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I don't think he'll be able to manage this. He is looking less stable every interview.
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Feb 27, 2016 -- 11:52PM, wisewords wrote:
would be seething if I'd bought it
I score it a draw but Frampton will get the win as the Golden Boy
Feb 27, 2016 -- 11:54PM, tobermory wrote:
Quigg would probably be fav for next fight
No way.
Frampton is so arrogant, thinks he's better than he is
frampton clearly struggled at the end and questions about his engine. Not impressed tbh. But a win's a win.
Feb 27, 2016 -- 11:57PM, Only-the-Brave wrote:
frampton clearly struggled at the end and questions about his engine. Not impressed tbh. But a win's a win.
yeh this, think hes going to have to move up
Don't really understand the 116-112 for Frampton. First round a draw, Frampton then landed more punches but mostly on the gloves until round 7 - a few of those were very hard to score so a few 10-10 rounds. Quigg clearly won the next 4 and Frampton won the last.
Feb 27, 2016 -- 11:57PM, Swagger wrote:
Don't really understand the 116-112 for Frampton. First round a draw, Frampton then landed more punches but mostly on the gloves until round 7 - a few of those were very hard to score so a few 10-10 rounds. Quigg clearly won the next 4 and Frampton won the last.
i have 115-113 and that was giving a 50/50 to Quigg.
That's the problem though, he's too small to move up - lomachenko for example would kill him.
Judges never score rounds draws unless someone won a round and got a point deducted. 10-10s are virtually never given.
crap fight and how someone can get 6 rounds ahead by looking 5% more aggressive (without hitting anything) baffles me.
Barrera v Morales it wasn't. Oh my God that was dull. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent fight. This is a sport that is on it's knees. How are all these mugs falling for this hype?
Go the distance was 5/4 to this. Don't know how the market buys into the "I'm going to knock you out" hype. How many of the big fights in the lower weight classes ever end in knockouts?
frampton calling out selby, think selby would beat him easuly
Quigg thought it was going to plan. So his plan was to give away the first 6 rounds doing nothing. If he hadn't done that he might have won.
A little similar to Eubanks Jr vs Saunders in that sense.
A little similar to Eubanks Jr vs Saunders in that sense.
frampton knew he had it done and dusted half an hour ago. coasted home, made the other lad look better.
Feb 27, 2016 -- 11:58PM, spyker wrote:
crap fight and how someone can get 6 rounds ahead by looking 5% more aggressive (without hitting anything) baffles me.
Because you are scoring it round by round. All the ring generalship, and taking of the fight was being done by Frampton.
Can't win rounds when you are throwing like 5 punches a round like Quigg was.
trainer actually saying he thought it was 2-2 after 4 rounds
Feb 28, 2016 -- 12:00AM, n88uk wrote:
Quigg thought it was going to plan. So his plan was to give away the first 6 rounds doing nothing. If he hadn't done that he might have won.A little similar to Eubanks Jr vs Saunders in that sense.
It was almost exactly like that fight, except Saunders was landing a bit more.
Doesn't matter if you are just nicking them by just being a little less crap than the other guy.
**** off talking about the achievement selling out the arena ffs. You lost dickhead.
**** off talking about the achievement selling out the arena ffs. You lost dickhead.
It's why I don't get Quigg was doing. To me he gave away the first 6 rounds without even trying to win them.
Which is similar to what Eubanks Jr did vs Saunders.
Which is similar to what Eubanks Jr did vs Saunders.
Feb 28, 2016 -- 12:02AM, Mike-lfc wrote:
*IFL tv
koogan!
His game plan seemed to be get it to the later rounds and knock him out, but that's a pretty crap game plan really as it means you can never win on points. Contributed to it being a crap fight, which makes a rematch far less attractive to be made. So just makes no real sense.
you could see quigg knew he'd lost, the corner knew he'd lost, family, friends, everyone knew he lost.
but good old boxing one of the judges thought he won.
but good old boxing one of the judges thought he won.
Feb 28, 2016 -- 12:04AM, n88uk wrote:
His game plan seemed to be get it to the later rounds and knock him out, but that's a pretty crap game plan really as it means you can never win on points. Contributed to it being a crap fight, which makes a rematch far less attractive to be made. So just makes no real sense.
sack his trainer?
