Day One Irish Gamble

Agree

zaidpour

Zaidpour been pretty strong on the betfair market the last few days - someone's keen.

zaidpour 2nd fav

Day 2 Gamble So Young..Already into 10/3 SP 5/2 oi oi

will drift after zaidpour, HF and GC get beat day 1

For day 2 Some Target...Willie wants Patrick to have another winner at the festival

If Hurricane Fly fails to beat home Menorah Patrick Mullins is going to college in his speedos..And when Zaidpour runs a great race into 2nd & Hurricane Fly wins while waving 1 hoof to the Cheltenham crowd..The only way So Youngs price will go is shorter..

quevega will surely be backed off the boards may be latter in day

Dunguibs price TIMBER

day 2 irish gamble.what a charm (fred winter)

If Hurricane Fly wins the gamble on Quevega would be epic!!

according to a few reports from preview evenings , quevega seems a different horse this year and not in a good way, hopefully all that is rubbish and she will hack up in the mares ,,, just got a feeling dunguib will be 7/1-8/1 on the day ,, not sure why !!!

Did n't we have same reports about Quevega last year from the preview evenings?

Sandwiched between the Champion Hurdle and the Mares race is the Festival Irish benefit Race, known as the Cross Country, so expect Garde Champetre to get hit by the Irish hard if Hurricane Fly wins.

Dunguib has been nibbled today into 12s

Quevega - last year there wasn't a positive word for it until the morning of the race

reaseheath , ive just read thro tonights reports and they seem keen on here there , and the word from ruby is good about her 2 , these preview evenings are a good night out but you aint got a clue whos feeding you b ollox and whos not ---


TUESDAY SHOULDER RACES
JM: Great Endeavour looks the right type for the Stewart Family Spinal Research Handicap Chase and he could be a Ryanair/Gold Cup horse next year. He has been put away for this. Tullamore Dew and As De Fer are both interesting for small trainers in the Centenary. Ruby Walsh has been waxing lyrical about Quevega recently and it is very hard to oppose her in the Mares Hurdle.
NR: Rare Bob will have a big weight and needs good ground but can go well in the Stewart Family Handicap but Great Endeavour should be favourite. Maljimar has an e/w chance in the cross country and almost won the 3m handicap here two years ago and he can give the Irish something to think about. Quevega should win the mares hurdle.
MS: I suspect Sunnyhillboy will improve for the step up to 3m and run a huge race in the Stewart Family Chase. I like Tullamore Dew in the Centenary who was second in the Coral Cup last season and taken well to chasing. Quevega is a stone better than these and is likely to start at odds-on.
PJ: I’ve been very keen on Sunnyhillboy for the Stewart Family Chase since staying on third to Poquelin over 2m5f, he wants this trip badly, and also think Reve De Sivola is a big e/w player given his track record consistency and this is a race where novices have fared very well recently. It didn’t last long but one firm went 6/1 Garde Champetre non-runner no bet, which struck me as the e/w bet to nothing of meeting paying out of first four. L’Accordioniste can be the one to give Quevega a fright, they think a lot of her.

i think the first big gamble of the witch both sides of the pond will be smashing up we be cue card, bookies might get after it, but can see it going off 6/4

not a hope , cue card will be 3-1 on the day easy.

some fools on here the thing is there is no banker at cheltenham i have being there and every trainer will tell you their  horse will           
win

0 chance of cue card being 3/1 , no point they know itll be backed and can lay it no prob at 2/1

Champion Hurdle - What will go off fav?

2/9 Binocular
9/2 Hurrican Fly
10/1 Menorah
20/1 Dunguib
33/1 Peddlers Cross
100/1 Any other runner

Zaidpour will be well backed due to the better ground/owner.

Expect plenty of people,myslef included, to lump on Bino too.

Zaidpour will go off 2nd fav. No doubt.

look if you fancy h f for the champion hurdle why not lump on at evs to be placed personally i think binocular is the bet 2nd in supreme novices 2 in champion wins champion course form helps ground in his favor well see

Cue Card will hit 3-1 imo because on the day once punters look at the race this will happen.

1. Punters pile into Hendersons runners
2. The Irish pile into theirs
3. Everyone looks at cuecard and wont touch it because of price and connections
4. Every pundit and TV station will roll out the huge stats disadvantage that Cue Card has against it.

3-1 people....

cant have hendersons pair, what exactly have they beaten between them ??? visually very good but then youd expect  cc to win just as easily,, cc comes into the race with the best,strongest pieces of form, hes been thrown in the deep end unlike dunguib last year, cc and tfr are nailed on good things , this is the year when the bankers win , lets hear all them bookies crying this time next week

^ hope so 'cos Dunguib went off at 4/5 last year so that means he was seen as 2.25 times as likely to win as Cue Card.

Fiulin interesting in Imperial Cup tomorrow - some of his form lines tie in with Cue Card, be interesting to see how he gets on.

by the way, what's wrong with it's connections? -  stable was in smart form last time I looked - Mr. Tizzard is a shrewd gentleman - Henderson, Nicholls and Mullins ain't got exclusivity!

Aye. They have already lost two good horse this season too due to injury , Hells Bay and Kilmurry.

they would have had a strong team, not bad for a farmer

I think this is a very valid thread and is very much  relevant. I've been trying to make a book across 5 races today and the markets are absolutely dead with stacks of money stopping any movement. No one is laying, they are just adding to the blue side.

You wait until the day of the market and it will go off on here with cash coming from every angle. There could be a hell of a lot of drifters and plunges because of weight of money rather than a horses chances increasing.

