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By:
GRANTCKING
When: 07 Dec 16 17:37
when will eddie have the bollock to put AJ in with haye imo?!?!
By:
wisewords
When: 07 Dec 16 19:10
David Haye ran away from Tyson Fury, Coop. there are questions around David Haye's bollocks imo
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 07 Dec 16 19:24

Dec 7, 2016 -- 7:10PM, wisewords wrote:


David Haye ran away from Tyson Fury, Coop. there are questions around David Haye's bollocks imo


LaughLaughLaugh

By:
wisewords
When: 07 Dec 16 19:43
Cool
By:
tobermory
When: 19 Feb 17 16:44
Bellew now hyping up the rematch...


"I'm going to be a good man and give 'Sideshow Bob' a return once I've knocked him out," Bellew told Sky Sports News HQ.

"I'm going to give him a way back, because believe you me, when I beat him on March 4 you are going to hear every excuse possible. From he's got a sore toe, a broken finger nail, his hair band wasn't on right.

"I'm already prepared for 'I wasn't taking him seriously', 'I was in Miami', 'I was on yachts, 'I was sipping protein shakes out of a cocktail glass'.

"All I will say is, I will give you the chance to get it back, once I stop you on March 4."
By:
n88uk
When: 19 Feb 17 17:46
In other words just desperate for another payday. Highly doubt it will be viable when Haye KO's him inside 6.
By:
Zazu
When: 20 Feb 17 01:26
Haye looks in better shape than when he was fighting at cruiserweight. Expect him to win very early


Made me laugh watching him talk about being on a $26million yacht (presumably Sky/Hayemaker rental) like hes Mayweather Crazy
By:
Topboys
When: 20 Feb 17 01:57
££££££. Will be over in 3 absolute mismatch. Hearn will love it as well as they've built up the fight like it will actually be a contest
By:
Senyatta
When: 20 Feb 17 14:57
i don't think haye will want to knock him out early though. i think he will knock him out when he wants - but who knows when that will be
By:
Zazu
When: 21 Feb 17 16:48
If he KOs him early he can go straight to calling out Joshua
By:
n88uk
When: 21 Feb 17 17:07
Haye has to look good for the above reason. If he looks sh*t it reduces paydays down the line, plus I think he hates Bellew anyway and probably wants give him a pasting.
By:
tobermory
When: 21 Feb 17 19:23
It really is bizarre that we can back Haye @1.22 or that this fight even exists

Haye is a small heavyweight , but he is till one of the most powerful , he has basically knocked out everyone except Valuev and Wlad and he hardly threw anything at those 2.

Chisora has taken countless flush shots from huge heavyweights and never went down , but Haye demolished him .

Meanwhile Bellew must have been on the floor about 7 times against light heavies , even Bob Ajisafe had him chicken dancing across the ring.....

I see Bellew - despite all the talk - coming out fully turtled , Haye prowling around looking bored for about 1m 45 secs , then blasting one through the Bellew's guard and knocking him out cold.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Feb 17 00:09
Haye will carry him for a few though surely even if he can KO him easy. Did that against Fraudley.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 23 Feb 17 13:21
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04t8f6y LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
tobermory
When: 23 Feb 17 17:47
Laugh

Haye will carry him for a few though surely even if he can KO him easy. Did that against Fraudley


I don't think that is necessary here . Eddie is totally shameless with these PPVs , he doesn't care how crap they are it is just straight on to the next one...

Look at the Molina one , the guy barely had time to get off the canvas before Eddie was announcing the AJ/Wlad fight , so that was immediately the headline boxing show , rather than the crap main event

This time i expect it will last 1 round and Eddie will be stood there saying the IBF have just made Haye no.1 contender and so hell be fighting the AJ/Wlad winner , he will be hyping that up while Bellew is being stretchered out
By:
Senyatta
When: 24 Feb 17 13:24
what do people think are the true odds here? i'd make haye at least a 1/10 shot so his price looks decent. i think danny garcia 2/1 next week is good value too...and i'm seeing mayweather 1/10 to beat mcgregor. golovkin price doesn't look great eventhough i am sure of a knockout..1/9 very short
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Feb 17 15:45
I remember before Haye/Harrison there were a few people making a case for Audley.

