but is Jones a good boxer? has 8 losses, Sky will be worries Brook is'nt what they thought
Spot on, they will continue to try big brook up but its clear he be in serious trouble if he takes a step up
one thing is for certain, he needs to start living like an athlete, his style should allow him to go into the later rounds without tiring too badly ala mayweather. No excuse for tiring like he did tonight
but is Jones a good boxer? has 8 losses, Sky will be worries Brook is'nt what they thought Spot on, they will continue to try big brook up but its clear he be in serious trouble if he takes a step upone thing is for certain, he needs to start living
Brook better not fight any of the BIG boys in this division. He has NO chance. A division 2 boxer that's all he is. Carson Jones journey man nearly put him away
Brook better not fight any of the BIG boys in this division. He has NO chance. A division 2 boxer that's all he is. Carson Jones journey man nearly put him away
he tired so badly cos he took hard punches. taking punishment tires you..he'l continue to take punishment in any step up fight
thought 114-114 was fair result
he tired so badly cos he took hard punches. taking punishment tires you..he'l continue to take punishment in any step up fightthought 114-114 was fair result
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I hope he does... might get a nice price ;)
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Ive said many times on here before that i worry Kell hasnt the best boxing brain. He looked lost in there tonight and whilst Jones is decent, that is all he is. I cant believe how bad and fast he gassed out. worrying.
i have to agree with Henry here.Ive said many times on here before that i worry Kell hasnt the best boxing brain. He looked lost in there tonight and whilst Jones is decent, that is all he is. I cant believe how bad and fast he gassed out. worrying.
Brook was one punch away from being sparked there. Someone a bit cuter than Jones would have stopped Brook. Worrying that Hearn and Brook makeing excuses here i.e diet, preperation.
Brook was one punch away from being sparked there. Someone a bit cuter than Jones would have stopped Brook. Worrying that Hearn and Brook makeing excuses here i.e diet, preperation.
not too sure about Kell after this, when stepping up the boxers with massive potential usually start well (kell did), struggle in the middle (kell did), but finish brilliantly (kell certainly did not!), he went out on his shield and was a punch from being dropped against a very average boxer, you have to wonder
not too sure about Kell after this, when stepping up the boxers with massive potential usually start well (kell did), struggle in the middle (kell did), but finish brilliantly (kell certainly did not!), he went out on his shield and was a punch from
danny - I've been in this game too long. Brook is an average European boxer. That's all
Agreed, he be eaten alive by any of the top level fighters. Fair play tonight though, he did show heart to get the win
danny - I've been in this game too long. Brook is an average European boxer. That's all Agreed, he be eaten alive by any of the top level fighters. Fair play tonight though, he did show heart to get the win
im not saying hes going to be a certain sucess but his career to date has been a breeze, he hasnt been tested in this way till today. are u telling me, both of you, that youve never seen a fighter push on an improve after a tough lesson like this? again, let me reiterate im not argueing with you both, you will possibly be correct, but i have a feeling kell may have a few more levels yet.
im not saying hes going to be a certain sucess but his career to date has been a breeze, he hasnt been tested in this way till today. are u telling me, both of you, that youve never seen a fighter push on an improve after a tough lesson like this? ag
That's fine Danny C, ofcourse we seen fighters push on after a tough test, however I just dont see brook ever being a top level fighter
Also his career has been a breeze so far due to the lack of a quality opponent, he went in there today against a bloke who has eight loses and he only just scrapped through
That's fine Danny C, ofcourse we seen fighters push on after a tough test, however I just dont see brook ever being a top level fighterAlso his career has been a breeze so far due to the lack of a quality opponent, he went in there today against a bl
100% agree henry but you could use what your saying as a counter arguement. The lack of quality opponents possibly led to him walking in there thinking it would be at a canter. like in all sports, if you underestimate your opponent your mentally unprepared. End of the day, kell hung on today and the next fight will be make or break for him. perfect preparation for him to kick on if the class is there. soon see fellas, was a good fight for the tv audience at least! unlike the spectacle that just ended on channel 5 in what looked like a barn!
100% agree henry but you could use what your saying as a counter arguement. The lack of quality opponents possibly led to him walking in there thinking it would be at a canter. like in all sports, if you underestimate your opponent your mentally unpr
Kriskin 07 Jul 12 22:35 jimmy - u state that |Jones is decent. What does decent mean?? My statement is that Jones is a division 2 boxer henry14 07 Jul 12 22:36 That's fine Danny C, ofcourse we seen fighters push on after a tough test, however I just dont see brook ever being a top level fighter
Also his career has been a breeze so far due to the lack of a quality opponent, he went in there today against a bloke who has eight loses and he only just scrapped through
Exactly wat does division 2 mean.
