Grand Crus - 9-4.

He destroyed the same horses BB regualrly destroys in much the same fashion. IMO he is a massive threat to BB.

ABSOLUTE MONSTERS both beasts, what a race in prospect.

agree nightwalker,but BB is still going to fvck him up

Not a betting proposition for me, will not get rich backing either.

Race to watch full stop unless you on GC at big odds then lay a bit of - simply

True,already backed GC for next years RSA and to win a gold cup in the next 3 years,goes chasing next year and could go right to the top

Who gave u a price for next years RSA?? Wat price u get?

big bucks is agift from theGods at that price . get on

Imp commander will also win

Ballydoyle,

I think your talking absolute rubbish to be honest.Big Bucks is the lay of the meet along with Ruby to be top jock.Grands Crus is a "wonder horse" he beat the horses big bucks beat more conviningly than Big Bucks could only dream of and hard held to boot. The second  has since franked the form off top weight and Bensalem also ran a good race to be second to Cross Kennon in the mud at Haydock.6 year olds have a fantastic record in the World Hurdle, he has course and distance form and even Paul Nicholls yesterday said he thought one day a horse would arrive to be able to beat big bucks and Grands Crus is the one.At 9/4 he is by far the bet of the meeting. An absolute Banker

if he is an An absolute Banker then why are you wasting time writing on here an not spending every second remortgaging your house and getting bank loans to lump on? BB wins easy

well i've had a grand on at 11/4 and layed Big Bucks for a monkey at evens. i'm happy to win 3500 on one race, no need to be greedy

just a grand on an absolute banker? hardly money talking is it,good luck to you tho

we can't all be as rich as you formman can we

can if you truely believe you have found an absolute banker

ramraid44

I have to agree with you, this is a serious horse with gears the jockey could be looking around cantering turning in

As Powerful as Big Bucks has been, he has not beaten anything of note throughout his career. His rivals have been a disappointing bunch to be honest. There has been nothing in the Inglis Drever mould to give BB a race, until now, with Grand Crus.

beware.. money tree has made grand crus his banker lay of cheltenham... watch it win by 10 lengths

good luck all!

money tree laying it is a worry...!!dave duggan said grand crus wont stay the distance in the stayers...hes a very shrewd judge..ive bb backed and 11/10 is a gift..mourad the main danger to me..but only a small one..!!

until the Buckster is beaten im not laying him. Grands Crus best competitor since bucks has been around though

i cant have mourad with anyones whats he achived in comparison with bb

Grand Crus is not close to being compared to Inglis Drever yet.

This reminds me of when Iris's Gift took on Baracouda for the first time. The price was better because the Irish were backing Limestone Lad and there were 2 ahead of Iris's in the betting at the time. It just feels so similar to me and the outcome could easily be the same....

Grand Crus goes down in an epic battle this year and then improves as a 7 year old to turn the tables.

11/10 Big Bucks! Thanks very much.

I would not rate Duggan as a judge but that is just my opinion.

However how has he concluded that Grand Crus will not stay the 3m in the stayers?

i dont know to be honest...i missed the part where he said why he didnt think he would stay..he was interviewed on atr...it might be repeated..

"An absolute banker."?? Utter drivel. You wouldn't fear Big Bucks no? Won his last 10 I believe?

World Hurdle Stats :

9/10 had already ran at the festival
9/10 had 8 or more runs over hurdles

This thing is poor poor value at 9-4

its because he pulled like a train on a couple of races this season,DD said that he would not be able to finish the race at chelt if he did that against BB

as did AP McCoy i think. Piss poor bet at 9-4

looks a coin toss between bb and gc . 9/4 about any coin toss decent value to be fair. form of his earlier runs this season holding up very well  . very impressive lto and improving at a rate of knots.bb will have to be beaten at some stage and this fellow looks the best to have taken him on so far.

Mourad has been doing it well this season also and in my opinion, would be able to take care of Knockara Beau in a Cleeve Hurdle. Very tasty ew bet at 9-2 without Big Buck....

how many grade 1s has grand crus won please??
some absolute mugs on here,there really is,
grand crus is a absolute certainty according to many shroodies having never won a grade 1 in his life and up against a multiple grade 1 winner and double world hurdle winner,you couldnt make it up

I think Mourad is a cracker of a bet, 10/1 nrnb with laddies, can't see it not being in the first 3, if you look at it's 3rd in the triumph stayed on very well up the hill,impressive in what it's done this season, only 6yo, still improving

have to agree with evra here and kalinic above. Personally I've had Mourad ew at 6s without Big Bucks for a few months and see it as a 2-1 shot at worst.

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