Time For Rupert - dropped out?

Failed to sparkle or pick up, something obviously amiss at it didnt run within a stone of its form dont think any jockey would have won on it tbh

Horses are pack animals dropping him out right at the start was a weird change of tactics compared to his previous runs and very high risk on the day it mattered surely? Right from tapes up I was wondering what the hell he was doing.

Honestly think he bottled it, had a brain bypass and thought he was stones clear so would drop him out to come through easily late. On that ground that was never going to happen they were going quick and he has excellent Gd/Sft form why didnt he have the horse in amongst it as usual ready to dominate not having to come from miles back off a quick ground pace ... ?

Speaking through my pocket my heart sunk to see him dropped out early on like that.  It's quite rare to see a horse right out the back win a championship race at Cheltenham.  Having said that the jockey got pretty violent with him to get him going a long way from home to no avail, I'm sure what's when burst.   Blame the horse or the trainer rather than the jockey.

re-watched it and it looks more like the horse couldnt keep up rather than dropped out. After the first when the angle changed on the bend he went backwards.

Are you" Getting out of here" tomorrow Eric

Just watched it again, had him settled in the rear about 15 lengths behind the pace by the 2nd fence... question is why? The horses fitness hadnt been tested by the 2nd fence why was he dropped out last from the start?

Probably, still gutted after yesterday, Frankel here we come 7s in doubles the Guineas.

the horse was ill/burst blood vessels.

They are not robots-get over yourself.

You shouldn't post because you expose your lack of knowledge.

Get off the thread idiot you know nothing.

I brought the thread Captain Chris's Festival target to the top for you to read you day tripping clown brendrew.

Was just never going a yard - was very similar to Kauto Stars run in the King George, should have laid him in running after the 2nd fence. Horse had an off day, and burst a blood vessell - not much anyone can do about that

you are completely correct eric imo.

I knew he was sunk as soon as they started.

rupert is always prominent and jockey must have been asleep at start,and i do rate kennedy normally.

any injury was probably sustained by having to cajole and push him the whole way.

Eric-the more you post the more you expose yourself to ridicule.

If kennedy gets jocked off I guess you might have a point the horses connections might have a point.But otherwise you'll have to accept the horse burst a blood vessel.Get over it.

as for Capt Chris-we can all read the press-throw enough mud eventually some of it will stick.

brendrew I am used to taking the forum on and winning with my insight you are chicken feed by comparison ... bye.

imo he will habe broken blood vbessells trying to make the ground up ... the tactical damage was done by then. Can only think it went to the jockeys head on the day it was a massive day for him.

Horse disappointed, end of, jockey thought he had lots under him and was probably riding to orders,and if the ratings are read at face value, and you are perceived to have a stone in hand on most of the field, and you are unlikely to win from the front, cant see any problem with holding him up out the back, tactics ok, horse not.

you'll be telling us Willie Mullins is incompetent next-oh yeah you already have.

i have read enough to form an opinion.

I'll not read any of your posts in the future-clearly nonsense.

Yes please block me idiot.

It could be that he was riding to instructions you are right it seemed unusual the jockey would decide to ride him totally differently to normal, the trainer may have made an almighty horlicks.

plenty of jive turkey getting talked on here. He was prominent at the start and after a slow jump over the first he couldnt keep up. Watch the 11th December run, he's nippy over the first and accelerating away after it. He was lifeless yesterday. Remarkable they only beat him 6 lengths and he burst a blood vessel.

Jockey made no effort to put him in a better position after the first fence, would like to hear what the trainer told him pre race, that will never come out, its impossible to say when the accident happened, it just seemed a very strange way to ride him

Yes well all about opinions but for me the jockey dropped him out early didnt see any attempts to push him up back with the main group over the first few.

no effort...he was being scrubbed along after the 2nd.

I'm watching it now. As they jump the 3rd he is still not being asked by the jockey out the back when the Giant Bolster makes his mistake.