His trainer won Ring magazine Trainer of the Year last year lol.
Boxing is you either lose or win a round. Quigg should have gone out and boxed and would have won. He handed 4-5 rounds to frampton by doing nothing. Simple his corner men are brain dead if they didnt see what was happening.
It just strikes me as one of those fights that surely you are going to have regrets if you do what Quigg did. He says he didn't, he thought it was even, or whatever spiel. But he has to know he wasn't doing all he good to win those early rounds. You have to pace yourself to an extent, but not to the extent you show no real interest in winning the round.
Any chance of a catch weight contest to end the evening's proceedings?
Am thinking James Nesbitt v Kell Brook.
Am thinking James Nesbitt v Kell Brook.
The judge who gave it to Quigg, scored Canelo vs Lara 117-111 Canelo which was complete bs too.
It does throw the scoring system into question though. You can split the fight into two halves.
The first half (1-6) was dull as feck. Neither fighter landed more than a couple of shots in the first 6 rounds. Fair enough Frampton won those rounds, probably 5-1 or maybe 4-2, whatever.
The second half of the fight saw about 5 times as many punches thrown. This was the only period of the fight where there was any chance of anyone getting knocked out. Quigg probably won this period of the fight 4-2 or 5-1.
Presumably the judges gave the first half to Frampton 5-1 and the second half to Quigg 4-2 but the rounds Quigg won he looked like he hurt Frampton. The rounds Frampton won he caused no damage.
The first half (1-6) was dull as feck. Neither fighter landed more than a couple of shots in the first 6 rounds. Fair enough Frampton won those rounds, probably 5-1 or maybe 4-2, whatever.
The second half of the fight saw about 5 times as many punches thrown. This was the only period of the fight where there was any chance of anyone getting knocked out. Quigg probably won this period of the fight 4-2 or 5-1.
Presumably the judges gave the first half to Frampton 5-1 and the second half to Quigg 4-2 but the rounds Quigg won he looked like he hurt Frampton. The rounds Frampton won he caused no damage.
eddie hearn had frampton by two. wtf gave that to quigg !!
I actually think it would have suited Quigg more to have gone to war from round 1.
Pretty sure the judges will have given all of the first 6 rounds to Frampton. I reckon the 116-112's probably had the same scorecard I did, ie. the first 7 rounds to Frampton, the next 4 to Quigg, and the last round to Frampton.
Most the Quigg rounds (at least 3) were pretty clear, and so was the last round to Frampton. So to get 116-112 you basically have to have scored it that way.
Most the Quigg rounds (at least 3) were pretty clear, and so was the last round to Frampton. So to get 116-112 you basically have to have scored it that way.
Fair enough if people thought Frampton won but all joking aside how anyone could score the first round to Frampton is just beyond belief. He threw a couple of jabs which landed on the gloves - nobody landed anything clean so it had to be a split round
Because he was the only who tried to do anything and judges are encouraged not to sit on the fence and give 10-10 rounds. TV (well Sky) give way more 10-10s than are actually ever given.
I do know how to score a fight n88! I just didn't give frampton every round of the first 6. I could easily see quigg winning a rematch - which if somebody wins by 4 you shouldn't be able to say!
But I don't see how anyone can give Quigg a single round from the first 6.
It's the old classic of a boxer being worried about being tagged/knocked out and showing too much respect - Quigg wasn't really confident until he got properly tagged a couple of times by round 5-6 then he knew that Frampton didn't have the power to hurt him in any way and then boxed in an attacking way.
Quigg shouldnt get a rematch he had his chance got the rest of his life to say 'what if' sily lad he would imho of won....Sadly I'm not sure any of Team Quigg are too bright - cost them!
If you are being kind you can give Quigg the 7th imo. Which is why I have no idea how any judge scored that for Quigg.
n88uk - if people don't award a 10-10 round for the first then fair enough it must be all but a redundant scoring method these days
Often see it is sport the underdog gives too much respect to the favourite only to realise after 1/2 the contest there isnt much between them by this point some damage is already done.
