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Sivola De Sivola (10) , Our Father (12) , Paint The Clouds (12) , Poungach (12) , Thehillofuisneach (14) , Dorset Square (16) , First Fandango (16) , Sweet My Lord (16) , The Knoxs (16) , Barwell Bridge (20) , Buena Vista (20) , Cantlow (20) , Jetson (20) , Sonofvic (20) , Western Leader (20) , Arctic Court (25) , Ely Brown (25) , Five Dream (25) , Volador (25) , Across The Bay (33) - Others 33 or more
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Another Pertemps Handicap Hurdle (Series Qualifier) of £18,000 3m in HAYDOCK today.....
1st Grand Vision (IRE) (19) 5/1 Tote £5.80 £1.70 2nd 7L Sa Suffit (FR) (12) 20/1 £5.30 3rd 7L Tamarinbleu (FR) (7) 33/1 £5.70 4th 7L Cape Tribulation (GB) (1) 22/1 £6.50 Our Father (7) , Sivola De Sivola (8) , Poungach (12) , Paint The Clouds (14) , Sergent Guibs (14) , Thehillofuisneach (14) , Dorset Square (16) , First Fandango (16) , Sweet My Lord (16) , The Knoxs (16) , Barwell Bridge (20) , Buena Vista (20) , Cantlow (20) , Jetson (20) , Sonofvic (20) , Western Leader (20) , Arctic Court (25) , Bellflower Boy (25) , Five Dream (25) , Volador (25) - Others 33 or more |
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OTHERS that may be worth a mention......
Across The Bay 33 Kasbadali 33 Safran De Cotte 33 Warnes Way 33 Prince Tom 33 Alderley Rover 33 Cootamundra 33 Ely Brown 33 Hawk Mountain 33 Kayf Aramis 33 Rival DEstruval 33 Simonside 33 Catch Me 50 (SJ) |
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what where the 11 pipe had entered at carlisle one of them is bound to be a plot
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Here's a link to the horses entered in the abandoned Carlisle race http://horses.sportinglife.com/Racecards/0,12495,482125,00.html
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THERE was a silver lining for some owners and trainers from the abandonment of Carlisle's Wednesday meeting.
The track was to have hosted the latest qualifier for the Pertemps Final at the Cheltenham Festival and the abandonment of the 3m1f race left all 54 entries qualified under the race's rules without having to expose their handicap marks. Chief beneficiary was the west country powerhouse David Pipe, who just happens to be eyeing a hat-trick in the Cheltenham final after Buena Vista's back-to-back wins. Pipe had 11 of the 54 entries, including John Smith's Grand National favourite Junior, in the qualifier won last year by Cheltenham fourth Knockara Beau, who went up for his Carlisle win. There were other multiple entries from the likes of Jonjo O'Neill and Venetia Williams, who have trained past Pertemps Final winners, and Donald McCain. |
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BJG Date 07 Feb 12 18:19
My bet of the meeting is Sivola de Sivola - he better nt fkin run this weekend George experienced better fortune with Module on Saturday, who won his first British start by three and three-quarter lengths and although no plans have been made for him yet, stablemate Sivola De Sivola who finished fourth behind him has a festival target in place. The trainer added: "The highlight was Module providing owner Simon Clarke with his first ever Cheltenham winner in the class 2 handicap hurdle. No future plans have been made for him at this stage. "Sivola De Sivola also ran well in this race, finishing a staying-on fourth. His target will be the Pertemps Final at the festival back over his preferred trip of three miles." |
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AND another ONE.....Pertemps H´cap H´dle of €24000.00 4-y-o plus 3m. Hcap Hurdle 18 Ran in Punchestown 5th Feb.
1st Cootamundra 2nd Really Unique 3rd Sergent Guib's |
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cheers Barnsey
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thieveslikeus 15 Feb 12 11:57
My view is that I'm being very cautious this year going to wait to see the entries and weights. With FIVE of the qualifying races being run in France this year, we might never have heard of the winner... |
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Good work CMIYC....