The first only Jessie's Dream jumps behind him,  then his jockey eases him past Rupert still no effort from Kennedy who is now last around 7 lengths behind 1833 the leader. Rupert jumps 2nd fence in last no distress signals the field now well stretched out with Elysian Rock taking the lead around 12 lengths to last, coming to the 3rd still no effort to move Rupert up, the Giant Bolster the only horse behind him makes his first mistake. After the 3rd Rupert well behind no effort to move him up or distress signals the horse going well only Wymott and Bolster behind as they jump the water around 14 lengths back. Jessie's who loves good ground is held up just in front of him. Mikael also being held up around a length ahead, no distress signals from Rupert. Jumps the next open ditch a length down from Jessie's.

Why was he being held up with the hold up horses when he is normally ridden that way?

he is not normally ridden that way.

He should be a decent price at Aintree..

I am probably talking out of my pocket, but I thought exactly the same when they were running. I couldn't believe he was being waited with at the back.

It's clear that he was not well, but they must have known that before the off for them to treat him with kid gloves in the way that they did. I would have prefered to have got my antepost NR money back rather than to have got no run for my money.

Same here why doesnt someone ask the connections maybe he was riding to instructions from the trainer?

So now we see remarks/thread in context -talking through yer pocket.

At last, a new stalker hadnt picked one up this Festival until now, where have you been.

Well at 5am I was in bed rather than typing on here- it looks like you were.Sad.

When you type something that makes sense I'll support you-talking through your pocket,prentending you know something about a horses biology,questioning Willie Mullins competence about tops it and answering your own posts!!!-not a very promising start.

He has a perfect chance of winning only his 2nd Cheltenham Championship in 22 years training today (after Hurricane Fly also this year) when most the other leading contenders are too old, Long Run and Pandorama arent getting the ground they want best. The conditions have been thrown in his horses favour this has to be it surely.

How much do you have on Kempes post your bet up brendrew.

Maybe as I am 5 figures up this Festival, missing 6 by a neck, perhaps getting up at 5am to check conditions/markets might be advisable to you in future.

Now post up your Kempes bet you must be massively confident today. I admit he has a tremendous chance and have covered my bet with him as conditions have fallen completely in his lap and out of others. However Mullins record in Cheltenham Championships compared to the likes of Nicholls and Henderson has been deplorable so is the only negative for the horse.


How much you got on Kempes?

It's time to put your money where your mouth is brendrew post up your bet on Kempes here.

If you dont post your bet up BEFORE the race here then we can only assume you havent backed it because of Mullins deplorable record in the Cheltenham Championship races, and therefore agree with me, as the horse has everything going for it today while others dont.

brendrew's Kempes bet below

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I can't believe that some people think he was deliberately ridden like that.
The horse wasn't travelling at any stage in the race.

He was held up going well from the start, no distress signals, read above commentary or watch the race again. If you are suggesting that the reason they did this was because they knew the horse wasnt right then he shouldnt have been running full stop.

brendrew not so keen when he has to post up his Kempes bet. Suppose he will crawl out from under his stone if it wins but not before.

If you have to rely on the commentary to ascertain whether or not a horse is travelling then i'm afraid you really should be asking your self 'should i be gambling'?

I am not I meant my commentary above. I have analysed the replay many times, have you?

Eric,the horse jumped the first slowly and was never carrying the jockey after that.The last thing Will Kennedy would have wanted to do was to try and bully the horse so early in the race and instead tried to give the horse a chance to get into a rhythm.
That fact the horse was found to have bled explains the run imo as this is exactly the way a horse will run when bleeding,the horse knew there was something wrong with him unfortunately there was no way that the Will Kennedy could have known.

You are completely wrong as what you say does not add up. He was held up at the back have you seen the horse run before he isnt ridden that way. They always find something other than blaming themselves if the tactics were wrong. They were going too slow for him to have bled early it had nothing to do with him being at the back early, most likely it happened when he realised the tactic of holding him up didnt work and tried to make the ground he had given away back up.

You say he wouldnt want to bully him so early in the race yet he did later so the jockey didnt think there was anything wrong with the horse at any stage or he would have pulled him up.

Eric i fear i may be wasting my time talking to you.A horse will often start bleeding in the parade ring!

Watch it again imo as you seem to have read it poorly. I think I can tell when a horse is being held up or not and imo he was which is not how he has been ridden in the past.

wasting your time topfarrier....bloke can't watch a replay properly.

im sticking by rupert . the horse was unwell just like eric .[;)]