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10 Oct 13
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I'm going for Dinamita rounds 9-12
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Struggling to call this one myself. You have to fancy Bradly if it goes to the cards after the Manny fiasco.
But speaking of Manny, Marquez has 12 rounds to find one of them atomic bombs that, for a minute, I thought had seriously injured Manny. Will Marquez' age finally catch up with him though? Probably a stupid bet (i'm not the greatest gambler), but I was thinking of backing both Bradley by decision at 7/4 and not go the distance at 2/1. Thought being that that if it goes the distance, Bradley will get it on the cards and if it doesn't, Marquez will win anyway as I just can't see Bradley hurting Marquez bad. |
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I put a speculative accum months ago that's only waiting on this an redding in the moto2, i'm not confident on either
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JMM. As much as it was a candidate for FOTY lets be brutally honest here Provodkin on what he has done before is pretty dire. Bradley got his ass whooped V Manny and was pi ss poor against Casamayor. The last time he looked any good was V Devon. He said he had concussion and his speech was still slurred two months after Ruslan.
Age may catch up with JMM but he still has Angel Herdeia there and at 11-4 it s not like you are playing a short price him to get it done inside |
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jmm juiced to the eyeballs must be worth a punt
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go away you sad fkin virgin please
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Who are the judges for this? Marquez looks huge to me if you can just there to be no screwjob (a big if though).
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Say what you want about Bradley but he is tough, has heart and finds a way to win. I wouldn't dismiss Over 2.5 comments too lightly either - a lot of eyebrows were raised at JMM's new found physique at the age of 40!
Wouldn't be a surprise to see Bradley get another squeaky tight decision. |
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scamboogah knows
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Marquez looked a step slower against Pac last time till he landed the finisher. Will he be older again or will another 10 months with Heredia have him better than ever?
Is Bradley damaged goods, can he box smart or outwork Heredia's Juan? Does Bradley get it on the cards or is Juan the house fighter, with Bob eyeing up a big money 5th fight against Pac in Mexico maybe? Too many questions that I haven't got the answers for. I don't even know how the fight takes places tactically, whether it's Bradley or Marquez who goes searching, whether they meet in the middle and go to war or whether it turns out to be a tactical, cagey affair. Nothing heavy for me here, maybe play the draw for a bit of interest. Good luck lads |
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good post duke
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The draw is the only play for me, who knows what scores will get turned in.
28/1 is more than fair. |
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No way they'll do this again, terrible main event in terms of bringing in the bucks to start. Didn't even support it with a decent undercard, worst PPV I've ever seen.
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See the comments made by BN on the history of the "conditioning" coach brought by team JMM in 2011.
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is everyone forgetting how much damage bradley took in the last fight? and his condition after the fight? the man could be damaged goods against a man who (watch24-7) is hitting like a freight train! i think 11-4 is a big play although i think itll come in the latter rounds as bradley gets worn down a lot like the diaz fight!
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I agree Boyd. I'm happy to take on Bradley at 11-4 with headbutt insurance. Ruslan is very very average on what he has done pre Bradley.
Horangi the undercard is fine |
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Agree too, Bradley struggled badly against an average Provodnikov, he was out on his feet in a couple of rounds. You have to wonder what the accurate and heavy handed Marquez can do to him if he's still got scars left over from that fight!
We all know Tim's not shy in using the head so i like the 2/1 fight not to go the distance as it covers a multitude of possibilities. Going to watch the Provodnikov fight again later before making my mind up though. Ive already had a small bet on Orlando Salido rounds 1-6 vs Cruz. Think Cruz is a level or 2 below Siri and he's been stopped early both times he's been up in class (vs Locke and De Leon). Cant see Salido wanting to let Cruz get a foot hold in the fight and establish a jab and some confidence. Think Salido comes out early with plenty of heat and will look to get it over with. Got 3/1 with Paddys where the other 2 books are 7/4 and 2/1. |
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JMM inside for me too, few quid on the draw
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Some of you need to stop analyzing the Bradley/Provo fight like it was a normal type fight. Bradley lost his mind (probably due to all the hate he got from the Pac man backlash) and decided to go toe to toe with Provo for the first few rounds like a maniac. When he finally realized he couldn't bang with Provo he easily outboxed him the rest of the way. Did get caught late on but the man had taken bad damage earlier in the fight so he was really lucky his conditioning was still good enough for 12 rounds.
