Cheltenham Festival
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19 Feb 11
08:14
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....common fella, do the biz and keep my dream alive!!
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Good luck with it but don't think his form really stands up plus I'm still not that sure about the form of the stable who had the favourite for the Tote Gold Trophy run badly yesterday. If he wins well today then he's got an obvious chance but got a bit to find I guess.
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Just because WAlkon bounced,how can you say you query the form of the stable ??Mille chief might get beat(I don't think he will).bit it will be sod all to do with the form of the stable....
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Because I don't think they're all running well. They had a novice hurdler, Bless The Wings, travel really well then find nothing at the same course yesterday and haven't exactly been doing well at the top level for a couple of seasons to be fair. I alsoo think they may over rate their horses.
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Too much is made of the problems within the Alan King yard...he needs to stop making excuses and admit he's just not a very good trainer.
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I think you may be right.
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trainer has really hyped up this horse,about time he lived up to that.A good victory today would certainly help.
Not for me though,and his CH price is madness!! |
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Good luck mate this is Kings classiest horse but I quite fancy Overturn today.
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Overturn isnt going to like this ground, Mille Chief will love it and has Silviniaco to beat.
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Buddeliea, all about opinion. The price that you state as being madness will look superb if the Chief beats these comfortably. I think it will, and I'm certainly hoping it does, to keep my hopes alive. If it doesn't win or is all out to do so then my CH dreams will become a nightmare.
Should the Chief win this very comfortably today then it really should be entitled to be single figures for the CH. As far as value goes, surely Mille Chief can't be bad value as it is far bigger than the very slow Peddlars Cross. |
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very slow
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Bit short on trip for Silviniaco, Overturn not as good on the ground which Mille Chief will love, everything set up for him here if he cant win under these conditions he isnt a Champion Hurdle horse imo.
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Brownes,
i said the price was madness before todays race,i will give you my opinion on his price after todays race after he has run,later. |
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Bud....if he wins comfortably, 8-1..........all out, 14-1.............loses, any price you want..................laps them, 1-2!!
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My reference to the 'very slow' Peddlars is a little unfair. Admirable horse but wouldn't be in the same parish as a Champion Hurdler; of course, time will tell.
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time will tell indeed,but we do know he aint slow.
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beating a speedster like starluck on a flat track tells us that
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So on that basis are you telling me that Mr Thriller is quick?
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no chance in the ch im afraid
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It depends which way you look at it really. It bet two other hopefuls out of sight. Travelled kindly too. However, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed that it didn't pick up better than that. Also, at least it was a proper race unlike the pointless events winning at 1-7 etc.
20-1 shot for me now though. |
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I was pretty spot on with my 'all out 14/1 quote'. I am disappointed but it has demonstrated that it will at least be in there pitching.
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how can bookies leave his price unchanged after that lack lustre effort?
incredible!! |
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Couldn't see that realistically in at the finish of the big one but remember Punjabi getting stuffed in the race when I'd already backed it for the Champion.
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Had a hard race there, may do a Walkon in the Champion? You could fancy him to trouble the front 4 really. Silviniaco and Overturn hated the ground there.
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You could not fancy him to trouble the front 4.
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Dunguib looked slow today imo.
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stick a 0 on the end of that Brownes
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Dunguib looked slow??
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Bud, there so want to be laying it til the cows come home as you can still lay at 14s. I hope they do a match bet on the day with Mille and Peddlars....that is one race I'm convinced Mille will win.
Still in there with a shout mind but I have greened up as I was disappointed. |
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Yes he didnt pull away from a mediocre opponent for pressure and he likes that ground. You could say that for Mille Chief also.
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Think i'll be waiting until 5 mins after the Supreme to have a bet in the race this year
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just having a laugh with you mate.
i dont lay horses,just an old fashoioned backer,but i expect you will get a few that will help you out. |
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Dont know if it was all just the ground with Overturn, it was hardly good at Kempton when he raced against Binocular, could be a problem with the Barn
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Do they need to get workmen in?
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Better to have a look at the old pipes ybm !!!!
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Luska Lad is a better horse around Gowran than anywhere else and is a real mudlark, thats the best I've seen Dunguib jump and the performance is better than it looks.
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Luska Lad looked like Solwhit without gears (and he doesnt have any).
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Mille Chief is 4lb worse than Celestial Halo on today's eveidence so that rules him out of the CH. Silviniano Conti hardly advertised Menorah's form either. Looks like Binocular against Peddlers Cross to me.
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Oscar Whisky certainly beat Celestial Halo a darn sight easier getting 4lb. Different trip of course but that run looks more solid now and he stands out to me as the value in the Champion.
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Sageform, is that the Binocular that beat Overturn by 20 lengths less than Mille Chief or the Peddlers Cross that is 2 length better than Duke of Lucca?
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