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No worries dude, just snapped.
I know it's you don't rate Solwhit. |
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For what its worth i feel Solwhit is going there with big chance, and if ground livelier than normal just might help him getting the distance.
Can see him cruising coming down the hill and one thing for sure he very tough and 100% genuine.Trainer knows better than us and fact he going for WH rather than wait for Aintree speaks volumes. Serious chance of winning not just place money i feel |
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^ I quite agree. For what it's worth, I feel he will probably get the trip (although admittedly it's not the best year to try to 'get home' with BB and GC sure to pour it on from some way out). Don't forget Mysilv nearly won a Stayers' two days after running in a Champion Hurdle, and although she was a lovely horse, she was no world-beater. So I wouldn't let the two to three-mile step-up put me off him. His battling qualities are exactly what you'd want in a horse that might potentially be pushed to the limit.
Well worth a few quid I feel - especially at 18-1. |
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Tomdeane, I think Mysilv was a significantly better horse than Solwhit. I sometimes think that people think that because a horse doesn't have the toe for the championship races over 2 miles that it automatically means it'll get the longer trip; I think the more common reason is that they are just not that good. I'd like to say I wish you luck but I'll be place laying it so I'll refrain this time!!
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^ Of course you may be right about the stamina - and I do agree with you that it is a common misperception that those done for toe want to be going further.
But, in fairness to Solwhit, he has looked to me like he wants two and a half miles for a long time (he did after all win the Aintree Hurdle a fair while ago in the style of a horse that wanted every yard of the trip). I think he has at least fair prospects of staying the three miles at Cheltenham. I'm very surprised that you think Mysilv was a far better horse - she only ever won twice at the highest level and that was as a juvenile. I doubt very much that she would have fared any better than Solwhit has against Hurricane Fly. Just feel people are very quick to ridicule the Irish form because it doesn't leap off the page at you. But there can be no denying it takes a fair horse to have won six Grade Ones at the age of 7, as well as finishing runner-up in a further four. He's a pretty useful tool, this lad. |
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yes....we aren't talking about a massive leap of faith here as we already know the horse gets 2 and a half well.
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It's the ground that sways people (in UK) off Irish form.
Every race is run in hock deep ground which as we all know is unheard of at Cheltenham these days |
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I love how English don't rate our form, we win loads of races at Cheltenham and usually we can get to have nice juicy antepost odds even after after a couple of runs. While in England, if a horse wins a race at any of the big meetings in Nov or Dec is by by value.
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Is Dancing Tornado coming over again, i nearly chopped it off on the lad in the PP at 50-1
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i wouldn't worry too much about the lack of faith people have in irish horses.....back in october plenty over here thought that loosen my load was an arkle horse....the fact that no other half decent novice had even sniffed a fence yet made no difference.
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Tomdeane, fair enough. Looking at its form going a fair way back, together with its running style do give it a chance of getting the trip. My comments re Mysilv were we really based on its festival record; a smart win in the Triumph followed by a 5th and 6th in the Champion and a 2nd in the stayers......a pretty sound record really bettered by very few.
I'll now wish you every success with this one and i'll now look elsewhere for my place lay. |
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cv you win about 6-7 out of 40
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CV is right.
Irish Grade 1's are open to English horses too, that they usually choose no to run in them is their choice, if they wanted to take on the Irish horses we'd have a better idea now. Hurricane Fly has earned approx £300k this season to Binoculars approx £50k. Doesn't prove which is the better horse of course but I know which one I'd rather own this season. Howdi: We'll say that makes it 15%, what % of runners are Irish? They're already at a disadvantage having to travel to get there. |
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Compared to the number of runners we have we so very well. Especially in the grade 1 races, even last year when we didn't do too well we won 4 of them, the year before we had 5. All this is a time when we have no Inca, Hardy, Kicking King, war of attrition.
We win plenty of the big races, the races we spend plenty of time discussing on here. |