sj not sure what you mean when you say the undercard is fine, fine by ESPN FNF standards maybe. This PPV will do atrocious numbers, Bradley with no fan base and Marquez fans probably not even excited with this bout. The undercard has no front line marketable talent at all and is generally very poor. ffs one of the three undercard fights isn't even being lined up by the bookies. To supplement a weak main event with an equally weak undercard is farcical. Worst PPV of all time on the cards. |
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Horangi. 12 Oct 13 16:48 Joined: 26 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 7,661 | Blogger: Horangi.'s blog
Some of you need to stop analyzing the Bradley/Provo fight like it was a normal type fight. Bradley lost his mind (probably due to all the hate he got from the Pac man backlash) and decided to go toe to toe with Provo for the first few rounds like a maniac. When he finally realized he couldn't bang with Provo he easily outboxed him the rest of the way. Did get caught late on but the man had taken bad damage earlier in the fight so he was really lucky his conditioning was still good enough for 12 rounds. sj not sure what you mean when you say the undercard is fine, fine by ESPN FNF standards maybe. This PPV will do atrocious numbers, Bradley with no fan base and Marquez fans probably not even excited with this bout. The undercard has no front line marketable talent at all and is generally very poor. ffs one of the three undercard fights isn't even being lined up by the bookies. To supplement a weak main event with an equally weak undercard is farcical. Worst PPV of all time on the cards. Yeah I mean who is Double Olympic and World Champion Vasyl Lomachenko. Defo no front line marketable talent in the fact that the kid could be fighting for a world title in just his second fight. You've got a world title fight on the undercard and an exciting fight in Monaghan V Smith. Plus that unknown with not marketable talent in Lomachenko. If you dont believe the US fans are excited to see this kid then I must be seeing something very different |
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As for Bradley Horangi the last time he looked any good was V Alexander and the bloke is hardly a up on his toes merchant pumping the jab out staying out of the way at his best
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backed bradley again.want to see him lose.if not ill take it and will keep backing the cretin
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got some 3-1 with korals! More than happy with that! Agree about provo being over rated and on that 5/6 ALVARADO is HUGE!!! and on this fight when bradleys hears the crowd constantly cheering every MARQUEZ punch that MASSIVE CHIP on his shoulder isnt going to come out and hes not going to start swinging?
Fact is if MARQUEZ hurts him he'll finish him, i have no doubt about that... Been watching 24/7 and the punching power hes showing looks frightening. People who knock the theory that bradley could be damaged goods, on the basis that he's only had 1 war whereas alot of fighters including marquez have had plenty... I'm not sure marquez has ever slurred his words days after the fight and imm not sure marquez has ever been hurt liek bradley was ... i mean the ref could of stopped it on the first knock down when he fell over...I may be wrong but think this will develop into a war and bradley cant hurt marquez, marquez will take him out!!! |
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ps i must admit to of never seen lomachenko or however u spell it lol i no hes a double gold medalist? i think? and theres big talk he'll transfer well to the pros unlike someone liek shimming.. is he as gd as the talk?
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As as already been said the 2 biggest things for me are Bradley's mental and physical state. Surely he should have had a tune up to make sure everything was alright.
The other thing is JMM. He's looking more and more a freak and listening to some interviews with himself and his camp the confidence is staggering, as if they think he could KO a Froch with what he's doing. Absolutely stinks. It could turn out into a right non-event but I think Bradley will not be able to stick to a plan without getting involved and I can see him getting stopped mid rounds, but only a small bet for me. |
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sj I'm at a loss of words as you defend this undercard. ffs nobody except the very hardcore boxing fan even knows who Lomachenko is, its his first pro fight ffs. He's in there against a warm body, this is a tune up for a tune up. I sort of follow boxing and I've never even heard of Monaghan and his opponent, I guess the linesmakers share my sentiment as you can't even get a price on that fight.
Abysmal ppv number are guaranteed, they will badly lie just to make the numbers just bad. |
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I read it was basically a ghost town for the weigh in yesterday.
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JMM price drifting on the match odds
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Price has rectified itself now trading 1.78
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What time do we expect this to start??
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Bradley will school Marquez, a boxing lesson.
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Odds should be the other way around or even tighter in Bradley`s favour.
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This will be easy money.
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who do you fancy mac
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The underdog bito.
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Horangi.
Horangi. 12 Oct 13 19:42 Joined: 26 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 7,663 | Blogger: Horangi.'s blog sj I'm at a loss of words as you defend this undercard. ffs nobody except the very hardcore boxing fan even knows who Lomachenko is, its his first pro fight ffs. He's in there against a warm body, this is a tune up for a tune up. I sort of follow boxing and I've never even heard of Monaghan and his opponent, I guess the linesmakers share my sentiment as you can't even get a price on that fight. Abysmal ppv number are guaranteed, they will badly lie just to make the numbers just bad. Each to their own. I'm excited to see a great V a undefeated fighter. Happy to see on of the greatest natural talents for many a year a world title fight and two crowd pleasers although not great in quality in Monaghan V Smith. Just cos part time odds compliers cant be ar sed to price it up doesnt make it a bad fight |
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anyone fancy a naked group hug
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I'll leave that to the UFC boys
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what we thinking bout salido vs cruz?
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