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Hi all after lastnights fight I struggle to see how anyone would ever have beaten him,for me personally Floyd has improved constantly and his defence and reactions to the punch make him almost unhittable.
I actually became a fan of his after the Hatton fight where I admittedly lost a lot of money backing Hatton.At the time Hatton was simply untouchable in my eyes .What shocked me was the third round of the fight where Mayweather had completely worked out Hattons movements totally controlling the fight after an early scare.Yeah I seen the Corrales fight in 2001 where the guy was an undefeated champion and got outclassed but something changed for me after the Hatton fight.
About three years ago I came to the conclusion Mayweathers foot movement was off ,hoe wrong was I when he fought Cotto at 154 he actually looked phenomenal rarely taking a solid punch constantly goading Cotto who at the time was undefeated at 154.Before that the masterclass with Marquez making even me consider Marquez was shot...yet again how wrong was I .Marquez at 25 would have found exactly the same problem he had as he just could not hit the guy.
Lastnight I was very concerned on the basis Canelo the guy the Mexicans call god in many parts would come in over a stone heavier and outfight Floyd,tghe fight looked a mismatch I scored it 9 rounds to 1.Two drawn with Canelo looking like a lost puppy constantly struggling and getting countered with every attempt he made.....Team money did not choose a fellow Mexican before Canelo for no reason they knew they would get a lot more haters to tune in and cheer Canelo on especially from the Mexican side.
I don't believe anyone can beat him at 147 ......154 he will be fine aswell.Pacman is an awesome fighter and before his vicious ko to Marquez he was first to every punch and Marquez looked like he was on peds.It will be the same again tho he will be outclassed by the Mayweather.
Notice the hand on the side of the head giving him balance when moving out of the way he is a brilliant boxer.
Garcia shocked me aswell good on him he fought a great fight lastnight first to every exchange.
Over2.5 wouldn't have seen the boxing as he cant afford boxnation bless him.....good job you bottled my bet ma boy hahahahahahaha
I actually became a fan of his after the Hatton fight where I admittedly lost a lot of money backing Hatton.At the time Hatton was simply untouchable in my eyes .What shocked me was the third round of the fight where Mayweather had completely worked out Hattons movements totally controlling the fight after an early scare.Yeah I seen the Corrales fight in 2001 where the guy was an undefeated champion and got outclassed but something changed for me after the Hatton fight.
About three years ago I came to the conclusion Mayweathers foot movement was off ,hoe wrong was I when he fought Cotto at 154 he actually looked phenomenal rarely taking a solid punch constantly goading Cotto who at the time was undefeated at 154.Before that the masterclass with Marquez making even me consider Marquez was shot...yet again how wrong was I .Marquez at 25 would have found exactly the same problem he had as he just could not hit the guy.
Lastnight I was very concerned on the basis Canelo the guy the Mexicans call god in many parts would come in over a stone heavier and outfight Floyd,tghe fight looked a mismatch I scored it 9 rounds to 1.Two drawn with Canelo looking like a lost puppy constantly struggling and getting countered with every attempt he made.....Team money did not choose a fellow Mexican before Canelo for no reason they knew they would get a lot more haters to tune in and cheer Canelo on especially from the Mexican side.
I don't believe anyone can beat him at 147 ......154 he will be fine aswell.Pacman is an awesome fighter and before his vicious ko to Marquez he was first to every punch and Marquez looked like he was on peds.It will be the same again tho he will be outclassed by the Mayweather.
Notice the hand on the side of the head giving him balance when moving out of the way he is a brilliant boxer.
Garcia shocked me aswell good on him he fought a great fight lastnight first to every exchange.
Over2.5 wouldn't have seen the boxing as he cant afford boxnation bless him.....good job you bottled my bet ma boy hahahahahahaha
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He's the best P4P of the last 25 years by a country mile. I was too young to remember other greats and it's always hard to compare generations as well so lets just enjoy him while he's here.
People who complain that he's dull and boring actually don't understand boxing fully. His movement and shot selection last night as breathtaking and like most opponents Alvarez just got frustrated at throwing and constantly missing. This is a guy who's considered to be in the top 5 fighters out there just now and he got made to look thoroughly average. Boxing is all about levels and Floyd has nobody who can get near his |
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It's all about styles making fights with these fantasy match-up's but I don't can anyone see who's style he'd fail to shutdown? Think he'd have caught Hearns flush too easily and dropped him, schooled Duran and out skilled Leonard. Most effective and unbeatable welterweight I've ever seen.
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There was a passage last night when Canelo hunted him down into a corner and threw a cluster of punches and never landed a thing. Suddenly Floyd threw a left, right, left combo and all 3 found the mark and he was out of there. His skills are just incredible
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PMSL PMSL PMSL!!
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most boring welterweight in history.. and the biggest cherrypicker
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You Mayweather nuthuggers are unreal!!
He's a modern-day great. Hes not in the class of those fighters u mentioned Duke out-skilled Leonard he says?!!  |
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outskilled leonard
 he wouldnt have fought one of them in that era even to begin with |
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Easily he is by far the best ever .The funny thing is he now bounced both opponents you said he would NEVER face round.Cotto and Canelo he took the mick out them both really .xxxx
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fought cotto at 4 years too late when he knew he was washed up... and had to make a catchweight with canelo. two nothing victories
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3 words will define his career, no matter what the fangirls say
DIDNT FIGHT PACQUAIO |
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^^^ EVERYONE OF MY MATES SAID THAT LAST NIGHT.. THATS WILL HE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR.. QUITE SAD REALLY
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in 50 years people will be talking about him as the best ever. that is what happens. fighters get glorified after they have retired. the fab 4 were no better than floyd imo and people will in time give floyd the massive credit he deserves. he'll never be beaten that's for sure.