Booster 6 nov post....Early days however Alfie Sherrin looks interesting off 136,handbrake looked on for the qualifier today,stayed on nicely without troubling leaders,worth a second glance wherever entered. |
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Re colmaaca 18th Feb - imo The plot has to be Our Father. Also left in World Hurdle, and surely a poss Imperial cup horse
but keep schtum, ok ? |
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THE 92 ENTRIES (first with the entries too
)Aachen Venetia Williams 8 Across The Bay (IRE) Donald McCain 8 Adams Island (IRE) Paul Nolan, Ireland 8 Alfie Sherrin Jonjo O'Neill 9 Allthekingshorses (IRE) Philip Hobbs 6 Arctic Court (IRE) Jim Goldie 8 Ashkazar (FR) David Pipe 8 Auroras Encore (IRE) Sue Smith 10 Barwell Bridge Warren Greatrex 6 Battle Group David Pipe 7 Beckett Rock (IRE) M. F. Morris, Ireland 8 Bellflower Boy (IRE) Dr Richard Newland 9 Ben's Folly (IRE) Tim Vaughan 7 Blackwell Synergy (FR) John A. Supple, Ireland 6 Buena Vista (IRE) David Pipe 11 Cantlow (IRE) Paul Webber 7 Cape Tribulation Malcolm Jefferson 8 Carribs Leap (IRE) Charles Egerton 7 Catch Me (GER) E. J. O'Grady, Ireland 10 Chartreux (FR) David Pipe 7 Cockney Trucker (IRE) Philip Hobbs 10 Dawn Commander (GER) Charlie Longsdon 5 Decoy (FR) David Pipe 6 Devotion To Duty (IRE) Lucinda Russell 6 Dooney Rock (IRE) Michael McElhone, Ireland 8 Dorset Square (IRE) Sarah Humphrey 8 Duroob Patrick O. Brady, Ireland 10 Eastlake (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 6 Ely Brown (IRE) Rachel Hobbs 7 Fiulin David Pipe 7 Frontier Dancer (IRE) Lawney Hill 8 Galaxy Rock (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 8 Get Me Out of Here (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 8 Glenwood Knight (IRE) Donald McCain 9 Global Power (IRE) Oliver Sherwood 6 Grand Vision (IRE) Colin Tizzard 6 Hard To Swallow (IRE) Martin Keighley 6 Houblon des Obeaux (FR) Venetia Williams 5 Inspector Clouseau (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 7 Jetson (IRE) Mrs J. Harrington, Ireland 7 Kayf Aramis Nigel Twiston-Davies 10 Knight Pass (IRE) Warren Greatrex 6 Lightning Strike (GER) Venetia Williams 9 Merry King (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 5 Mr Moonshine (IRE) Sue Smith 8 Nagpur (FR) Venetia Williams 6 No Secrets (IRE) David Pipe 8 Open Day (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 6 Orsippus (USA) Michael Smith 6 Oscar Prairie (IRE) Warren Greatrex 7 Ostland (GER) Charlie Longsdon 7 Our Father (IRE) David Pipe 6 Palace Jester Jonjo O'Neill 7 Pettifour (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 10 Pineau de Re (FR) Philip Fenton, Ireland 9 Poole Master David Pipe 7 Poungach (FR) Paul Nicholls 6 Prince Erik D. K. Weld, Ireland 8 Quartz de Thaix (FR) Venetia Williams 8 Qulinton (FR) David Pipe 8 Really Unique (IRE) J. J. Walsh, Ireland 7 Reindeer Dippin Donald McCain 10 Restless Harry Robin Dickin 8 Rick (FR) D. T. Hughes, Ireland 8 Riptide Michael Scudamore 6 Russian War (IRE) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 9 Safran de Cotte (FR) Henry Daly 6 Saphir River (FR) Michael Scudamore 6 Scotsbrook Cloud David Evans 7 Secret Tune Charlie Longsdon 8 Sergent Guib's (FR) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 6 Shoegazer (IRE) David Pipe 7 Shoreacres (IRE) Brendan Powell 9 Sir Kezbaah (IRE) Jeremy Scott 8 Sivola de Sivola (FR) Tom George 6 Sonofvic (IRE) Paul Nicholls 7 Star of Angels David Pipe 8 Stow Venetia Williams 7 Sunnyhillboy (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9 Sweet My Lord (FR) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 6 Tarvini (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 7 Tenor Nivernais (FR) Venetia Williams 5 Thehillofuisneach (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 8 The Pier (IRE) David Pipe 6 Toner d'Oudairies (FR) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 5 Tornado Bob (IRE) Donald McCain 7 Tour des Champs (FR) Nigel Twiston-Davies 5 Turner Brown (IRE) Michael O'Hare, Ireland 8 Volador (IRE) Philip Hobbs 8 Wayward Prince Ian Williams 8 Well Hello There (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 6 Wolf Moon (IRE) Martin Keighley 9 |
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ONLY 37 of the 92 entries priced up by the books..............
