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Think Cunningham is huge @ 4 to beat fury, not sold on him at all still. Will be having my max bet on Cunningham... also think alcine vs rose @ 11-4 is way way to big... anyone agree?
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Certainly some big prices out there.
Zaveck at 7/1 seems huge seen as Thurman hasn't been tested yet. |
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Cloud inside at 5-1 with headbutt insurance
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Thurman is a beast, I think cloud inside is a decent shout, hopkins punch resistance isn't what it was although he's so savy
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Wind your neck in
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can't have Cunningham beating Fury, just too small, saw an interview with Nazim Richardson and even he looked a bit doubtful about the size difference.
Not seen much to get stuck in to at the moment, had a tiny treble this evening Barker/Purdy/Cloud all inside @ around 20s. Waiting for prices for a couple of fights on 30th March, hoping for a bit of value in Rios-Alvarado 2 in particular. |
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Somebody finally had a stab at Bellew chilemba I see, 1/2 the bomber, 13/8 chilemba. ..probably about right taking everything into consideration? Neither price tempting for me so probably just watch and enjoy what should be a cracking scrap. Still no prices for bam bam
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Alverado 7-2 and chilemba 9-4 think ill be playing outsiders again... not sure on chilemba defo on alverado tho he was bossing that fight ... couldnt dream of backing bam bam 1-5
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Bellew and Chilemba look pretty evenly matched but home advantage eats into the value of the 9/4 too much for my liking, might play a bit on either fighter inside the distance, that cut tony got last time was as nasty as you'll see and Chilemba ducks in with his head quite a bit.
Alvarado bossing the first fight? No way, not for me. Take a look at the faces of both men at the end of the first round, Rios smiling away looking like he's in his element, Alvarado trying to put a brave face on but looking like he's in way deeper than he wants to be. Alvarado did do slightly better than I expected but honestly think he had to put up the fight of his life to stay in there whereas it was just another day in the office for Rios. I actually think its a pretty pointless rematch for both men, Bam Bam to blast him away early for me this time. Said before the first fight the only way Alvarado could win is by outboxing Rios on the outside and he hasn't got the skills to pull it off. think 3/10 is great value actually but not really my kind of price so waiting for the MOV and round betting. |
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I had Alavardo 58-56 at the time of stoppage 1st fight, but the problem he's got will now be a mental one. He couldnt of stuck to the game-plan any better for his skills set(never a boxer in a million years) and Rios still got to him.
You need to be one of two things to beat Rios, a slick boxer or real banger Mike sadly is neither |
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Bellew looks bloody awful as usual at the press conference, can't keep boiling down like that. I'm starting to get tempted by the Chilemba price
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Bellew always makes me laugh "I'm gonna do this do that" He very rarely puts his foot down
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yeah he's certainly more intimidating in the pressers than in the ring. I quite like the lad though, hope he can pull it off.
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article on boxing scene about bam bam working with Heredia
wish they'd just run the bloke out of the sport. |
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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 Imagine BAM BAM + ANGEL  |
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sj no way Alvarado followed his game plan last fight. Look at the 5th round, which he dominated. In the last 15-20 seconds for no reason he goes toe to toe in a wild swinging machismo battle. Total lack of discipline. Yeah Alvarado is by no means a slick boxer but he has enough boxing ability to tame the very one dimensional Rios.
It is concerning for Alvarado backers that Rios is with one of these "conditioning" coaches. |
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You've got to stand now and then mate. Otherwise the other fighter will just keep rolling forward, and you get a Cotto Margarito I type situation minus the plaster. 1-2% of fighters can fight off the back foot all night Alvarado isnt one of them.
I dont think he can do any better game-plan wise saturday night wouldnt be the first time I'm wrong though |
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don't think he'll get the chance to show a different game plan think Brandons gonna walk right through him and the damage incurred last time will ensure he folds quicker this time.
Rios gets a lot of stick for being one-dimensional..I prefer to call it one-directional ...forwards! and amen to that  |
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Boxnation now got it live,must say boxnation is not letting boxing fans down.How can anyone knock this for a tenner a month.