I have not seen one person anywhere who gives Bellew a prayer , but Haye is bigger odds for this fight.
By:
Des Pond
When: 24 Feb 17 17:26
I would rate Bellew's chances at higher than Fraudley, who was a 50/1 shot at best, imo. This is partly because Haye was a younger and fitter man when he KO'd Harrison. Not sure how to gauge his fitness and stamina these days, though he should still carry more than enough power to knock Bellew out. Unlike harrison, Bellew is a genuine fighter, and for this reason I would give him a chance, considering the fact that Haye's chin has been suspect in the past, and we haven't seen him in with a puncher for a long time. Having said that, Bellew also has an even more suspect chin, so I would still expect Haye to stop him, 1.22 is a good price, it's just that I tend not to back anything at a price as low as that. There is no value in backing the fight not to go the distance at less than 1.2 (although it's a very likely outcome). So maybe Haye by KO at 1.35 is the way to go.
Personally I will be saving my shillings for Thurmann V Garcia, which should be a much better fight, as well as a better betting opportunity.
By:
pan07
When: 25 Feb 17 20:22
1.2 is massive when fight was being made i thought 1.02 at most
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 26 Feb 17 16:22
gloves are off 2nite at 7pm on sky sports 1
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 26 Feb 17 16:22
GrinGrin
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 26 Feb 17 19:36
this gloves are off is a bit disappointing after what happened with whyte and chisora
By:
wisewords
When: 26 Feb 17 23:34
don't think Haye like it when Bellew reminded him about Carl Thompson
By:
wisewords
When: 26 Feb 17 23:34
liked* it
By:
tobermory
When: 27 Feb 17 00:30
Why ? that was about 13 years ago !

Did Haye mention Adonis Stevenson ?
By:
wisewords
When: 27 Feb 17 02:31
Because it brought back bad memories? I think Haye wins this fight easily tobemory. But when Bellew brought up him losing to Carl Thompson, Haye went quiet and certainly didn't like it.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 27 Feb 17 21:02
todays press conference didnt disappoint GrinGrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKiAmc62VkM
By:
wolf3011
When: 27 Feb 17 23:39

Dec 7, 2016 -- 1:46PM, n88uk wrote:


But I think he could do anyway. There's no sign to me that the AJ hype train is fading despite him facing nobodies. You are relying on Klitschko being 100% shot for AJ to beat him tbh, a huge risk imo. Because if he isn't shot, AJ has no more than punchers chance, Klitschko anywhere near to his best will outjab Joshua all night and make him look very silly.And the PPV gravy train is surely over if he loses. No-one would surely buy Joshua vs Molina in a non-title fight after Joshua has been exposed would they.Anyway as it sounds it will be at Wembley I will very likely be getting tickets for it.


Klitschko has to be 100% shot for Joshua to win is one of daftest things I've ever read. Fury isnt fit to lace Joshuas boots and Vlad didnt lay a punch on him all night and expect Joshua to beat Vlad comfortably in a complete mismatch against a slow robotic Ivan Drago has been.