Our Father (7) , Sivola De Sivola (8) , Buena Vista (12) , Poungach (12) , Grand Vision (14) , Paint The Clouds (14) , Sergent Guibs (14) , Thehillofuisneach (14) , Catch Me (16) , Dorset Square (16) , First Fandango (16) , Sweet My Lord (16) , The Knoxs (16) , Barwell Bridge (20) , Cantlow (20) , Jetson (20) , Sonofvic (20) , Star Of Angels (20) , Western Leader (20) , Arctic Court (25) - Others 25 or more |
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Does anyone have a list of which races these used to qualify?
Similarly, how many come from the French qualifiers? - it looks like it might be none which raises the question why 5 qualifies were run there. |
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Sivola De Sivola 50/50 to get in in my opinion.
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How many down is he Penguin?
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Any wan got them in OR order ?
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Yes need to know how many above Sivola, baring in mind irish trained horses have no rating over here yet.
He was above about approx 30 UK based trained horses. |
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Catch me hit the OR at the top of the entries puts them in order or ts for top speed etc etc
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I agree with the above, if like myself you have backed Sivola De Sivola looking at the entries you will be fortunate to get a run - 43 entries rated higher and several others on same mark - if they don't get in they have messed up badly losing over the wrong trip rather than going up for winning over a longer one.
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THE "OR" listing
132341 Restless Harry26 8 Robin Dickin 157 147 156 510-P7 Ashkazar80 8 David Pipe 155 70 129 2P-522 Get Me Out Of Here27 8 Jonjo O´Neill 155 145 156 131-12 Poungach74 6 Paul Nicholls 154 141 154 122-1 Our Father90 6 David Pipe 148 117 147 92U205 Battle Group18 7 David Pipe 143 125 138 P/2368 Pettifour61 10 Nigel Twiston-Davies 143 121 147 411-97 Sir Kezbaah27 8 Jeremy Scott 143 127 148 5P504 Cape Tribulation26 8 Malcolm Jefferson 142 146 150 222533 Cockney Trucker74 10 Philip Hobbs 142 122 142 11-25 Sonofvic74 7 Paul Nicholls 141 -1 — 782425 Across The Bay47 8 Donald McCain 140 137 143 006011 Bellflower Boy49 9 Dr Richard Newland 140 95 134 900509 Buena Vista27 11 David Pipe 140 106 119 96710 Houblon Des Obeaux26 5 Venetia Williams 140 132 138 17-P4P Quartz De Thaix117 8 Venetia Williams 140 107 126 F5P20 Tornado Bob26 7 Donald McCain 140 101 102 12-402 Cantlow103 7 Paul Webber 139 131 143 8F131P Palace Jester26 7 Jonjo O´Neill 139 112 140 002414 Reindeer Dippin26 10 Donald McCain 139 136 142 27232 Saphir River131 6 Michael Scudamore 139 -1 124 F5P222 Shoreacres54 9 Brendan Powell 139 113 140 4-P47P Wayward Prince26 8 Ian Williams 139 -1 — 06-336 Barwell Bridge34 6 Warren Greatrex 138 131 137 50225 Kayf Aramis26 10 Nigel Twiston-Davies 138 113 137 4-1116 Thehillofuisneach26 8 Jonjo O´Neill 138 119 138 51222P Scotsbrook Cloud26 7 David Evans 137 124 137 23211 Grand Vision26 6 Colin Tizzard 136 132 137 9-0544 Orsippus29 6 Michael Smith 136 122 135 481/01 Star Of Angels68 8 David Pipe 136 113 141 0-1316 Knight