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Best Mate / Henrietta Never given the Credit
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All i said about Matey is that he was in a era where there wasnt a lot about....
Hen doesnt run ANYTHING that often imo, still if you think that Jump horses should run three times a year as a norm we are going to have a lot of small fields every year until Cheltenham. Ask the man in the street to name three racehorses and id wager Matey wouldnt be in the top 5, and with the game slowly fading we NEED public interest |
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I dont personally think that is the fault of the horses and anyway Best Mate was front page news his 3rd Gold Cup due to Hen, something Kauto is now unlikely to attract the same attention for.
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Yep, just ask 100 people on the street to name three racehorses
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Bear in mind 3m2f around Cheltenham is far from Kauto's best conditions. Best mate was lethal around Prestbury park.
On good ground I'd be a Best mate backer. At Kempton however Kauto would be free money. |
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Exactly Mr Eboue .. seems so obvious looking at the form / way the races have been run.
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On good ground i would have Kauto anywhere over 3m - 3m 2f,just think he is a better class of horse,simple as that for me.
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The broad nature of Kauto's achievements and the superior nature of the rivals he has faced mean he will be judged by history to be a more noteworthy horse than Best Mate in my opinion. I would say that the likes of Voy Por Ustedes, Denman, Imperial Commander and Exotic Dancer were better than what Best Mate was beating.
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neil d - i agree with you
budd - I also agree with you unclepuncle - what are you on, even Luke Harvey could win on it!!! You need to see a doctor. Back to the Somersby point, he had a great opportunity to win at Exeter last week, with the top weight keeping what I thought would be his main rivals just out of the handicap. I have watched the race a few times and have come to the view that they went too fast up front and Hadden Frost felt he could win as he pleased when the pace setters folded. Had he ridden with a fraction more restraint, although I think the horse maybe jumped him into a false sense of security over fences 8 out to 5 out, they may have prevailed. I also thought he stayed on after the last, suggesting he did blow up in the straight, which may have caused the errors. I am not blaming Frost at all as I reckon he expected the horse to gallop to the line. Whatever the reason (going on when the front runners faded or a lack of fitness - or both) that is clearly not his running, i.e. he ran nowhere near his handicap mark which to my mind was vary fair. His jumping has been excellent - very impressive at Sandown last year - and the Tingle Creek is the obvious next stop. If the horse was just short last time and/ or they "came too soon" they will know after the TC (win or lose) exactly where they go from there. I am not sure what his best trip will be, whether he will prove more effective over 2.5 or 3+ remains to be seen, but for the time being they have to prove whether or not he is a top notch 2 miler in the making. |
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Spot on Masterminded - To win 3 is outstanding
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Ask the man in the street to name three racehorses and id wager Matey wouldnt be in the top 5, and with the game slowly fading we NEED public interest
would kauto or denman be known by the man in the street either...doubtful anyone without an interest in racing would mention these two.....red rum desert orchid and a photo finish for 3rd place i reckon |
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my mrs. has suffered me hogging the telly pretty much everyday for many years and been forced to watch many races with me....she wouldn't have the first clue who kauto star is.
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Could be something to do with only appearing three times a year..........
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if by running them a few times more would miraculously get them onto the front pages and news headlines on a regular basis...then maybe your average bloke in the street might remember them...otherwise not much chance.
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TBF, the horseracing product has been diluted so much and is now ignored by the wider media( Zenyatta would have made news even 10 years ago over here)
Even on Saturdays, you used to get the finish to the big race of the day, The demise of Grandstand and The World of Sport from BBC 1 and Itv on to the smaller Channels signalled the beginning of the end |
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I was 7 when i had my first bet....on the itv 7
 my grandad got me to pick some out, i was in a family that all liked to have a bet...so it was easy for me....but picking up on your point....if the telly races weren't around in those days and i got into my teenage years before i started betting...the chances are i may have missed out altogether  |
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eric morris if hen was so right not to run matey in a handicap why are u knocking kauto for not winning one.i loved best mate backed in all 3 gc ive also never seen a horse use so little energy getting from one side of a fence to the other he just did it with so little fuss.but when u start knocking kauto about turpin green the fact is in 3 gc he never beat anything as good as exotic dancer
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