For what its worth I think Cue Card will win. But Im looking at the 3.4 on here now and just think that this is hitting 3-1 without any bother.

The money will come for Hendersons and no doubt him or Barry G will put up a statement about how good Spirit Son is now Barry has picked him. Money for Zaipour will help push CC out and the stats are horrendous for cue card.

Cue Card will be a 7/4 on the day. The offices will shorten him.

Nothing personal against the connections Reese but at the end of the day , this is Cheltenham and punters will go with proven jockeys and trainers.  After last years farce with Dunguib and its jockey I can see a real drift in Cue Card.

well 3 more days and where all find out, 3s to big every panel for most perviews put on this site have said hes the one to beat his course form stands up large will go in again if his at 3s good luck

the worst race for punters but yet everyone wants to back the fav  ill be laying all day and if it looks like hes going to win lay him off the price in running doesnt change v much till 2 out

I'm inclined to agree with TradeFair.

im not sure tbh wallis, i reckon several of them will shorten and all the outsiders will drift. I'd be amazed if CC is above 5/2 let alone 3/1!

its buzzzing on here for a friday night, i wonder why !!!!!

Jos Tizzard has his critics but he is more like Richard Hills on the flat in that he is capable but has more howlers than he should. Last year Dunguib's jockey was a serious liability but he looked so good against the other runners he was entitled to be EVS. Cue Card cannot go off bigger than 7/4 just no chance.

fair enough, Wallis - understand you're reasoning and you could be right.

I respect the stats but think there is too much emphasis on what happened to Dunguib - that has no bearing on Cue Card's chances to me - unless Dunguib's given him a call and told him what a terrible time he had!

Has anyone taken up the Pdy Pwer offer with Cue Card and if so which horse ?

I fancy backing one with PP , and then holding out on Cue Card to see if I can get on that at 3-1. No loss if I dont and it goes and wins.

buzzing ok look he has a great chance but at 9/4 the best bet is each way on something else i think gerathy has chosen wrong just like when mcoy chose binocular over captain cee bee therefore i recommend Sprinter Sacre great chance and will drift

Cue Card each way at 9/4 is the best e/w bet in the race!

I'll back one with PP on the concession - have n't done so yet, like the idea of Recession Proof because he's proved he can cope with a big field and a fast pace - his flat background suggests he should cope with better ground than at Newbury too.

Need to look at the race in more detail - Al Ferof would be another that would possibly interest me if he runs.

cue card each way what kind of fool backs each way at 9/4 your going to lose your money if hes placed clown

so if the irish wont get on cue what about Medermit cant see him getting beat too just keep pulling up the hill!

When it came to Dunguib last year I suspect that because it was an irish horse the money was piled on into singles , doubles , trebles etc and was probably the corner stone of many an acca. I dont think Cue Card has the same appeal.

No it was a horse that looked an absolute certainty. It had nothing to do with being Irish or acca etc.

You must remember Cue Card Supreme price has not been moved because of other factors:

- He has not seen a racecourse since Dec 11th
- He was being touted for the Champion Hurdle until recently

Had he had a nice run against a half decent novice field like Dunguib did last February than I am certain he would be very close to EVS.

I agree TF , he would be nearer evens with a run. But it begs the question why is he near 3.4 ?  If a recent run is the only issue then its an amazing price in my mind. I think its this big because layers are out to get it and will continue to do so.

and on Duiguib , come on , every irishman at the festival punted this on day one. It was a huge talking horse going into the festival. That isnt the case with CC.

The Irish i met walking to the course were all punting Dunguib, I said that i had backed Fiulin, they laughed.............and they were right on that one though, finished 6/7th @ 100/1.

^ you'll have the last laugh when he wins the Imperial Cup today though

at least yours wasnt beat at 4-5 :)

I like Hidden Universe with the PP offer and will wait on cue card.

FFT - on Old Way and Ultimate both e/w.

But it begs the question why is he near 3.4

The markets are a bit dead now. Calm before the storm. Wait until Tuesday morning and we will see how much these layers are willing to go to town on a horse that looks a good thing on paper.

Cue Card will go off at 3's!? Haha, what a complete load of nonsense!

Trust me, odds compilers do not want to lay Cue Card, I know they don't! His EP will be 15/8, possibly 7/4, and id be surprised if he goes off bigger than 6/4!

If Cue Card wins impressively, expect Menorah's price to nose dive! I suspect Pricewise will put him up too.

Hurricane Fly will drift, any bookmaker worth his salt will be desperate to take the unknown on; id expect support for Peddlers Cross and Dunguib in that race!

HURRICANE will be a monster gamble for the irish .
they dont give a toss about the unproven

if willie runs so young in the supreme  then forget ziadpour  the irish will smash into it

So young wont run in the Supreme, they just shaking the markets up a little bit until the horses have traveled over, once there over here and reports are fine thats when the stable staff and rest of the clued up irish get stuck in.

Cue Card will go off at 3's!? Haha, what a complete load of nonsense!  - shrood !

3-1 in the morning as predicted. What a price.

Cue Card class. 3 horse race. Spirit Sons jumping is impressive. Watch it on sporting life videos for free. Magens Star is the other. Sprinter Sacre will be a great chaser and one to follow next year

One of the other posters suggested Cue card ew at 5-2 , well that looks a great bet now if its 3-1 in the morning and 1/4 odds first 3.

same stunt as last year lads & williams been so short on cue hope people get it wont last long, shops only i take it

even money bets of 100 will be 70 at 3s the rest at 9/4!!