Pass47 6 Warren Greatrex 135 112 138 0-8103 Lightning Strike48 9 Venetia Williams 135 94 134 11350 Mr Moonshine26 8 Sue Smith 135 102 99 F-37P9 Sunnyhillboy26 9 Jonjo O´Neill 135 134 138 30-F4 Chartreux53 7 David Pipe 133 115 120 1291P7 Ostland33 7 Charlie Longsdon 133 127 130 P-PF75 Alfie Sherrin26 9 Jonjo O´Neill 132 120 121 7010P Dorset Square48 8 Sarah Humphrey 132 102 138 FP112 Nagpur21 6 Venetia Williams 132 113 135 11514 Sivola De Sivola47 6 Tom George 132 127 135 --------------First 40 above-------------------------------- PP-233 Wolf Moon110 9 Martin Keighley 132 101 131 71027 Frontier Dancer53 8 Lawney Hill 131 109 134 8319-8 Shoegazer145 7 David Pipe 131 120 120 4-2009 Global Power53 6 Oliver Sherwood 130 94 136 2F442 Hard To Swallow34 6 Martin Keighley 130 126 137 214-11 Poole Master56 7 David Pipe 130 118 135 P8171 Tenor Nivernais24 5 Venetia Williams 130 126 144 88-172 Well Hello There89 6 Jonjo O´Neill 130 105 131 22446 Arctic Court33 8 Jim Goldie 129 128 129 P50-06 Auroras Encore22 10 Sue Smith 129 28 87 120-3P No Secrets104 8 David Pipe 129 103 118 1F32P Tour Des Champs26 5 Nigel Twiston-Davies 129 74 129 21208 Decoy22 6 David Pipe 128 119 133 332/62 Volador26 8 Philip Hobbs 128 105 130 F-5P24 Glenwood Knight54 9 Donald McCain 127 121 127 387-31 Secret Tune34 8 Charlie Longsdon 127 85 124 137-02 The Pier68 6 David Pipe 127 104 131 0-695 Aachen61 8 Venetia Williams 126 110 122 15851 Allthekingshorses22 6 Philip Hobbs 126 128 133 230P-1 Fiulin25 7 David Pipe 126 79 120 ---------------Next 20 above--------------------------------- F31137 Dawn Commander74 5 Charlie Longsdon 125 116 124 U62720 Devotion To Duty22 6 Lucinda Russell 125 124 125 1-1280 Eastlake26 6 Jonjo O´Neill 125 99 126 8U1U20 Ely Brown22 7 Rachel Hobbs 125 109 124 1PP11 Oscar Prairie19 7 Warren Greatrex 125 132 135 01-400 Riptide92 6 Michael Scudamore 125 91 90 43106 Safran De Cotte26 6 Henry Daly 125 115 129 1-712P Ben´s Folly26 7 Tim Vaughan 124 28 124 66611 Merry King25 5 Jonjo O´Neill 122 85 121 34-832 Carribs Leap49 7 Charles Egerton 121 105 119 P04525 Stow27 7 Venetia Williams 120 118 122 732211 Tarvini111 7 Jonjo O´Neill 120 101 127 8763- Open Day339 6 Jonjo O´Neill 118 58 120 -----------------No OR listed in RP below------------------------- 2-U534 Adams Island49 8 Paul Nolan — 33 139 421276 Beckett Rock18 8 M F Morris — 112 136 169219 Blackwell Synergy39 6 John A Supple — 68 135 3-6375 Catch Me39 10 E J O´Grady — 70 145 07251 Dooney Rock64 8 Michael McElhone — 101 130 946990 Duroob39 10 Patrick O Brady — 90 126 1-31P4 Galaxy Rock47 8 Jonjo O´Neill — 80 132 23295B Inspector Clouseau77 7 W P Mullins — 129 141 2-1541 Jetson77 7 Mrs John Harrington — 112 140 61F54 Pineau De Re39 9 Philip Fenton — 108 148 1-0690 Prince Erik32 8 D K Weld — 66 125 002009 Qulinton110 8 David Pipe — 65 131 121226 Really Unique19 7 John J Walsh — 66 127 54F23 Rick25 8 D T Hughes — 123 142 2F55P Russian War138 9 Gordon Elliott — 136 144 41/33 Sergent Guib´s39 6 W P Mullins — 63 152 0-0144 Sweet My Lord47 6 W P Mullins — 139 152 6-54U6 Toner D´Oudairies77 5 Gordon Elliott — 91 134 141-03 Turner Brown19 8 Michael O´Hare — 83 133 |
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In the last 2 years only the first 30 and 32 got a run (respectively).
