Wise price Arkle

I'll have to read what he says, but PH said on RUK after Wishfull Thinking won at Chelt, that CC likely needs further than 2 miles and may not run in the Arkle. In any case he is surely overrated. All this Ghizao form is very very suspect imo.

Totally agree. This is one of the worse tips I've seen from him. I haven't seen the paper. What reasons does he give for this?

Shoking tipstering imo.

If you wanted to put up a wild one surely Stagecoach Pearl was worth a poke.

Sorry guys think you are way off target. This horse has a great chance on good ground at the festival.Highly rated by hobbs. If he runs will be in first 3 no doubt.16s is pretty good value for me.

"Highly rated by Hobbs".

That is exactly the horse has been continuously underpriced.

Just because PH though he was his Arkle horse last April, everything he has done on the track has been excused.

Slow boat and not good enough. Got 10lb and a thrashing at Newbury.

Must be a fair price to run in the Arkle.  Golden Miller, Mildmay, Grand Annual all more likely targets imo.

W1sepr1ce the plagiarising g1t 


By: This user is online. eric_morris
When: 27 Nov 10 09:52

Captain Chris is the horse I rate 2nd best for the Arkle at this stage and you wont see a better Arkle trial than the Cheletenham race all season imo. Ghizao loves Good to Soft which is what he will get on Cheltenham tuesday. Has all the credentials and Ruby is a great judge, if he mentions the Stewart/Johnson horse as a potential Well Chief and based on what I have seen that is good enough for me.

I am expecting another development on the Arkle front however from another horse who will be a big player imo.


By: This user is online. eric_morris
When: 29 Dec 10 12:58

Still think Captain Chris has a major chance in the Arkle on quicker ground he has run extremely well and Cheltenham March ground is what he needs imo.


By: This user is online. eric_morris
When: 30 Dec 10 00:13

Captain Chris will improve an awful lot on good ground he needs especially over the stiff Chelts track.


By: This user is online. eric_morris
When: 03 Jan 11 01:17

Hurdles and fencing form are totally different. Captain Chris has made ground each race at the close to take second he needs faster ground to travel on when we will see his energies preserved for later in the race when that strong finish can be delivered from closer to the lead ... he could win the Arkle on faster ground imo. Ghizao all going well is the horse to catch he jumps and travels beautifully in a race and has an excellent kick. His breathing operation recently seems to have helped him an awful lot and similarly Captain Chris think it can only help him at Cheltenham when the pace is on from start to finish in the Arkle. Finian's Rainbow will cruise around and we will see how his kick compares to the other 2 as they will all be ridden from 2 out up the hill to try and get on top. Fascinating race coming up and 2nd only to the Champion Hurdle for excitement for me.


By: This user is online. eric_morris
When: 05 Dec 10 13:14

Noble Prince looks an ideal candidate for the new 2m 4f chase he seems to lack that bit of toe when it matters for an Arkle horse. He has run well over 3m over hurdles and seems to have a preference for slower ground. None of these good signs for an Arkle imo.

Captain Chris who was mentioned in the first post on this thread ran v well in the hottest Arkle trial so far for me. He will improve a lot for better ground and that first outing over fences where we already know he jumps well. A strong run Arkle on faster ground will suit him down to the ground where he will travel better and forge on strongly to the line. The first day at the Festival is good/soft but a bit quicker than the Cheltenham trial which will make things interesting between him and Ghizao, who also likes good/soft come March.

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He's won at Cheltenham before over hurdles in a decent race and excellent 2nd on ground he doesnt favour over fences. Think course suits him.

Good god Johnson got Captain Chris all over the shop in behind there. A more prominent ride like Medermit and he'd have won. Medermit lacks finishing pace, this is his trip nearly caught by Captain Chris when given a head start from a poor ride.

With a half as good ride there CChris would have won that comfortably he has a kick for an Arkle, Medermit travels but doesnt have that kick needed to win at 2 miles in top class. Pretty sure connections will choose the wrong race with Medermit, King interviewed by Alice said he knew where he was going but wouldnt tell her.

Not on better ground, Captain Chris was the best horse in the race today, hindered by a terrible ride and showing the best kick in the race despite this to nearly get up. Medermit just doesnt have that kick amongst the best at 2 miles. Hobbs must be annoyed with the ride Johnson gave CChris there.

If you think Medermit had better finishing pace than Captain Chris there you were either watching a different race or have your bet goggles on.

Not bet Medermit yet as I had a double at the start of the season with him and Go Native so don't want to blow any more cash antepost whilst he still has the option of the Jewson!

Over 2 miles, CC has looked a right plodder imo, that was his stamina kicking in at the end and Medermit was idling/tired.

Over two miles, Medermit would be well clear of CC which puts him on a similar footing as Ghizao.

There is nothing in the Arkle this year which would have been able to mix it with the Champion Hurdlers as Medermit did last year and now he has got his jumping together I cannot see him out of the frame.

captain chris doesnt jump well enough to be considered for the arkle at all..yogi bresner required if they want him to excel over fences.

i'd agree with eric that he could have won today with a better ride but with his jumping he couldnt maintain a position unlike medermit who jumped great throughout which won him the race as he was running on empty at the death..2m4f the best option for cc if they want him to have any chance of placing at the festival

medermit will be involved in the finish in the arkle,could make for interesting debate regarding the closeness of cc to medermit in relation to ghizao you do have to consider the course/ground/distance and of course the recent throat op when cc and ghizao last met and the same with hells bay and finians rainbow...whatever the outcome day 1 of the festival is looking red hot

also think reve de sivola needs to go back to hurdles as doesnt seem to enjoy chasing at all imo

Agreed , dossed a bit in front , CC may win an Arkle on a stiff right handed track , but even then he still has to jump round , going left-handed at pace , sorry .

Aintree was still left handed last time I looked.

Why Uncle ?
He's not going to win anything left handed jumping right.If it's that noticeable on a right handed track it's a serious problem.

He will have a penalty.