Mitchell VS Burns

Glad to see John Simpson getting a bit of profile. Been so unlucky throughout his career.

paying over 70 quid for sky subs & hd box without paying for box nation.
disgrace why this fight not on sky.

Ive got Mccloskey on boxing guru but not this fight.Anyone else got it?

that`s per month btw.

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22 Sep 12 21:15 Joined: 06 May 03 | Topic/replies: 3,556 | Blogger: mactheknife's blog
paying over 70 quid for sky subs & hd box without paying for box nation.
disgrace why this fight not on sky.


Because warren is boxnation

mac if you have cable you can get a magic box and get boxnation and primetime for nothing.

cant even watch this dross on sky want to see ricky in action.

have the full sky subs with hd box m8.

quit moaning and just get a stream going

must be a stream somewhere.

sopcast 122096

http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/135745_ricky_burns_kevin_mitchell/

Harrisonis meant to fight the winner lol are they just passing the belt around glasgow and tparts of the uk for a few year.Harrison is struggling to last 6 rounds hes fcked

british title level fight dressed up as a world title fight for me this one.  Mitchell could nick it on the cards.

Whats Harrison doing 6 rounds for if he wants to fight for world titles thats surely a joke.He didnt even hurt the guy he was fighting

Great - the Frampton/Molitor fight at the same time as this.

Oh well come on Ricky!!!!

What a fight this is going to be... that 1st round was about as level as you could get... absolute Battle of Britain.

Ricky may lack power but no way is he feather fisted

This could be a cracker

Burns is boxing fantastically

Im on Burns but backing draw incase as wouldnt like to lose on a draw

impressed with burns

Who is the commentator doesn't know who is who?

BBOOOOOOOOOOOOM

went down easy there

killllll him

RIIIIIIIIIIIICKKKKKYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hugely impressive

who's down?

Mitchell got woooped

Too ****g easy. Who needs more than one meaningful fight when fighting Mitchell.

OVER

BURNS BY STOPPAGE

Back to the skunk weed and beer for poor Mitchell...

must have been about a second before the bell was going to go

that's a stunning result!

Hopefully Ricky will start to get the credit on here he deserves.

He battered Mitchell make no mistake.

hahba 2 mins 59 secs of R4 official

Surprised he didn't stop after 2nd KD. Gave him every opportunity.

Well done Ricky.  I had a go at Alex Arthur during the week as he stated it was a 50 - 50 fight.  I told Alex there was only one winner in this and it was for the man from Coatbridge.

sj - Are u going to give Burns any credit as a boxer after that tonite??

Is Harrison seriously next up?

Well done Ricky Burns.

For Ricky??

Harrison will need to have at least another couple of fight to see where he is.

I am stunned i never thought he would stop mitchell, he will move up now he is huge for the weight where and who next....

Boom! Great stuff Ricky

To be fair to Mitchell Ricky looked massively bigger, you could tell by Rickys reaction in the corner at the end of the 1st round he knew he had the beating of him.

The step up in weight has took him to a new level.

Kriskin 22 Sep 12 23:03 Joined: 08 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 8,460 | Blogger: Kriskin's blog
For Ricky??


Yeah Thats what ive been reading haha got to be jokers

Kriskin what are you talking about? I've credited the lad plenty just becuase you're such a sage and backed him and me and Arthur didnt doesnt mean we dont like the Rickster. We just aint as knowledgable as you

c'mon sj credit where its due you haven't rated the lad and he was bang impressive tonight.

so who next folks this tw@t Broner perhaps

sj - u stated on this thread that u don't rate Ricky.

you should read back what you wrote sj

who expected burn to do that, although i did know about 20 secs into round 2 he was gonna win, unless Mitchell ahs lost all his wits and skill that was impressive

but who is he gonna fihgt not Scott harrison now surely

All the aftertimers thought he would mate. I wish people would read all I wrote was I couldnt back him at 8-13 after one world class performance not if those in question could point out anymore let me know.
Didnt Mitchell get blown away in3 by Katsidis? Just checking?

I dont belive this getting berated for not backing Burns at 8-13. LOL. Fu ck posting here anymore, like a witch hunt.  you want my bet for tonight

http://www.secondsout.com/news/main-news/the-betting-ring-with-james-walt

Cheerio its been quite something

You can say what you like sj but you've slaughtered Burns long before tonight.

Good to see you've proved me wrong there Like I say highly amusing, I havent even got it wrong cos I've said I  wouldnt play the fight pathetic but there you havent it. I'll stick to the direct message lads too many know it all's when the occasional big fight comes on, highly amusing

sj - I've spoken many times with u and respect your views.  I'm not having a go at u

SJ - you are a complete bum when it comes to boxing.

`I dont rate Burns' `I dont rate Bellew'.

Uttterly clueless. I hope you dont give anyone boxing betting advice.

Burns and Bellew are both beautiful classical, stylish boxers. They train like fuuuccckkkkkk and live the life.

They both have fantastic jabs which they use as offensive and defensive weapons and can adapt to any opposition.

