Time for Rupert GC value?

I can see the angle your coming from. Eric Morris will probably go into a meltdown if he does go for the gold cup and will probably accuse you of having an agenda for even raising the topic steeple

i think this means there is value inthe RSA market as anything u back now will shorten by a hell of a lot if he runs well/wins the argento and looks like a gold cup contender and if he doesnt go gold cup then u still have a nice price on a horse/horses in the RSA

Steeple what else do you think will head for that trial?

Poss The Midnightclub, Pride Of Dulcote, Caruthers?

By the way I have found the perfect venue for the Preview Night will email you this week regarding it.

is the 16s with laddies?sensible bet coz if he doesnt win or go close in the argento then he,l revert to rsa.

pride of dulcote is heading for irish hennessy weekend after

Yes, 16 with laddies.  abbott - that's good news mate.  Don't know what else will go for Argento but according to TFR trainer, he goes there unless it's abandoned.  Things might get a bit scary for him if Bobby D decides to send IC there.  I'd expect Pride of Dulcote to run but we will see.

My only worry with your bet would be if a below par field turn up. He beats them and is still available at a bigger price.
From memory weve not had a top class winner for a number of years, maybe exotic dancer?

didnt joe lively win it?

Quality of last three winners might be questionable but overall, pretty sound trial:

1997    One Man    9    Richard Dunwoody    Gordon W. Richards
1998    See More Business    8    Timmy Murphy    Paul Nicholls
1999    Cyfor Malta    6    Tony McCoy    Martin Pipe
2000    Looks Like Trouble    8    Norman Williamson    Noel Chance
2001    See More Business    11    Mick Fitzgerald    Paul Nicholls
2002    Rince Ri    9    Ruby Walsh    Ted Walsh
2003    Behrajan    8    Richard Johnson    Henry Daly
2004    Jair du Cochet    7    Jacques Ricou    Guillaume Macaire
2005    Grey Abbey    11    Graham Lee    Howard Johnson
2006    See You Sometime [1]    11    Andrew Thornton    Seamus Mullins
2007    Exotic Dancer    7    Tony McCoy    Jonjo O'Neill
2008    Knowhere    10    Paddy Brennan    Nigel Twiston-Davies
2009    Joe Lively    10    Joe Tizzard    Colin Tizzard
2010    Taranis

Thats kind of what I mean ftm. He was a cracking horse but never a gold cup candidate.

No doubting the quality of Taranis on his day imv

he would have beaten nortons coin....but i agree .perhaps its too close to gc.only gives them 4weeks with no room for error,injury etc.id be shocked if ic didnt go straight for gold cup now

If I wasn't convinced he will win the RSA Chase by multiple lengths I would agree; connections would be foolish to miss out on a wedge of prize money when they could just run him in the Gold Cup next year, which will be minus Denman; a horse im sure novice chasers should avoid!

Steeple just emailed you.

what price TFR for GC if he wins a weak Pillar??
not convinced it will be that much difference to what it is now,or would be on the day.
Fair way behind the big boys,and winning a weak Pillar chase would not get me rushing to back him to beat the likes of IC and Denman.

Are they seriously considering this? RSA looks rotten and he's a stand out performer

Only defo runner i can think of is Tidal Bay
IC defo goes straight to Gold Cup

what price will he go off in the pillar do you think boys?

no midea till i see the opposition

Taranis again?
Punchestowns a possible?

Or Pride Of Dulcote

TFR
Tidal Bay
Taranis
Carruthers

id expect them to run
any others confirmed?

Stays, has class, is young, jumps superbly (touch wood) 3 from 5 at Cheltenham (2nd to Big Buck's and Tidal Bay in other two). Denman and KS 11 years old (49 years back to last 11-y-o winner).  IC is 10 just two 10-y-o winners since 1990.

I'm not saying he'll win or even run, just that the bet appeals.

What about Midnight Chase?
Weird Al any news?
Neptune Collognes

Aah Tidal,the ol rogue himself,one of my fav hoeses though,just love the way he just does what he likes!!

Punchestowns goes for AON (tho is entered at Haydock saturday)
Pride of Dulcote Irish Hennessy.

I can see NTD running Ollie Magern and Henderson Barbers Shop

cheers stormey

Midnight Chase wont run til Festival trainer says

weird al had breathing op so a case of how quickly they can get it back fit to race. sounds like neptune collonges is being targeted at grand national. midnight chase going straight to festival. willbe interesting to see pride of dulcote against pandorama (think latter will win on soft) in irish hennessy, and what a friend against punchestowns in the AON. starting to heat up alot :D

So it's a match between Tidal Bay and Time For Rupert again then? ffs

FFT-Strangely i think even the weights are the same as last years Cleeve!!
TFR 11 4
TB  11 0

Think itl be a diff result tho!!

Aye ;)

TFR would still have to absolutely muller whatever field he's up against to be considered for the Gold Cup imo

Well im spuds deep on TFR for the RSA at prices from 12s to 6s and to be honest id sooner he wasnt running in this as a win is only gonna increase the pressure to go for Gold

lay it off at 3s/4s stormey1?

I wasn't overly keen on Time For Rupert for the RSA to begin with, probably because of how keen I was on the previous year's Stayers Hurdle runner up

Been proven utterly wrong with him so far. The RSA is his to lose imv

Paul4-not my style to lay off.suits some and not others im in the latter camp

i still like wymott, and think the minack could be something special tbh

stormey1 im not a layer, i only bet small stakes so just lay off to get my stake back to put on something else :) good luck anyway, im not the biggest time for rupert fan (i rate it, just dont love it) but if it wins then would be deservedly

Stormey,if Tidal decides to put in a performance he will win against TFR over hurdles every time,fences not so sure though,but i would wager his engine is as good as anyones,his attitude to the game however unfortunately is not.

Cheers Paul4.to be honest i dont bet much on here mainly deal with regular firms.
As for TFR deep down i think theyl use common sense and go for RSA.
His chance is an obvious 1. Rated 166 over hurdles,loves the track,taken really well to fences,form looks strong.
If he turns up in March and runs his race will take a good 1 to beat him imo.

i used to, but now figure i may aswel take double the odds or use half the stake (although will cclearly regret that choice when i have 2nds and 2rds at the festival) didnt work out u cud lay with forecast profit until last week (thought u had 2 make new bet laying and wudnt have had enough) which has meant i've wasted a chance to lay as most have come in loads from the prices i took. a lesson learned for next year i guess :(