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Gonna be close re Sivola De Sivola imo
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Can anyone confirm to me, has sonofvic qualified to run and how?
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Was prob entered for the abandoned Carlisle race like the other 100
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bnN - BJG is correct.
Stevo - I don't think he'll get a run - 10 or so of the horses without British ORs will be above him as well looking at the RPRs so he could be approx 50th on the list. |
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Looks like Sivola fans like myself are reliant on Pipe, Jonjo and Venetia swinging the axe many times!
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-ollox thought he was too well handicapped off 132, only hope they put him up few pounds when weights realised, as 134 was lowest to get into last season._On at 14s e/w, was waiting to top up have to wait bit longer now.
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Weights Released ffs
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Restless Harry Robin Dickin 11st 12lb
Get Me Out of Here (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 11st 10lb Ashkazar (FR) David Pipe 11st 10lb Poungach (FR) Paul Nicholls 11st 9lb Our Father (IRE) David Pipe 11st 3lb Sweet My Lord (FR) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 11st 3lb Russian War (IRE) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 11st 2lb Pettifour (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 10st 12lb Rick (FR) D. T. Hughes, Ireland 10st 12lb Sergent Guib's (FR) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10st 12lb Sir Kezbaah (IRE) Jeremy Scott 10st 12lb Cape Tribulation Malcolm Jefferson 10st 11lb Cockney Trucker (IRE) Philip Hobbs 10st 11lb Sonofvic (IRE) Paul Nicholls 10st 10lb Battle Group David Pipe 10st 9lb Pineau de Re (FR) Philip Fenton, Ireland 10st 9lb Bellflower Boy (IRE) Dr Richard Newland 10st 9lb Catch Me (GER) E. J. O'Grady, Ireland 10st 9lb Buena Vista (IRE) David Pipe 10st 9lb Across The Bay (IRE) Donald McCain 10st 9lb ----------------------FIRST 20-------------------------------- Houblon des Obeaux (FR) Venetia Williams 10st 9lb Tenor Nivernais (FR) Venetia Williams 10st 9lb Tornado Bob (IRE) Donald McCain 10st 9lb Quartz de Thaix (FR) Venetia Williams 10st 9lb Saphir River (FR) Michael Scudamore 10st 8lb Nagpur (FR) Venetia Williams 10st 8lb Shoreacres (IRE) Brendan Powell 10st 8lb Wayward Prince Ian Williams 10st 8lb Palace Jester Jonjo O'Neill 10st 8lb Reindeer Dippin Donald McCain 10st 8lb Cantlow (IRE) Paul Webber 10st 8lb Kayf Aramis Nigel Twiston-Davies 10st 7lb Barwell Bridge Warren Greatrex 10st 7lb Thehillofuisneach (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 10st 7lb Toner d'Oudairies (FR) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 10st 6lb Prince Erik D. K. Weld, Ireland 10st 6lb Inspector Clouseau (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10st 6lb Scotsbrook Cloud David Evans 10st 6lb Grand Vision (IRE) Colin Tizzard 10st 5lb Star of Angels David Pipe 10st 5lb ----------------------FIRST 40---------------------------------- Orsippus (USA) Michael Smith 10st 5lb Mr Moonshine (IRE) Sue Smith 10st 4lb Knight Pass (IRE) Warren Greatrex 10st 4lb Qulinton (FR) David Pipe 10st 4lb Lightning Strike (GER) Venetia Williams 10st 4lb Sunnyhillboy (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 10st 4lb Jetson (IRE) Mrs J. Harrington, Ireland 10st 4lb Chartreux (FR) David Pipe 10st 2lb Adams Island (IRE) Paul Nolan, Ireland 