Burns is clearly an elite lighweight boxer and Bellew proved v Cleverley he is world class. They are both still improving.

`Dont rate them':

PIIIIISSS OFFF.

Looks like your throwing a bit of a hissy fit.

Don't see anybody saying you called the fight wrong more the case you've gave Burns no credit at all since you done your dough on Martinez.

tell us what you really think of sj

What are you talking about then mate? I've said I like the lad so what I couldnt back him at 8-13. That is it. If Broner or DeMarco beat him up I wouldnt come on here saying "I told you so" unreal but there you go.

so who had th enear 8 to 1 on here then for the burns stopage, no fecker i have seen stuck this up, alex arthur who is a bit of a plum but must know more about these 2 boxers than most couldnt split them derek billington said put 3pts on Mitchell to stop Burns a lot of people got that fight wrong including

me

No mate all these lot were all over the Burns stoppage, cos they really rate Burns as world class so stopping a bloke who was in big trouble V Estrada(I doubt they know who he is) life and death with Johannson and smashed by Kats in three, these boys would of been all over the stoppage

i dont think boner will want to fight him on that

I still can't have Burns. Have i got a mental block, am I in denial?

Could be, but my gut feeling is that he beat a fragile Mitchell tonight and still hasn't done anything to signify he's an outstanding elite fighter. I find him wooden, i don't like his variety punch wise, don't like how he throws his shots and i think he's vulnerable against a decent puncher.

He was very effective defensively when closing up and blocking shots against Katsidis but there was absolutely nothing in Mick's punches, he was gassed power wise from the 2nd round and anyone who caught Katsidis next fight, a loss to a below average african lad will know that Burns fought dead man walking.

Burns didn't look a defensive mastermind against Martinez, he hung on several times and i feel will be caught wanting against any world class oppo in their prime over the next 12 months. It was impressive tonight, real good job but if he wants to be considered elite he has to go in with a fighter who has absolutely no doubts surrounding him. He doesn't even have to win, if he's competitive with a Broner, De Marco even Abril I'd say I've had Burns wrong, hes earnt his stripes. Talk of being elite and 'one of the great british fighters' are really baffling me.

I backed it and put it up beforehand, but really does it matter? No need for all the back biting is there, we all get it right and wrong at different times...the more opinions the better as far as I'm concerned, decent bit of discussion on here can often be very valuable in forcing you to look at things from a different perspective. Be a shame if we lost that.

I had a small double on perez and mitchell but I totally agreed with Paul Smith's comments at the end of the fight when he basically said no method of victory result would have been a suprise tonight.

It's not a new, post Burns fight discussion whether Mitchell's punch resistance has gone. We've spoke about it on here for years and this was the first proper fight since the brutal Murray tear up. People have reacted like Burns has stopped Juan Manuel Marquez early. He really hasn't.

Duke - very good posts.  I don't think most people on here are saying Ricky is Top class but I feel he does not get the respect from certain corners within the game

Agree, just annoyed when you hear the words `I dont rate'.

Could you imagine sj meeting Burns in bar and saying `I dont rate you at boxing'. It is beyond ridiculous.

Duke fair comments and he has some way to become a `great british fighter'.
I think he is elite level at lightweight now, in that I mean in top 3, with Broner/De Marco.

I don't think anyone is saying he's ring magazine No.1

But now its Martinez had his worse night/Katsidis was gone/Mitchell was finished???

I believe he's somewhere in between but whatever you think he deserves massive credit for where he's come from and what he's achieved.

DT how you putting that down to Mitchell"s punch resistance gone? When did he have any? He's 27.

He never had any in the first place when he wasn't fighting diddies and was now fighting a world class fighter.

Burns might not be top class but he has proved much more in his fights than Mitchell who has done **** all his entire career.

SJ getting some right grief.

You know you've made it when you've got haters mate.

That's bang on owlife. I am jealous.

Lol. Worst thing was he never even picked Mitchell to win.  lololol.

All he said was I dnt wana have a bet on this fight because he didn't feel 8/13 was value on burns.

And he got slated.

Infact he won as he backed frampton his only boxing bet today.

Classic example of y alot of honest posters dnt wana post no more

The hatered on the forum is becoming almost unbearable

A bit sad to see the sychophants desperate to defend.

But then I guess thats what the boxing forum has become.

a forum with people forming different opinions and debating them .......remarkable as this happened before

wot i dont think is neccessarily helpful is HYPE cos it was hype that made Camelot a 2/5 shot and it was hype that sayed the titanic could not be sunk

i have never seen SJs posts before but alls he seems to be saying from what little i can see is that burns wasnt an attractive bet BEFORE the match at 8/11. I have watched virtually every fight of his pro career and am a big fan but i didnt back him.

The boxing forum is sparse enough as it is without hounding out someone that puts up a reasoned argument just cos it turns out to be wrong.....