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Hope he fights Pacquiao at Welter & Golovkin at light middle. Not saying either will beat him but no other fights of interest. Who wants to see him fight Marquez again, Alexander, Bradley, Khan or Garcia?
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The image of Pac that jumps out for me is him laying face down in his own slobber last time out.
You do realise Over that you go on and on about Floyd being a joke, but you're the posting equivalent of Uzzy Ahmed. You don't see it at all do you? What was that promoter friend called again? |
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Broner for me or Martinez at 154
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Absolute masterclass last night his defence is unreal. But why does Khans name keep getting mentioned as a potential next fight? Floyd wants to fight in England but him fighting Khan would be hilarious.
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Khan at Wembley gets mentioned but it is just talk at the minute.
Khan has to get past Alexander & then the proposed dates for Floyd next year (May & Sept)wouldnt work for Wembley I don think. |
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Khan at Wembley gets mentioned but it is just talk at the minute.
Khan has to get past Alexander & then the proposed dates for Floyd next year (May & Sept)wouldnt work for Wembley I don think. |
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he still would duck pacman even now
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Cotto was washed up ????????????????.
What a prized idiot you really are he looked washed up as did ya other mate Canelo. What is your promoter friend called ????? |
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Are we talking pound for pound or at welter? Not pound for pound in my view. Top 10 for sure and possibly the best within recent memory with a peak Jones giving him a run for his money. Not being wise after the event because I reviewed the Trout fight last night and made my comments. I thought Canelo lost to Trout and no way did he ever have the speed to counter Mayweather.
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Not for me. Excptional fighter and the best of this era by a mile, but the fact he retired and he did avoid the Welter class of 2008 cant be ignored.
Duran beats him and Leonard would beat him for me, and there will never be another Sugar Ray Robinson |
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sj spot on again...
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so you now agree Floyd Mayweather is the best of this era by a mile
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Can't state how highly I rate the man but to say he'd beat the best lightweight ever, the notion that Duran is just a high class slugger, Duran's defence was top class he'd take so much off the shots just by turning his head slightly or riding the shot.
He jumped upto Welterweight and beat the unbeatable Leonard he crushes unbeaten Davey Moore at light middle in 7 jumps up again to Middleweight to fight Hagler(would be like Floyd going upto fight a top class fully proven GGG(with no catchweight) and just goes down on points. Was leading going into the 14th round by the way. Hagler was coming off 7th straight KO'S and would be the first time he goes the distance as champ. Duran began as a lightweight and fought top class Middles, you'd argue the Middlewight resume alone of Duran is better than anything Floyd has fought and that s not knocking It's too difficult to say if he beats the 4 simply cos they all fought each other. But I just cant have anyone being up there with Ray Robinson apart from great defence, he is Floyd but with much harder punching power and more ferocity |
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I guess for some guys talking about the 80's is ancient history and talk of Robinson is just beyond comprehension. Two things. Styles make fights and for me of those fighters Duran just had the perfect style to break Mayweather down. As for Robinson from memory I think he had something like three times more fights than Mayweather before he even tasted defeat and he fought a lot of good welters in that time.
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In short if you love the game you owe it to yourself to study the greats from history. You may be surprised just how good some of them were at a time when a massive percentage of the western worlds young men boxed. Shiit. Even France produced decent fighters.
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mayweather got lucky in his era.. very lucky and he milked it so for that i give him credit. as for him fighting duran
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Brain cells is back. Have you changed your under wear yet?
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Eeternaloptimist 16 Sep 13 00:07 Joined: 28 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 19,965 | Blogger: Eeternaloptimist's blog
I guess for some guys talking about the 80's is ancient history and talk of Robinson is just beyond comprehension. Two things. Styles make fights and for me of those fighters Duran just had the perfect style to break Mayweather down. As for Robinson from memory I think he had something like three times more fights than Mayweather before he even tasted defeat and he fought a lot of good welters in that time. great post mate. Think people believe Duran is a high rated slugger because of his demanour outside the ring. He knew every trick in the book and some inside. Great footspeed to close the distance, his ability to turn a fighter on the ropes is the best I've ever seen. He was really special just a freak era with those. The era is that rich people rarely bring up one of my favourites THE RADAR Bentiez |
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That's exactly it sj. Plenty of fighters have the hand speed to trouble Mayweather but for me the crucial factor is the ability that Duran had to use his feet wisely and quickly.
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There is always an argument being the greatest ever,but for a fighter to be on the top of his game with a perfect record and being judged just now as a great says he is a little bit special.he is making very good fighters look very ordinary
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Yeah he could slip slide and counter fighters with as quick as Ray Leonard he was unreal.
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There was a programme on one of the ESPN channels a couple of years ago where Bert Sugar gave a rundown of his all-time greatest fighters. Sugar Ray Robinson was no. 1 and I don't think Mayweather even got a mention.
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Imagine if Duran had smashed one of those body shots into Mayweather. Ouch. |
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He is the best, but hopefully pac n him get it on
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Mayweather would of schooled Duran. An easy nights work. Sugar Ray Leonard would of been a good test but again Mayweather wins. Hagler v Mayweather - Mayweather wins. Hearns v Mayweather - Mayweather wins. See a theme happening here. It doesn't matter who you put in the ring with him he will make them look ordinary and that goes for all the past greats and im not some mayweather fanboy, i do think he dodged manny but also think he would of beaten manny
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^ agreed
i always find it funny how old timers go on about how older fighters would have dominated floyd. |
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oh ffs sake I've heard it all now. Mayweather would have beaten a peak Hagler.
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