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Kennyken
20 Jun 10 12:44
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Just wondering if anyone has used this system and whats your thoughts?
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Report supersavo June 27, 2010 10:56 AM BST
Is that the one where you set light to the dealers card if he is showing Ace or picture ?
Report maglin July 1, 2010 1:40 PM BST
Yes, Kennyken - and I can tell you that it doesn't work! Or at least it doesn't for me.

The live video demo is impressive, and unmanipulated, and I think the seller is sincere. He shows shots of his BF account, and it's clear that over a two week period he was managing to draw £50 per day. Trouble is, that could have been some time ago. I think I'm right in saying that BF have changed their software from Chartwell to Playtech, which might have made a difference.

When I trialled the system on 'play for free', I got some pretty good results, but with actual money it's been terrible! Mind you, this might have more to do with the unfeasible 'luck' of the dealer, than the Flaming Torch system.

Played this morning, and BF dealer had an incredible run - 8 blackjacks to my one, over a period of about 25 minutes, and a losing streak for me of 12 bets in a row. The hands the dealer was making were just laughable, not that it was much to laugh about.

I play strictly to the book strategy, apart from adjusting stakes, which ought to make no difference to the cards dealt. But I find that if I raise or drop the stakes, the cards seem to change accordingly. Bet small and you get little movement either way. Bet large and the dealer immediately gets hand after hand, against all reasonable strategic odds. I've read many similar moans on the subject, and just put it down player paranoia and bad losing. I'm sure the auditors can show that the overall house edge and payout are fair, but individually you get a very strong sense that the hand is already played from the moment the bet is placed, and that there's no way you're going to win if the RNG has already decided against it.

This is a thought that saps the spirit. No matter what you do, or what strategy you adopt, the machine will win whenever it wants/needs to. I'm tempted to spend some more time on the free player, and see what happens if I take a completely nonsensical approach, ie demonstrate the true meaning of the word 'random'. I wouldn't be surprised if the win/lose ratio remains exactly the same.

(PS. Does anyone know if there's any way of obtaining an official log of play?)
Report St3ve July 5, 2010 1:24 PM BST
Can you tell us more about this flaming torch thing?
Report Grunweld July 5, 2010 3:22 PM BST
Well apart from telling you that nothing from that stable ever works and they are all pure scams, even if it did work then no online casino would ever allow you to profit from them on a long term basis.
Report atiboy July 27, 2010 8:03 PM BST
Well since the flamingtorch system like the roulette, hi-lo exchange and blackjack have been a disappointment for some buyers, would be interested to know how the snooker system has turned out.
Any reviews?
Report Robs September 9, 2010 2:13 PM BST
Hi

forget the HiLO system  It does NOT work. Goes OK fora a while then come 4 losers in 7 hands. Losses then are £300. Good luck making that up at £5.00 per win.  That 4 losers in 7 hands happens often enough, it's not a fluke, So does 2 losers in a row. 

Probably need a bank of £750 then take £50 out a day. Win or lose. That will work for a while. But the bank will go downhill.
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