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Yeah when you think Mitchell and Vasquez made Prescott look silly when outboxing him, and Alvarado needed a last rnd KO to win. He's far from a good boxer
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Ability to box successfully is usually based on movement. Styles make fights. Prescott had better speed/movement and was able to control distance against Alvarado. In this case Alvarez has the better movement and can do the same against Rios if he has the stamina.
Rios badly needs to improve his core conditioning as he simply stumbles forward and eats waay too many shots in the process. The amount of punishment this guy takes is almost worrying. |
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Oh yeah when Rios goes he will go big, but there is no sign of that happening yet and unless you're a elite Boxer sooner or later you're gonna have to hold your feet to keep him off.
If Prescott has better speed and movement than you then you really are struggling on the Boxing skills front |
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Ok what i meant was that when mike was boxing he was in control but as others have said he seemed to then get involved at times for no real reason and thats when bam came into it.. The problem is it is very hard to discourage bam bam but as we saw when he clearly lost to abril can be done. I think alverado thought he had to do more than he was doing when really what he was doing was fine. I can see bam bam stopping him and getting to him again and i may play this depending on price, as think it is conceivable that he'll just walk through him. I agree with SJ in that the problem could be mental now as its very off putting when you've given out so much punishment and then the guy comes back smiling and knocks you out that has to be hard as he had in my opinion given his best performance in a ring by far. Reason ui want to take on bellew is same as fury, there hype jobs. Fury in my opinion is not very good and i believe he is chinny, i think steve will beat him. Back to bellew he hasnt beaten anyone, he's not the biggest puncher, I dont no to much on chilemba but going to do some homework, just get a feeling bellew is going to come unstuck soon, only problem is he will have massive home advantage and chilemba cant punch on all known.... ps anyone giving guerrero a small chance?
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personally prepared to put the Abril showing down to weight problems, Rios really does look massive out of training, lightweight must have half killed him.
For me Guerrero is a definite bet at 7/1, the lay offs have got to catch up with floyd some day and the ghost not the sort of person you want to find yourself getting old in the ring with. |
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The only thing I would change to Mike's gameplan is not throw as many(it might of been part of the plan so Rios couldnt get set) and sit down on a few more to give Rios a lot to think about on the way in.
Mike's punch output was through the roof he was hitting the 100's per round. Honestly though he's 32 Rios 26 I just see everything against him, but I never knock anyone for putting up those sort of prices espeically with reasoning as well. Good luck to everyone with their bets |
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I'm going over for Floyd ACD
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have a good un mate, got any strong opinion on it?
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Hard to discourage a bet on Guerrero at 7-1+ but personally won't bother. Guerrero is a B fighter, period. He has beaten nobody near A level and this is only his second fight not at lightweight. It is another cherry pick for Team Mayweather, honestly who has Guerrero beaten? He was outclassed by Orlando Salido ffs. Life and death with Rios poor man Selcuk Aydin.
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Not really mate. cant make my mind up on Robert excellent last time, but really struggled with Aydin. Make a change that I can go over and relax when watching a fight, rather than running out the arena screaming if Cotto gets a hiding
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boyles gone 4/5 rios ko...that'll do me for starters.
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Great shout Horangi and Boyd really well done
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yep well done lads, was reaching for the holiday brochures in round 2
 I really underestimated Alvarado, didn't think he had that in him. |
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Cheers SJ gutted tho feel got all fights pretty much spot on bellew overrated, alverado underestimated, crolla the ko was there...But still lost a packet bit hard to take. Just thank full i didnt go in on the chase on rios ko lol. Ps did anyone see the kid forgot his name against prescott crawford think was his name. Could be a future star befuddled prescott nulified his power electrioc hands, decent power especially if goes back to 135 that could could be empty now, maturity far above his own age and to take a step up from no one to a very dangerous huge for the weight big puncher was so so impressive. seen rosado vs love has been made can see upset there not overly impressed with love.
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