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Boys can we have this as the official Gold Cup Thread. Plenty of great threads about the different runners in the gold cup and the different trainers, however some of them get lost within these pages due to all the other races at Cheltenham.
You know my bet £400ew on tidal bay at 33/1 n/r no bet.
Think it will run on and for me the top 4 all have question marks against them.
Good luck to all involved in the race.
You know my bet £400ew on tidal bay at 33/1 n/r no bet.
Think it will run on and for me the top 4 all have question marks against them.
Good luck to all involved in the race.
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Imperial Commander for back to backs for me. 4/1 a fair price which I've taken but wouldn't be a shock if a young'un at 25/1 wins this year.
I can't believe people are milking themselves over Long Run. The only thing people keep pointing to regarding his credentials are his King George win when the race has to be the poorest renewal in years.
Nacarat is a very good yardstick when it comes to Kempton. A 100%, fully fit Nacarat finished 41 lengths behind Kauto Star in last season's King George. He confirmed his well being (and liking for Kempton) by finishing a close second to Razor Royale in the Racing Post Chase and a distance ahead of third place.
Nacarat, to my eye, has regressed slightly this season and in this year's King George he finished only 5 lengths behind Kauto Star. So the only explanation to me is that Kauto Star has dramatically deteriorated which is not inconceivable considering he's an 11 year old French bred (it had to happen sometime). Riverside Thearte would not finish 12 lengths in front of Kauto Star unless the later had gone significantly backwards. Even Albertas Run came out of the race with NTD saying the horse had serious problems.
So what i'm getting to is that this King George victory that has put Long Run into favouritism is worth nothing as far as being a serious Gold Cup contender has got to do with it. Long run has proved he relishes the flat track of Kempton and has also proved that the undulations of Cheltenham bring out the worst in him. He jumps poorly there and as people have already stated by the time the hill comes around he doesn't have enough left to power up it.
For me Long Run is a big place lay for the Gold Cup.
For what it's worth i'd still rate Imperial Commander far ahead of his challengers.
Nacarat is a very good yardstick when it comes to Kempton. A 100%, fully fit Nacarat finished 41 lengths behind Kauto Star in last season's King George. He confirmed his well being (and liking for Kempton) by finishing a close second to Razor Royale in the Racing Post Chase and a distance ahead of third place.
Nacarat, to my eye, has regressed slightly this season and in this year's King George he finished only 5 lengths behind Kauto Star. So the only explanation to me is that Kauto Star has dramatically deteriorated which is not inconceivable considering he's an 11 year old French bred (it had to happen sometime). Riverside Thearte would not finish 12 lengths in front of Kauto Star unless the later had gone significantly backwards. Even Albertas Run came out of the race with NTD saying the horse had serious problems.
So what i'm getting to is that this King George victory that has put Long Run into favouritism is worth nothing as far as being a serious Gold Cup contender has got to do with it. Long run has proved he relishes the flat track of Kempton and has also proved that the undulations of Cheltenham bring out the worst in him. He jumps poorly there and as people have already stated by the time the hill comes around he doesn't have enough left to power up it.
For me Long Run is a big place lay for the Gold Cup.
For what it's worth i'd still rate Imperial Commander far ahead of his challengers.
my e/w fancy is what a friend if the ground is genuinely good,ftb may also do the trick 
*Even Albertas Run came out of the race with Jonjo saying the horse had serious problems.
Be interesting to see how many runners we end up with on the day. Someone posted a good thread about us likely having 10-12 runners in the end due to probale withdrawls due to the ground or other horses going to different races.
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