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Hurricane Fly 2/1 best for 2012 Champion Hurdle
Hurricane Fly 2/1 best for 2012 Champion Hurdle
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I would rate 2/1 as one of the best ante post bets I have seen. You are betting 2/1 that he turns up.
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Dont be silly.
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As he is one of the best ante post bets you have seen,i presume you are smashing into him and tying up a load of dosh for 9 months or so.
Only 9 months of hoping he stays sound,and no other horse emerges as a big threat,plus he is as good next March. Good luck!! |
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What other horse is going too emerge as a threat? In my eyes if you keep piling in at 2/1 you will be in a lovely hedging position by Christmas when he goes odds on. Game of opinions but interesting that despite all the waffle on this thread no one appears to want to lay 2s on here
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There will no doubt be a drift some time between January and March when there are rumours about him being injured again
http://www.theracingforum.co.uk/horse-racing-forum/horse-racing/hurricane-fly-drift-t85127.html?sid= (Can't find the Betfair Forum thread on it) I had 14/1 Antepost on the Fly and stupidly layed some of it off in January because of these rumours. However, this was mainly because I'd just lost my AP voucher on Flat Out (who I still think would have won the Arkle) and didn't want to lose two bets in 5 days. If you think 2/1 is a good price then that's fine, but it'll be squeeky bum time in the couple of months running up to the festival for you |
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Personally i am not a layer of horses,i would rather look at potential value elsewhere.I see Oscars Well,Spirit Son and possibly Zarkander as 3 that could improve to be anything this season,and would rather look at backing those types then taking 2's on one horse over 9 months before the race.
Personal choice of course. |
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Game of opinions lads, good luck
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A better tactic would be to back him before he runs his first race of the season and then lay out after when he shortenes, repeat this until you get stuck in nrnb. He won't be beat next march if he holds his form from this season.
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A better tactic would be to back him before he runs his first race of the season and then lay out after when he shortenes, repeat this until you get stuck in nrnb. He won't be beat next march if he holds his form from this season.
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People said the same when Binocular won the champion.
'' He's the best since Istabraq. '' Only injury can stop him'' etc. Lets just wait and see if what the likes of Zarkander and Spirit son are like. |
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Binocular won one race, having lost the other 2 grade 1's he raced in that season and the Champion Hurdle the previous season. Binocular is nothing like fly, one performance is one performance.
Fly has served up fantastic performance after fantastic performance. He's completely different to Binocular. 6 consecutive grade 1 wins is incredibly rare and very special. |
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CV, you seem to know an awful lot about Hurricane Fly. What does his c ock taste like?
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personally think had Bino been running in ireland he may well have won more grade 1's.Not taking anything away from the fly,but eboue is right,a lot were saying bino was the best since istabraq.
Beating Solwhit and Thousand Stars does not warrant comparisms to Istabraq imo,but of course if he were to win another CH or 2,then thats different. We need to see what the up and coming horses bring to the table,one of them could turn out better,just never know. |
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 pmsl @ FFT |
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just seen that. |
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2.68 on here and best price now 7/4 , id suggest those taking the 2s were not the muppets made out by some certain forumites.
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I have to say that I have been completely won over by this horse since his Cheltenham performance and was against him with Peddlers cross. His injury record suggests that 2/1 isn't a spectacular price as he has missed more cheltenham's than made them and even if he is being trained differently you have to factor in some chance of injury. Agree with CV that Laddies might push the boat out with a NRNB before the new year and I will be pilling in if that happens. His cruising speed was such I don't see what else is out there coming through which will challenge, the supreme didn't bring forward an outstanding contender and the Champion Hurdle has a good record of repeat winners. Hopefully someone might do 6/4 or 7/4 something like that with a run which would be perfect.
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Though it might be even money with a run if the price keeps moving in the next few months
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Prince of Pirates could be interesting
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Watch out for Pittoni next season if he goes hurdling again, He is way ahead of his mark from what I hear, might do a Khyber Kim on it.
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Had a good look through this last night - actually there really is no opposition is there
 Peddlars Cross - Goin chasin Binocular - not good enough now is he? Oscars Well,Spirit Son,Zarkander - potential but all have to improve massively still Al Ferof - Chasin? Menorah - Chasin? Oscar Whiskey - 3m Thousand Stars 3m Topolski,Unaccompanied,So Young,Cue Card,Kyber Kim, Mille Chief - not good enough Dunguib/Go Native?? Both injured and would need to return better than ever to win Still think we'll get odds against NRNB - but maybe im bein to hopeful HF will win the Irish G1s as he did this year presumably in an impressive manner - bar Oscars Wekk maybe there is no decent Irish hurdler so most of them could be walkovers Can see Spirit Son/Zarkander winnin a few of the Eng CH trials and bein hyped up and holdin up the HF price All good in theory  The Fly  |
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Oscars Well**
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Misses the Morgiana at the weekend, better only be a minor problem
 Mullins to release a statement later |
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Not the news I wanted wake up to. A statement later today doesn't sound good
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Indeed, that is the very worrying bit
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He is very injury prone - he's only made 1 festival of 3 in his career so far.
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the world awaits mullins statement. my money is that we'll be more confused than we were to start with
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out for couple of weeks no biggy imo just holding fire
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Out till xmas
Lads gone 2s again |
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JOCI Club Date 20 Nov 11 14:21
Impressive stuff from Thousand Stars - could it be Hurricane Fly was withdrawn because this fella was galloping all over him at home? |
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Istabraq Festival Hurdle 8/11 Hurricane Fly, 7/2 Thousand Stars, 7 Unaccompanied, 10 Voler La Vedette, 12 bar 20 bar
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BJG - I was fortunate enough to be at the festival last year and H FLy was mighty impressive . From your previous post about competition for the C Hurdle what are your thoughts about Grandouet ? I backed Grandouet las time out and he looks impressive but I missed the 15s on offer - do you think H FLy will be way too strong for it if turning up fully fit ?
I do want to stat backing H FLy for the C Hurdle but do worry about it not turning up ! |
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If H Fly turns up in the same form as last year - he will win easily to my mind
But it has to be a big if with him seein he has only made it to 1 of the last 3 festivals Grandouet sets the standard of the challengers on what i have seen so far Thousand Stars and Oscar Whisky likely to be stepped up in trip??? Spirit Son and Zarkander could still be anything but need to show they are up to this level, same could be said of ROR HF rock solid if he gets there 100% |
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IF he even gets there............he must be very injury prone
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Drifted to evens.. Suggests he probably isn't running?
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This time last year I had Hurricane Fly at a massive price for Cheltenham, and my @rse went every time I heard his name because of his injury record.
This year I've not got a penny on him so I can relax now. Would be great to see him back fit and well though. He runs particularly well fresh (not that he's a slouch normally!), so I think he'd probably only need one run before Cheltenham anyway, and be campaigned for a spring season. |
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dont think it was MASSIVE tbf ^^^^^
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pphorseracing Paddy Power Racing
Istabraq festival hurdle market now suspended  Surely the FLy aint out again, stil some up on here to back him so must be ok??! |
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pphorseracing Paddy Power Racing
Paddy sd: “weve now seen a lot of money for 1000 stars & until Willie Mullins can give people a bit more info, we're just too in the dark." |
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imo willie mullins is a disgrace - never a word fr4om him and when there is its not to be believed
In a world of ante post markets couldnt he give punters a chance. |