricane Fly. He's working well and doing everything right. He did a little bit of work yesterday and I was very pleased with him. Paul (Townend) rode him out this morning and he's 100%.

"I'd say two more good bits of work will do him (before Leopardstown)."

Stablemate Thousand Stars is more likely to line up in the Champion Hurdle than the World Hurdle at Cheltenham in March, according to Mullins.

Mullins said: "At the moment I would be going Champion Hurdle. It's going to be hard to beat Big Buck's (in the World Hurdle), but hopefully, it's going to be hard to beat Hurricane Fly. He's got some nice options after that. I actually think the race in Aintree (Aintree Hurdle over two and a half miles) should be his big target this season."
By:
SoYouThink
When: 11 Jan 12 17:40
It'd worry me that the horse has only put in one good piece of work in some time, and Mullins dosen't appear to know why the other pieces of work were less than what they should be. At least he's not letting on in the interview.

8 months since we seen hthe Champion now, and a lot can happen in 8 months. No horse is immune to losing a bit of the sparkle that makes them so good, not even the greats.

So I'm beginning to think that Hurricane Fly, great and all as he was last season, for some reason is an unhappier horse this season.

All speculative really - I could be spectacularly wrong but the above interview would not inspire me if I was a backer.
By:
BJG
When: 29 Jan 12 14:34
Unbelievable sp today


Beast CoolCool
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 29 Jan 12 14:40
That was majestic. Great to see.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 29 Jan 12 14:46
On at 9/4 the fly Excited, also great performance there from Oscars Well, of which i took some 25s ew, must surely improve for the conditions being better in March, a live outsider to run a place but this is all about the fly! 1000 stars obviously there as a pace maker for me, set the race up beautifully and must surely now be world hurdle bound!

Unaccompanied, never been a great fan of the horse, found out today imo, even if the ground can be blamed for a horse thats supposed to be grade one class and in receipt of 9ib's from everything else in the race ought to have shown up better. No chance what so ever in the champ hdl.

Yes its all about the fly! All value gone now, would be tempted to top up at 5/4 6/5 maybe even 11/10, but not odds on with 6 weeks to go. I reckon he be 11/10 on the day actually, maybe hills/lads could stick their heads out and get publicityConfused
By:
wellchief
When: 29 Jan 12 15:01
If you can find 11/10 on the day can u give me a ring and I'll be straight down.

If anyone lays evs then they've certainly got more balls than me!!!!
By:
kavvie
When: 29 Jan 12 15:10
if it gets there in one piece itl be 4/5 or 8/11 sp..lads 4/56 at mo but they have liabilitys and dont want to lay it..
By:
strontium
When: 29 Jan 12 15:16
STS - I wouldn't read too much into Thousand Stars today. He was clearly used as a pacemaker but that was necessary in a small field. They won't need a pacemaker at Cheltenham and the course plays to TS's strengths so he could well still run in the Champion (and be a decent shout to place). Plus TS jumped poorly today and was sacrificed so his form can't be taken too literally.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 29 Jan 12 15:32
Yes wellchief, his sp will defo be around the 4/6 - 8/11 mark but mark my words, hills/lads/365 will do a so called price war on the first 'banker' of the festival and on the morning of the race they will push him out a couple notches, even if just for a couple hours, i.e if all firms are 4/5, they will go evs, if its generally evs, they will go 11/10 or 6/5! It has been happening every year for the last few, price wars to gain a little extra publicity!


Stront, i am not taking the form literally at all, it was clear to me 1000 stars was there as a pacemaker, but i really dont believe he will run in the champ now, not after that. Unless the race cuts up badly and mullins feels the need for a pacemaker but i cant see that happening at all, not the champ hdl. The champ chs is the race that promises to cut up, quite badly, the gold cup might, but at this stage i can see being at least 15 runners so maybe not. The world hdl will have a max field again.
By:
strontium
When: 29 Jan 12 15:39
STS - it's a bit of a side issue really. Mullins has quite a few options for both races so who knows. I think the deciding factor for TS will be what they consider the better prep for his major targets of the season at Aintree and in the French Champion. I agree they are unlikley to want a pacemaker for our Champion Hurdle and if they do it won't be Thousand Stars.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 29 Jan 12 19:02
Sublime performance and think he surprised Wille a bit today. A joy to watch.

Great run from Oscars too, and I think all the over analysis about him early on this season, can largely be put down to stable form. Harrington has really picked up recently and OW appears to have come right. He looks to have a really good chance of snatching a place imo so good news for 25/1 e/w backers Happy
By:
BJG
When: 13 Mar 12 16:41
Race was a proper anti climax Sad
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