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Zaidpour - Neptune Novices Hurdle
Zaidpour - Neptune Novices Hurdle
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well i mean hes a nice horse but hes been beat easily now, like the winner at the weekend won doing hand stands against him, who is now a duel g1 winner as it happens so clearly a good horse. not really a profile of a supreme winner either, i prefer hendersons unexposed 2 myself! and the fact hes been beat easily puts me right off now, got laughed at but its not impossible to see him win it, i doubt it tho.
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and i cant have he didnt act on the ground, hes won a g1 swingin on the bridle on soft and also won another race on soft not extended. he was also beat a 1/4 L in a g1 on heavy, he handles the conditions alright. got destroyed on sat, 'moderate 2nd' as the race result says is very fair imo.
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You may be right but he has been touted as WM's best novice for a while and I can't believe he gallops on heavy ground at home.
Tom Segal in today's Post also thinks he may be better on better ground but until he runs we won't know, will we? |
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no i agree, he was absolutely brilliant in the some of his races. hes got a lot of ability, he can defo win it but his last couple runs have just put me off. maybe the ground will revive him. would also be interesting who ruby rides, if hes on him it should be a good start for his followers.
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On reflection his form is actually solid enough, stronger than Spirit Son and Sprinter Sacre (though of course they have a massive 'P' next to their rating and could be anything). He has a very fair e/w chance on the book so the double figure prices this morning weren't bad value at all. I guess it was inflated a bit becuase he had two options - now looks to be a definite runner in the Supreme.
I've still been rather disapointed with him in his last two races - never travelled or jumped that well, and it is to his credit that he battled on to be 2nd each time - certainly nothing wrong with his attitude, and if the better ground see's him improve he may be hard to keep out of the frame. |
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Chances of TS selecting him if he hadn't run at the weekend and was still around 7/1 - virtually zero.
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Brigust,
you say the ground mate,but he managed to stay on in that ground.Just think he ran like a horse that needs further in proper company,still its all about opinions as you say. |
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Brigust1, I'm sorry if I have offended you. It is clear that you are passionate about the aforementioned beast. However, I think they passion may be clouding your judgement somewhat. Personally, I haven't got a particularly strong opinion on who will win the race at the moment. I think Cue Card's form looks about as strong as there is out there but there is clearly little value in going long on that at the moment with the uncertainty as to its target (although I'd be a little surprised if they tackle the Champion this year). I think the race has a pretty open look to it.
What Zaidpour has demonstrated so far is that it is decent, but quite clearly far far far from outstanding. However, backing Zaidpour for the Supreme Novices now, after the evidence of its lack of pace in the previous two runs, is almost as mad as backing One Man to win the Gold Cup after needing an oxygen tent coming up the hill in the previous year's Sun Alliance Chase (i.e. completely crazy when the evidence is black n white). Good luck in your quest though; I'll be the first to congratulate you if my judgement of the horse is well wide of the mark. |
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Can't argue with any of that. I'm just not quick to condemn a horse when there are reasons not to. Not many horses are unbeaten thoughout their careers and that doesn't make them hopeless either.
I've backed Z and CC and as yet fear nothing in the Supreme and everything. The thing is I wouldn't replace my bets with anything at this moment in time. But nothing is cast in stone. I'm a punter after all. Passionate but not faultless. Some of the comments on these threads are thought provoking and some are silly, and they are just mine. |
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Yes Brigust1, I am the brains - The Neptune must be his target!
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That's what I like, confidence.
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Brigust i still say that we are on one hell of a horse come the festival and have no doubts whatsoever that the supreme is still 100% his target and that he will produce what we know he can,which is something very very special,would not swap him for anything
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I've a decent bet on Zaidpour or the Supreme but I'm hardly confident.
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Just watched the replay of lto again - cant have him goin for the Supreme
 Was flat to the boards turnin in and just stayed on last time I do think he'll go for the SN for some reason tho! |
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Half brother to Zaynar so surely the longer race is the way forward
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Willie Mullins stable tour in The Weekender today, when talking about Zaidpour:
"I still have a lot of faith in him and rate him possibly my best chance of the week" Thats quite a statement considering his other runners, Hurricane Fly, Quevega, So Young etc. |
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its quiet a statement,based on what i have seen from the horse!!
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