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Agree, CCM, but for me, he's got plenty to do enter the picture. Yet to prove he's a 2 miler or that he's up to Champion class, but one of several who could press claims as the season progresses.
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But very few novices will ever have the form that to put them into Champion Hurdle class will they MM?
He could do no more than trounce the field in the Deloitte. Had he won the Ballymore, he still wouldnt have the form in the book, but couldnt do any more. Dont get me wrong, I dont think he is anywhere near as good as HF. I'm looking for potential improvers at a decent price. And I still think this horse will prove himself to be top class and a real e/w chnace in the CH. I also think the CH trip will prove to be ideal. Obviously just my opinion. But he travelled so powerfully at the Festival last year, that I thought he would probably have been better off in the Supreme. |
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He travelled really well today and seemed to settle much better, so you'd have to say 2 miles is his trip.
I thought he looked the winner to out, and Robbie Power was really easy on him after the last. Will come on a bundle for that. This time last year I had Peddlers Cross at 16/1 for the Champion Hurdle, after his impressive run in the Neptune, where he looked all speed. Oscars Well is very similar in that respect, and maybe it takes him a run before his best, where last year Peddlers blew everyone away beating Binocular first time up. I think Oscars Well has the potential to be as good as Peddlers over hurdles; but as with Peddlers there was one that was too good. As I said months ago in this thread, he was my big nap at Cheltenham, and won have won a fortune if he'd have jumped the last properly. Woould have liked him to win today, but that means there are still a few tasty each way prices to get stuck into! |
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I thought he travelled well today and did look the winner two out but either he blew up or found little. I think first run you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. If there was a disappointing aspect to todays performance it was that he was behind Kalann, even given the race fitness.
However I don't think that answered any of the questions I have. Such as is he a 2 miler or better at 2m4? Also is he a bridle horse? - the better races he's won have been on the bridle. Next race will be more informative. |
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i think im the only person alive who doesn't think he would have won the neptune had he jumped the last.
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I thought I was Howdi. First impression on the day was he would have won. However when I watched it back I think he was tiring coming to the last
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^^^^ shrewdy imo
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It was actually what made me consider him for the Champion Hurdle, thought he might be a speed horse and might not have quite stayed up the hill over 2m4. I'm starting to wonder if he is just a bridle horse though now.
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same here.
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^ I agree with you two! Also thought he was winning at Cheltenham on the day but having looked back at the tape I'm not so sure. Having said that, I'm far from convinced he is a two-miler. I think he stays just fine and think it could be something of a red herring that he travels so well in his races. My instinct is that the two-and-a-half-mile novices of last season were good but not great, and thus, tanking along against them would not mean he'd do the same in a Champion Hurdle, for example.
All this said, I am a big admirer of the horse and wouldn't be at all surprised to see him win good races this season - just not sure where they will be or over what distance. I thought it was a perfectly satisfactory reappearance under the conditions against good yardsticks. Although ever so slightly disappointing from a pure form stance, I think he will come on a lot for it. |
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I agree with that Tom. I think he will improve. I also like this horse a great deal, and whilst not knocking him, the Neptune did turn into a bit of a sprint. He made a very striking impression in the race for me, and was last off the bridle, but that impression may be in part attributable to that very slow early pace. Given the way he travels though, the faster pace of 2m could well help.
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Can get 25's now,ive had some
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Without having seen the race, I was a bit disappointed to read he's finished third. After seeing the race, I was more encouraged by his performance.
Shouldn't get carried away with the first performance of a season by any horse, as hard to tell how fit they might be. This will have just been a stepping stone / fitness enhancing exercise. Remember, Long Run was pretty well beaten first time out last season. |
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Had them beat 2 out,and blew up.Had he been fit i think he would have won pretty easily.
Tough nut to crack in the CH of course,but think as the season unfolds i think we will see Oscars far shorter than he is now. |
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Harrington had warned during the week he'd lack a bit of fitness. I wouldn't be disheartened at all and I might even take some of the 25s
The Fly is obviously the one to beat but even if he does go in again something has to be 2nd & 3rd! |
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unfit schooling sessh, shame on you harrington
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Didn't take long for Fred to realise 25s was a daft over-reaction.
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Exactly Dan. Even the 20's is only available with Hills now.... as low as 12's in places!!
Just taken a bit more of the 20's. If he wins the Morgiana impressively with no HF in the race now, he'll be nearer 10's imo. |
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Never mind AP for the big day, how about for Sunday. 5/2 looks a great bet to me. Cant believe Pittoni is shorter.
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He doesn't deserve to be 12 in places though. Not yet, anyway. 16/1 is about the right price given Hurricane Fly has had a setback and also apparently Spirit Son ..
IF OW wins on Sunday i'd guess he'd be about 10's. |
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How isn't he fav for Sunday???
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Irrespective of Sundays outcome In still maintain they should have gone chasing
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Any mention from Jessie about this one recently?
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Hurricane Fly wins again if turning up,Oscars Well however will prove the
biggest danger if running.Much the best horse in the race at Cheltenham where he was always travelling and the 2m of the C Hdle will suit,imo. 25s looks good E/W value and if the Fly don't run it could look massive on the day. GL ALL. |
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loved this horse last year and backed him heavy in the BP Race at Chelters. His two impressive wins in Ireland, in fast time on the bridle were both over 19+ furlongs on soft going and I fear he is going to be going dependent
will certainly be following his progress but could not contemplate risking any money til he shows some level of form good enough to compete at the top level and on good going |
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Oscars being backed today, any idea why? Has a tipping line put him up?
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see the thread toms champion hurdle pick ..........it may tell you something !
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Not tipping line see Foyles post re pricewise.
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Not tipping line see Foyles post re pricewise.
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tx, I'm aware of the thread, was just wondering if someone like Paul Jones has put him up as an anti-post bet.
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still 25s or was 20 mins ago at lads nrnb. worse each way bets than this one !
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Think that he's got a lot to find with the principles in the market though.
He was my nap of last years festival but you'd have to say he's been disappointing this season. Fair enough, he could improve in spring like last year, but you're taking a big leap of faith because his form this year is not Chanmpion Hurdle form. He may have been running in slow run races, but he doesn't seem to have the kick of a Champion Hurdle horse - Unnaccompanied breezed past him. If Pricewise picks him it will be on the similar lines of Captain Chris. Been disappointing, but improves in spring and has good potential. Only thing is the Gold Cup lacks the strength in depth of the Champion Hurdle. |