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Albion Dan
18 Dec 10 17:40
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Does anyone have any news on this one? I can't understand why he is such a big price. Sent off favourite last year before getting injured and not running his race, and now he is nearly 40s.
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Report Mr Eboue December 18, 2010 6:08 PM GMT
Had his chance last year surely.

No way could he live with the likes of Hurricane fly and menorah.
Report aka December 18, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
I wonder if the injury problem may have been a bit more serious than we thought at the time, Albion. Might have expected to see him in the Christmas Hurdle at Kempton if the recovery had been as timely as the original estimates from the stable indicated in the update issued during the summer.
Report Albion Dan December 18, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
Dont see how you can say he had his chance last year, he is still only 7.  yes aka, i was wondering if he maybe wasnt over the injury, surely people's memories arent that short to have completely forgotten about him.  Also would be a massive market over reaction to have him that big just based on some of the other contender's performances we have seen so far imo.  If he came out and won a trial race he'd be single figures.
Report duffy December 19, 2010 12:27 AM GMT
albion
i think maybe the problem isn't that peoples memories are that short that they've forgotten about him....it's actually because their memories are actually long....as they can recall hurricane fly making absolute mincemeat of him twice....although i'll concede he may have progressed since then.he is a big price though....and there's no guarantee that the fly isn't going to break a nail or something Grinbetween no and march.
Report Can't Catch Me December 19, 2010 11:24 AM GMT
I also didsagree he had his chance last season. Had been on the go all season and also made a very bad error early on in the race.

Meade has aslo stated he was going to campaign him differently as he felt he had him at his peak in the first half of last season, and wants to make it the esecond half this time around.

I think he is one of the best value bets of the meeting.
Report Waterwheel Inc. December 19, 2010 12:21 PM GMT
It's certainly not fair to write him off saying he had his chance last year. Besides the fact he was never in the race after blundering the second, if I remember correctly the record of Supreme Novices winners in the CH next season is awful. Warning both not to write off Go Native or get carried away with Menorah.

Last I read of him he was going to be reappearing in either the Christmas Hurdle at Kempton, or more likely, as he wasn't expected to be ready for that, the Irish Champion. So I see no reason to worry yet if you've backed him at the 25/1+ that's been on offer for a while.
Report R Carver December 19, 2010 12:31 PM GMT
ON all known form, all things being equal, i dont believe he can win - i say that discounting his run in the rac last yr which shouyld be forgotten because he got injured. Not sure how he can reverse the form with HF. That said, I think Meade's plan of campaign this yr is very sensible (lighter and later).
Report Albion Dan December 19, 2010 1:38 PM GMT
CCM I was going to mention Meade's plan for his campaign for last year. Despite the obvious regard he holds GN in, he had to get him ready for the early season trials to see if he had a genuine contender. This year will all be geared around March. 

HF is clearly a very good horse, but not much of an antepost proposition, and of those at the top of the market I am very keen on Bino, but my point is just that Go Native should not be nearly 40/1. Even half those odds would still be very very generous imo, unless he has met with a setback obviously.
Report Stake & Chips December 20, 2010 8:43 AM GMT
I assume that he is out for the season looking at the market?
Report Stake & Chips December 20, 2010 8:45 AM GMT
Go Native ruled out for entire season by Meade
By Jessica Lamb 7:01AM 20 DEC 2010

LAST year's Fighting Fifth and Christmas Hurdle winner Go Native will not contest the Stan James Champion Hurdle in March, having been ruled out of action for the entire season by trainer Noel Meade.

The seven-year-old, who was as short as 14-1 with Coral for the Champion Hurdle - for which the sponsor quotes 25-1 - was injured when making a mistake at the second hurdle in last season's renewal and has not run since.



Meade had not intended to train him for the first half of the season, with a return in January at Leopardstown for the BHP Insurances Irish Champion Hurdle suggested, and reported his vets "100 per cent happy with him" in October.

Meade told the Racing Post: "He came back into work, but we weren't happy with him and decided not to continue. He will hopefully be back next year when the plan will be the Champion Hurdle again."

Sad
Report Blocker December 20, 2010 8:56 AM GMT
Aggggggghhhhhhhhhh.

****
Report Can't Catch Me December 20, 2010 1:09 PM GMT
B0llocks Sad
Report aka December 20, 2010 1:20 PM GMT
That is a shame. Let's hope a longer lay off will see the horse right and firing again at top level next season.
Report Albion Dan December 20, 2010 2:16 PM GMT
Sad that explains it. Wonder how long they knew.  Ah well, makes Bino's task easier.
Report aka December 20, 2010 2:52 PM GMT
Probably hard to tell how well he had recovered until they started some work with him. A vet's examination alone would be insufficient. I did hear over the summer that the injury had been a bit more serious than originally thought, so wondered if that was behind the decision reported in October to delay his return as much as it being the case of wanting to have a lighter and later campaign for him this season.

Great shame that so many very promising hurdlers in recent seasons have not been able to show exactly what they can do in the CH through injury - Go Native, Sizing Europe, Fethard Lady, Lingo, Detroit City (possibly not right on the day in the CH), Hurricane Fly last season, Iktitaf who fell when in contention in the 2007 CH and died the following season from an unrelated problem. I hope we don't lose any more from the top of the market this time.
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