The point about Sky giving too may 10-10 rounds is a good one.
had it 9-3 myself. could accept 8-4. frampton made him look average at best first half. quigg paid the price for that start nobody to blame but himself.
hearn delighted with the split decision as a rematch will be a cert now.
hearn delighted with the split decision as a rematch will be a cert now.
I scored it pretty much exactly the same as Froch and as he said, boxing is very subjective when it comes to scoring
Feb 28, 2016 -- 12:18AM, Howdi wrote:
Quigg shouldnt get a rematch he had his chance got the rest of his life to say 'what if' sily lad he would imho of won....Sadly I'm not sure any of Team Quigg are too bright - cost them!
Problem I have is outside Frampton's hardcore fanbase, who wants to see this again. It wasn't a good enough fight to want to see it again. I think from a selling point of view, Hearn would have a tough time to sell it again unless he goes to Belfast or something, just because I'm not sure you can get casual interest in this again, as I doubt many of them thought it was a good fight tonight.
Hearn and Mcguigan behaved like coonts throughout this
I agree n88uk I think they have both been exposed as not as good as the hype. There wiull be bigger boxing experts than me but Id be surprised if Frampton didnt get taged aby a better boxer it could have happened tonight.
Agree Frampton isn't as good as the hype and Quigg is too one dimensional. The belief/hype around Frampton is actually quite delusional!
anything below Light Welterweight is crap. Only reason people watched this is because it was a UK unification fight. it was as crap as i expected.
Could you really make a rematch PPV? Certainly not with some sort of hype (ie. a lot of bouts for both in the interim with them looking exciting). I just don't see it selling anytime soon.
Fighters like Joshua will make the casual fan hate this sort of fight even more. Even if you don't think Joshua is all that (which I don't), he's certainly exciting and an easy sell. Rising the bar for other fights that need to be PPV.
Fighters like Joshua will make the casual fan hate this sort of fight even more. Even if you don't think Joshua is all that (which I don't), he's certainly exciting and an easy sell. Rising the bar for other fights that need to be PPV.
^^^ northen ireland think I think, they have over done him. On a different issue the state of Jimmy Nesbit tonight.......
now Froch has retired does Hearn have one decent fighter outside of Joshua?
https://twitter.com/search?f=videos&vertical=default&q=Jimmy%20Nesbitt&src=tyah
**** fight between two **** fighters. Yet again the mugs who have paid for the fight will be wondering how the fell for the hype. All this fight shoes is the poor state the American and Mexican game is in if these two nomarks can be world champions.
^^^^ james nesbit getting a bollocking at the start of the fight
Brook really needs to start fighting elite opposition though. Him fighting mugs is getting boring, if he doesn't get a big fight this summer I'm virtually giving up on him.
Can't have another year of "the next fight could be Khan", move on, fight someone else.
Can't have another year of "the next fight could be Khan", move on, fight someone else.
check out that link Jimmy Nesbit getting a rollocking at start of the fight
Hearn does have a number of decent fighters.
I mean DeGale is probably the best in what is now a very weak division.
I mean DeGale is probably the best in what is now a very weak division.
DeGales division like the champion hurdle at Cheltenham, this year.
Selby, Mcdonnell are also good fighters. Even if they don't really sell at all.
We're still left with what big fight is Hearn going to try and make for the summer. Not easy to see right now. Pretty sure everything next year is going to be geared towards Fury vs Joshua, probably with about 5 episodes of will it, won't happen, before it does.
I can't believe I paid for that shiite. Quigg was fuucking dreadful. Froze for the first 8 rounds until he finally woke up. Frampton deserved the win without having to do anything. They are truly a million miles away from Rigondeuax.
Total piish.
Total piish.
Feb 28, 2016 -- 12:25AM, Mike-lfc wrote:
anything below Light Welterweight is crap. Only reason people watched this is because it was a UK unification fight. it was as crap as i expected.
Naseem Hamed.
No one will be afraid of fighting Frampton that's for sure as he needs to step up a hell of a lot (immeasurably in my eyes) if he fights anybody genuinely on the world stage.
quigg should be embarrassed with that showing last night, frampton won without getting out of second gear. the judge that give it to quigg mustve had more drink than jimmy nesbitt ffs.
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