Speed the Moriarity is run would be about the same as the RSA, and we know Quel stays so no fact finding needed there.

ive been harping on aboout Flat Out for the last three days here,his workhas been the best ive seen looks likely to peakin perfect time for Chelltenhamhave a decent cut at 10s ew for the Irish Arkle and have backed him heavily for the Arkle down to 14s,Hills still giving 14s will be 8s after the wweeekend

He was never 10's. Well done for telling a porky.

I know sint, I've the horse backed ap for both the Arkle and Irish Arkle.

This louse69 seems to be wanting people to think he's got inside knowledge about mullins stable, but he talks too much and only joined betair in may.

Also PP offered 12s before Christmas, so please check your stats before accusing people on here. Thanks

Ill say one more thing take the 14son Flat Out in Hills now

The odds that it opened you clown.How stupid are you? You come on here abusing me over opening prices when you obviously didnt look at the Irish Arkle when it opened, the prices came out during Leopardstown Christmas festival

I agree Sintonian with what you are saying but the feel the lads had on this could'nt of been stronger.10s they said was extreme value even without seeing himon track advantage of working there before. I have a flat tip that i wwillpost in the coming weeks so that this wont happen again as i started backing it a month.

I will askoneof the lads tomorrow for you and pm you. Sintonian can i ask you something,if you got really strong wordon a horse and its running a nothing race that it will 75% of the time win and if it does the price on its next aim this case the Irish Arkle will be significantly effected would you back both races before it runs or after,once the info hits the tape value is over 50% gone therfore more risk implies,this is why when i heard i did the two Arkle's andthen had two bets on him that day one at 11/8 and the other at evs which i think returned 11/10 if i remember correctly

louse69 dont listen to them mate I believe your prices. I have backed him for the Irish Arkle and was tempted earlier but with Mullins you really dont know what will run if like me you dont get inside info.

Studied his first run and for me he is the horse to put it up to Ghizao in the Arkle itself but only if his jumping holds up, he has such speed to burn you know it will be a good Arkle this year with him and Ghizao in it. Also stepped up my combis on Flat Out. There is a strong suspicion Nolan is aiming Noble Prince after his recent comments over elaborating on how the jockey said the further he went the better he went over a longer trip, they are looking to step him up etc ... personally I think they are aiming him at the Arkle behind all of this. He is an interesting candidate and worth a cover.

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I hope so too bud, I've backed him for this antepost and he's my main Arkle horse too.

Also sint, bud, check the Zaidpour thread, this louse is a liar. I caught him out. Fed up with these kind of people on betfair.

just watching tmrw cv,so will cheer it in for you.

yeh,read those threads re the louse chap,he is well out of order it seems.what with mayweather telling us QE was injured as well,think bfair need to take a look at some of these posts.

By the way childofmine where have I put people way off target rather than get things right while you carry on guessing. Dont accuse people of lieing when they are not you thick clown. I dont get into childish things like sintonian ringing up to get people banned because they have a clue and he doesnt, if I did you would all be banned for spreading malicious incorrect rubbish above.

Impressive though he was, he beat fcuk all that day. The 2nd and 3rd favourites were non-runners on the day. The current 9/4 is a ridiulous price for what he has achieved and is being backed on connections and strength of what the trainer has said.

He was/is favourite, Eric. So dress it up how you like. Flat Out is the least exposed runner in the field today, so he is perfectly entitled to improve and step up on what he has shown, but even someone as biased as you will have to admite he didn'' beat much last time, and his price today has a lot to do with Willie Mullins tipping everyone off. Good lcuk with you bet, if you do have a winner, I hope you enjoy it instead of copying and pasting every comment you have ever made just to gloat.

It looks a good race, and may the best horse win.

There we go jumping was the key travelling easy when he fell. Ghizao, Captain Chris and Finian's Rainbow still the ones to beat unless Flat Out and quite a few others of Mullins get jumping lessons. Noble Prince needs stepping up in trip not the pace to win the Arkle.

Agree on that they also need to get someone in to help with jumping coaching the horses. Henderson gets people in to talk to his horses (Long Run who went on to win the King George) dont think a jumping specialist at Mullins to sort them out over the larger obstacles would go amiss. Binocular last season they had someone in sort his hurdling out ... is Mullins going to look for ways of improving the novices jumping?

All evidence so far shows Mikael should go for the longer race re his jumping being way better as he cruised up with Jessie's Dream compared to the 2 miles where he lost his rhythm completely. Quel Esprit will have a better chance in the 2m 4f race. They shouldnt give up on Flat Out for the Arkle  he has the pace and had a great rhythm until he came down.

"Well as he is 2/5 (0.4/1) to lose and 5/2 (2.5/1) to win, you having a more than 6 times better chance of him losing than winning"

Don't want to be a pedant eric, but don't think the odds' percentage chances you have quoted quite work like that.

Good good, just wanted to make sure you didn't confuse the less intellectual posters than yourself.