Of course jones brook r world class. Brook possibly top 5, jones certainly top 10 in division for my money. So world class?????
Of course he is.
Of course khan should beat brook via points.
But brook will ko khan if he starts yto land.
Quality fighters. Quality fight. Close fight end of.
I had brook by a point
Kriskin 07 Jul 12 22:35 jimmy - u state that |Jones is decent. What does decent mean?? My statement is that Jones is a division 2 boxerhenry14 07 Jul 12 22:36 That's fine Danny C, ofcourse we seen fighters push on after a tough test,
henry i think he is talking in fact terms. world class i suppose means different things to different people. i see world class as would be able to fight at the top level, whereas some people for arguements sake are saying anyone from top 10 upwards is technically world class as they are the best ten in the world.
henry i think he is talking in fact terms. world class i suppose means different things to different people. i see world class as would be able to fight at the top level, whereas some people for arguements sake are saying anyone from top 10 upwards i
and since were only able to go on kells performances to date, he certainly didnt show the world class top 5 side than many people were assume would be given.
as ive said in previous comments i have a lot of hope for him, but on current showings, no where near the top 5!
and since were only able to go on kells performances to date, he certainly didnt show the world class top 5 side than many people were assume would be given. as ive said in previous comments i have a lot of hope for him, but on current showings, no w
great nights boxing anyway, bit pissed off about missing the 2/1 Proksa stoppage but the treble is looking good.
Honours pretty even on tonight's bets, honestly think Kell was out on his feet at the end of the 12th though, would have been a nice bonus.
great nights boxing anyway, bit pissed off about missing the 2/1 Proksa stoppage but the treble is looking good.Honours pretty even on tonight's bets, honestly think Kell was out on his feet at the end of the 12th though, would have been a nice bonus
smido25 04 Jul 12 12:50 Joined: 27 Mar 11 | Topic/replies: 136 | Blogger: smido25's blog Brook points win for me at 2/1 looks the value at this stage. Not committed to a bet yet. Will be in attendance and it looks a cracking card.
another good call smido, hope you cleaned up.
smido2504 Jul 12 12:50 Joined: 27 Mar 11 | Topic/replies: 136 | Blogger: smido25's blogBrook points win for me at 2/1 looks the value at this stage. Not committed to a bet yet. Will be in attendance and it looks a cracking card.another good call smid
thought kell could of got fight stopped think it was the 5th round if been more agressive and may needed to of done that against a better oponent, but a wins a win and as i had some 2s for points so was more than happy, i had him infront by 2 not that it matters
thought kell could of got fight stopped think it was the 5th round if been more agressive and may needed to of done that against a better oponent, but a wins a win and as i had some 2s for points so was more than happy, i had him infront by 2 not t
Thanks for the mention Alabaster. Had a very good betting day. Played the Brook points at 2/1 and Proksa KO at 13/8 (another one that missed early value) paid around £144 for a £20 double. Was a great night and was seated on the thrid row which was a bonus! Got to speak to a few guys ringside so bodes well for future attendnace and blogs.
As for the main event I had Brook a pretty wide 9-2-1 winner from ringside. No bias commentary to deal with. Brook cleanded up in the first 6 and, as I thought after Hatton fight and now confirmed, his power isn't good enough. Easy to criticise the performance but it was one Brook needed to come through and would rather happen against Carson Jones than Randall Bailey or Tim Bradley for instance. Eddie Hearn was very honest afterwards when saying changes need to be made and will be made. Hearn is a cool dude by the way, very approachable and I even managed to ask about the Betfair relationship with Matchroom - he didn't know much about it to be fair.
Gavin Rees impressed me.
Darren Barker will jab Proksa's head off by the way. Glad the Pole scored a KO as the odds will be shorter about him Vs Barker than if it'd gone to points (vs Hope). Barker to beat Proksa could be a big bet for me depending on odds of course.
Thanks for the mention Alabaster. Had a very good betting day. Played the Brook points at 2/1 and Proksa KO at 13/8 (another one that missed early value) paid around £144 for a £20 double. Was a great night and was seated on the thrid row which was