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It's why I don't get Quigg was doing. To me he gave away the first 6 rounds without even trying to win them.
Which is similar to what Eubanks Jr did vs Saunders. |
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Kugan Cassius
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my spelling
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His game plan seemed to be get it to the later rounds and knock him out, but that's a pretty crap game plan really as it means you can never win on points. Contributed to it being a crap fight, which makes a rematch far less attractive to be made. So just makes no real sense.
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you could see quigg knew he'd lost, the corner knew he'd lost, family, friends, everyone knew he lost.
but good old boxing one of the judges thought he won. |
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Nah not Kugan. The other bloke
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His trainer won Ring magazine Trainer of the Year last year lol.
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Boxing is you either lose or win a round. Quigg should have gone out and boxed and would have won. He handed 4-5 rounds to frampton by doing nothing. Simple his corner men are brain dead if they didnt see what was happening.
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It just strikes me as one of those fights that surely you are going to have regrets if you do what Quigg did. He says he didn't, he thought it was even, or whatever spiel. But he has to know he wasn't doing all he good to win those early rounds. You have to pace yourself to an extent, but not to the extent you show no real interest in winning the round.
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Any chance of a catch weight contest to end the evening's proceedings?
Am thinking James Nesbitt v Kell Brook. |
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The judge who gave it to Quigg, scored Canelo vs Lara 117-111 Canelo which was complete bs too.
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It does throw the scoring system into question though. You can split the fight into two halves.
The first half (1-6) was dull as feck. Neither fighter landed more than a couple of shots in the first 6 rounds. Fair enough Frampton won those rounds, probably 5-1 or maybe 4-2, whatever. The second half of the fight saw about 5 times as many punches thrown. This was the only period of the fight where there was any chance of anyone getting knocked out. Quigg probably won this period of the fight 4-2 or 5-1. Presumably the judges gave the first half to Frampton 5-1 and the second half to Quigg 4-2 but the rounds Quigg won he looked like he hurt Frampton. The rounds Frampton won he caused no damage. |
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eddie hearn had frampton by two. wtf gave that to quigg !!
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I actually think it would have suited Quigg more to have gone to war from round 1.
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Pretty sure the judges will have given all of the first 6 rounds to Frampton. I reckon the 116-112's probably had the same scorecard I did, ie. the first 7 rounds to Frampton, the next 4 to Quigg, and the last round to Frampton.
Most the Quigg rounds (at least 3) were pretty clear, and so was the last round to Frampton. So to get 116-112 you basically have to have scored it that way. |
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Fair enough if people thought Frampton won but all joking aside how anyone could score the first round to Frampton is just beyond belief. He threw a couple of jabs which landed on the gloves - nobody landed anything clean so it had to be a split round
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Because he was the only who tried to do anything and judges are encouraged not to sit on the fence and give 10-10 rounds. TV (well Sky) give way more 10-10s than are actually ever given.
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I do know how to score a fight n88! I just didn't give frampton every round of the first 6. I could easily see quigg winning a rematch - which if somebody wins by 4 you shouldn't be able to say!
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But I don't see how anyone can give Quigg a single round from the first 6.
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It's the old classic of a boxer being worried about being tagged/knocked out and showing too much respect - Quigg wasn't really confident until he got properly tagged a couple of times by round 5-6 then he knew that Frampton didn't have the power to hurt him in any way and then boxed in an attacking way.
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Quigg shouldnt get a rematch he had his chance got the rest of his life to say 'what if' sily lad he would imho of won....Sadly I'm not sure any of Team Quigg are too bright - cost them!
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If you are being kind you can give Quigg the 7th imo. Which is why I have no idea how any judge scored that for Quigg.
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n88uk - if people don't award a 10-10 round for the first then fair enough it must be all but a redundant scoring method these days
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Often see it is sport the underdog gives too much respect to the favourite only to realise after 1/2 the contest there isnt much between them by this point some damage is already done.
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The point about Sky giving too may 10-10 rounds is a good one.
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had it 9-3 myself. could accept 8-4. frampton made him look average at best first half. quigg paid the price for that start nobody to blame but himself.
hearn delighted with the split decision as a rematch will be a cert now. |
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I scored it pretty much exactly the same as Froch and as he said, boxing is very subjective when it comes to scoring
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Hearn and Mcguigan behaved like coonts throughout this
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I agree n88uk I think they have both been exposed as not as good as the hype. There wiull be bigger boxing experts than me but Id be surprised if Frampton didnt get taged aby a better boxer it could have happened tonight.
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Agree Frampton isn't as good as the hype and Quigg is too one dimensional. The belief/hype around Frampton is actually quite delusional!
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anything below Light Welterweight is crap. Only reason people watched this is because it was a UK unification fight. it was as crap as i expected.
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Could you really make a rematch PPV? Certainly not with some sort of hype (ie. a lot of bouts for both in the interim with them looking exciting). I just don't see it selling anytime soon.
Fighters like Joshua will make the casual fan hate this sort of fight even more. Even if you don't think Joshua is all that (which I don't), he's certainly exciting and an easy sell. Rising the bar for other fights that need to be PPV. |
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^^^ northen ireland think I think, they have over done him. On a different issue the state of Jimmy Nesbit tonight.......
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now Froch has retired does Hearn have one decent fighter outside of Joshua?
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https://twitter.com/search?f=videos&vertical=default&q=Jimmy%20Nesbitt&src=tyah
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Well Brook, but he never fights anyone good.
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