By:
wolf3011
When: 27 Feb 17 23:46
As far as the Haye vs Bellew fight goes, another mismatch with two fighters effectively competing from different weight divisions and huge discrepancies in power between the two
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Feb 17 02:18
This is pretty much a straight up con and everyone involved is in on it. A mismatch with an awful undercard, meanwhile Brook vs Spence will be ppv with a far better undercard and won't do anywhere near as many buys Crazy.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Feb 17 02:20
And Wolf you way overrate Joshua. Joshua whose best win is Dillian Whyte, who rocked him. Joshua wouldn't have landed a punch on Fury either. Joshua only has one way of blasting his opponent out. Zero jab, nothing. Wlad has to be shot for Joshua to win, because Joshua literally would just get jabbed into oblivion otherwise.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Feb 17 02:28

Feb 23, 2017 -- 5:47PM, tobermory wrote:


Haye will carry him for a few though surely even if he can KO him easy. Did that against FraudleyI don't think that is necessary here . Eddie is totally shameless with these PPVs , he doesn't care how crap they are it is just straight on to the next one...Look at the Molina one , the guy barely had time to get off the canvas before Eddie was announcing the AJ/Wlad fight , so that was immediately the headline boxing show , rather than the crap main eventThis time i expect it will last 1 round and Eddie will be stood there saying the IBF have just made Haye no.1 contender and so hell be fighting the AJ/Wlad winner , he will be hyping that up while Bellew is being stretchered out


Can't see him doing that. I mean Joshua is his #1 card, if he did that for Haye he could potentially be announcing a fight not even on Sky (if Klitschko wins), there's too little to gain for him to announce this before Joshua vs Klitschko has actually happened. Plus it would be a disgrace anyway if Haye was made #1 contender for beating 2 door men and a cruiserweight.

Now you mention the Audley fight in a later post. It's amazing really, Haye has got 2 big ppv paydays from fights he literally can't lose. Has to be the best salesman in the business for people to buy this rubbish.

Hearn was criticising other ppvs in his recent IFL, and while he does have some good upcoming main events. He has put on some awful headliners on PPV. Brook vs Gavin. Like all of Joshua's ppv's have had crap main events. Bellew vs Clev. This latest being a straight up con because I honestly don't even think Hearn believes this is competitive, the whole thing has been built to sell to the max.

By:
Senyatta
When: 28 Feb 17 03:24
what are everyone's stakes for this fight then?

for the aj fight, klit hasn't fought in nearly 2 years and he was dreadful against fury, fury said himself he would have retired if he couldn't beat an old man. now nearly 2 years have passed can klit actually be much better? surely if anything he will be much worse. joshua has fought nobody yet so it is unknown territory
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Feb 17 12:51
No-one really knows the answer to that I guess, but he at least keeps himself in shape. You wonder why he has taken the fight, he must believe he can win, otherwise surely he would retire, it's not like there's anything left for him to prove, but he's taken on what would be perceived to be the highest risk fight in the division.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Feb 17 12:52
And I can't imagine he needs the money either.
By:
everton1978
When: 01 Mar 17 18:45
Haye Joshua will be as big a mismatch as Haye Bellew. Can't believe people are still doubting Joshua. As for this fight I can't see it going more than 3 at the very most. Bellew isn't even that good a cruiserweight, f knows what's going to happen when he takes one from Haye. At least in the 3g v Brook fight you had a skilled boxer fighting out of his weight to give him a (slim) chance.
By:
Des Pond
When: 01 Mar 17 18:51
The fight is still going ahead despite talk of Haye having an achilles injury. Whether it was idle speculation, based on Haye flying to Munich to see the surgeon that did his shoulder operation, or Haye setting up a potential excuse if he doesn't perform as well as expected, remains to be seen. Either way, it doesn't seem to be serious enough to threaten the fight.
By:
Senyatta
When: 02 Mar 17 02:14
worrying for haye backers nonetheless. maybe haye r1-3 is worth a punt even more now as he may want to end this as early as possible.
By:
dr . atkins
When: 02 Mar 17 19:27
haye wins  this fight easy the only danger is his shoulder at 2t9 i will take that chance bellew no heavyweight and after this fight can carry on beating poor boxes in the cruiserweight division it's massive the step up from cruiserweight to heavyweight ask haye
By:
Topboys
When: 03 Mar 17 13:18
Right with all the outrage on Hayes comments, is anyone here actually offended by his comments!? It's boxing FFS
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