I am still struggling to put last nights match into context tbh as emotions were running high at chateaux Pickens but I dont believe that we have seen the best from Burns. I am sure now he is entering his peak age and he can get better still as he will need to,i do not agree that he is wooden as his foot work seems good his jab looks rock solid andhe does not seem to be a fud like Amir who wants to go rushing in  and squaring up to sluggers, i like the way he took his time to settle then when he was sure he slowly cranked it up, but I do not know if this will be good enough against your top tier. Lets hope FW doesnt wrap him in cotton wool and we get the chance to find out, what I do know is that following him will be a lot more conducive than watching the likes of Khan, Audley and Haye. Anyway I fancy a trip to Vegas in march gets too hot for my me after then...

Same KLOWNS as usual trying to defend sj on the BURNS ISSUE.  No one has doubted sj's views in general.  It's the statement of "Burns is NOT a good boxer".

Christ, get a grip Kriskin.

He didn't think Burns was value at 8/13, big deal. Very few people saw a Burns stoppage coming let alone an early one.

People bet with their head and Burns only had one good win before this one.

Do you now believe Burns is world class after this?

i do hope u are not reffering to me as a klown krispin?

you still not convinced owl? I think the kid could go a long way personally, the move to lightweight has done wonders. Looks so strong at the weight. Just hope Frank lets him off the leash.

Please read sj's post at 6.27pm.  Does NOT RATE Burns as a boxer. He wasn't betting him at odds on but also stated about not rating him.

owl - I said in this thread maybe Ricky is NOT top class but he deserves more credit from certain media people.  Maybe if he was from England he would get this recognition.

now that i would agree wiht but what can you expect when people like that fecking squeeky voiced eejit bunce are taken seriously, did he not say something last night about burns just before ko?

Kriskin 23 Sep 12 13:54 Joined: 08 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 8,482 | Blogger: Kriskin's blog
Please read sj's post at 6.27pm.  Does NOT RATE Burns as a boxer. He wasn't betting him at odds on but also stated about not rating him.

Yes I dont rate him enough to back him at 8-13. We are picking up word for word now? Jesus Christ how pathetic, some people really do get their kilt s in a twist

i think Burns is genuine world class,he has a fantastic jab and is always supremely fit.In hindsight he was a great bet against Mitchell.I think a mixture of his lifestyle plus the Katsidis loss has finished Mitchell!Lets face it even though he beat Murray last year ,there were times in that fight he was wobbled a bit! Its all about opinions and i for one think Burns can move up to the elite class,he showed when he fought Katsidis that he can box on the end of his jab to good effect and i hope he goes on to bigger and better things!

Yeah he's top 3 in the division

so who next i'd love to see him fight Broner, my guess is warren will get a fight organised against a nobody this year then look for something bigger in the spring, unfortunately Harrison will put bums on seats but its not gonna be an edifying spectacle imo

I'd get Vasquez over. Unification and I think Burns could beat him

Interesting that it's taken so long for Warren to come up in the post fight discussion. For me his matchmaking has been the most significant factor in Burns' title defence run, not Rickys ability/improvement.

I'm not saying Warren has selected bums (although Cook, Evensen and Layrea were terrible opposition) but he has shown a real skill of picking fighters that have looked dangerous and exciting but have turned out to be past it. I don't think this is an accident, more impressive promotional steering from Frank.

How you can talk elite, which means pound for pound not just divisional,on the back of the last couple of years is beyond me. The Martinez fight was a ding dong rollercoaster ride, a fantastic upset. Where have the world-class performances/opposition been since then? If he climbs in with the lads from the division mentioned above and performs well I'll be happy to hold my hands up but to demand more respect for Burns at the moment is puzzling. He's got some way to go before being regarded as a great champion, elite status is miles away imo.

You have to say that Duke otherwise you're anti scottish get something against Burns cos you done your dough like myself V Martinez. I do believe he can beat Vasquez but I'm gonna have my anti Ricky head on for Broner and DeMarco

I don't think many are going to argue that the rickster will ever be p4p material to be honest, but he does deserve respect as one of the few genuine world class fighters we've got at the moment. I'd give him a great chance against Broner personally and probably get a decent price aswell.

You'd get an outstanding price from where I'm sitting!

warren does that though he is the master at squeezing every last dollar out of a fighter, not that its been good for the game mind or even some of his fighters, it was around about this sort of break through time both hatton and khan dumped him. I am not sure what will happen with burns but to me it would be great if he got on the boat and went to a top yank gym, cos unlike amir he would listen and learn and unlike hatton he lives the life and isnt gonna get distracted.

I think Duketurtle is being pretty harsh with his wooden comments tbh and he can only beat whats in front of him which nobody is denying wasnt impressive last night but he is far from the finished article

look forward to doing business with you then duke it's all about opinions

If the price is right we'll dance, let's keep price-wise till nearer the time

Sadly I don't think we'll get a chance to see Burns unifying titles or fighting the likes of Broner.

He's too nice a lad in some ways he'll let Warren do what he likes and with that crowd yesterday all Frank will be interested in is lots of paydays.

Home defences against the easiest opponent Warren can find for the next couple of years

Harrison is on the cards, Warren will milk it to death.

Mitchell will have to rebuild now, could he move to 140? Him vs McCloskey would be a good euro level scrap.