10st 2lb Oscar Prairie (IRE) Warren Greatrex 10st 2lb Ostland (GER) Charlie Longsdon 10st 2lb Sivola de Sivola (FR) Tom George 10st 1lb Dorset Square (IRE) Sarah Humphrey 10st 1lb Wolf Moon (IRE) Martin Keighley 10st 1lb Alfie Sherrin Jonjo O'Neill 10st 1lb Shoegazer (IRE) David Pipe 10st 0lb Frontier Dancer (IRE) Lawney Hill 10st 0lb Galaxy Rock (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9st 13lb Dooney Rock (IRE) Michael McElhone, Ireland 9st 13lb Global Power (IRE) Oliver Sherwood 9st 13lb Allthekingshorses (IRE) Philip Hobbs 9st 13lb Hard To Swallow (IRE) Martin Keighley 9st 13lb Fiulin David Pipe 9st 13lb Poole Master David Pipe 9st 13lb Well Hello There (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9st 13lb Arctic Court (IRE) Jim Goldie 9st 12lb Tour des Champs (FR) Nigel Twiston-Davies 9st 12lb Auroras Encore (IRE) Sue Smith 9st 12lb No Secrets (IRE) David Pipe 9st 12lb Beckett Rock (IRE) M. F. Morris, Ireland 9st 12lb Volador (IRE) Philip Hobbs 9st 11lb Secret Tune Charlie Longsdon 9st 10lb Decoy (FR) David Pipe 9st 10lb Glenwood Knight (IRE) Donald McCain 9st 10lb The Pier (IRE) David Pipe 9st 10lb Aachen Venetia Williams 9st 9lb Safran de Cotte (FR) Henry Daly 9st 8lb Really Unique (IRE) J. J. Walsh, Ireland 9st 8lb Riptide Michael Scudamore 9st 8lb Devotion To Duty (IRE) Lucinda Russell 9st 8lb Eastlake (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9st 8lb Dawn Commander (GER) Charlie Longsdon 9st 8lb Ely Brown (IRE) Rachel Hobbs 9st 8lb Turner Brown (IRE) Michael O'Hare, Ireland 9st 8lb Merry King (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9st 7lb Blackwell Synergy (FR) John A. Supple, Ireland 9st 7lb Ben's Folly (IRE) Tim Vaughan 9st 7lb Carribs Leap (IRE) Charles Egerton 9st 4lb Tarvini (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9st 3lb Stow Venetia Williams 9st 3lb Open Day (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9st 1lb Duroob Patrick O. Brady, Ireland 8st 7lb |
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NO 52 is Sivola de Sivola 10st 1lb
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No chance of getting in surely. Hope my second choice, Barwell Bridge, makes it. That's s not a gimme either
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So will sivola get a run or not? i am waiting quite eagerly for this and i have no idea one way or the other. It still seems quite solid on betfair, but any info will be appreciated. will be devastated if it doesnt get in.
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In the last 2 seasons numbers 30 and 32 were the lowest to get a run, so it would be a surprise at this stage.
However, if it's expeted to be declared, that would explain the price holding up as you get your money back if it's in the final decs but doesn't get a run because of the safety limit. (It's seocndary target, the Bartlett, declares later). |
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There are approx 20 above him Sivola that is, could be long wait entered in Coral, also in Martin Pipe couldnt be bothered to go thru that crap race as only 191 entries! Barwell Bridge will be find imo.
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With fancied runners Our Father and his number 1 Buena Vista, I wouldn't think he would be keen to pull his others out to give those lower down a chance.
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No meant Martin Pipe race, double entries for trainer David Pipe
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Really fancy Cantlow here
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