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deansthemann
03 Jul 12 21:50
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Report happyhibee July 7, 2012 9:55 PM BST
Brook has gone here
Report vinnie_roe July 7, 2012 9:56 PM BST
A monster rd for carson. I fancy the ko here.
Report zekial July 7, 2012 9:57 PM BST
lovin the sky team panicking here
Report larrence July 7, 2012 9:58 PM BST
how did brook not knock him out with thoughs punches. Crazy
Report happyhibee July 7, 2012 10:00 PM BST
Cracking fight this I think brook is only 1 round ahead and he looks exhausted
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:00 PM BST
Brook defo still win this, but he is no superstar
Report vinnie_roe July 7, 2012 10:01 PM BST
great courage by brook
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:02 PM BST
lol who is that **** in the red **** throwing uppercuts in the crowd
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:02 PM BST
shirt*
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:03 PM BST
Brook in major trouble when he fights a decent fighter
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:03 PM BST
hell of a fight!
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 10:04 PM BST
another great fight it has to be said
Report happyhibee July 7, 2012 10:04 PM BST
Great action here but think Brook is slightly short of the top level and the 147 division is full of so much quality
Report Tucho July 7, 2012 10:04 PM BST
what a fight

the nose Shocked
Report zekial July 7, 2012 10:04 PM BST
love it if jones did it here
Report vinnie_roe July 7, 2012 10:05 PM BST
I have brook 2pts in front.
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:05 PM BST
but is Jones a good boxer? has 8 losses, Sky will be worries Brook is'nt what they thought
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:06 PM BST
amazing fight brook looking tired.
Report danny c July 7, 2012 10:06 PM BST
something very similar to amir khan in some ways for me. clearly a class act, but may take a couple losses early in his career before pushing on
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:06 PM BST
neutral judges aren't they? 1 USA, 1 UK and 1 other
Report vinnie_roe July 7, 2012 10:07 PM BST
a german judge
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:07 PM BST
Jones will never win a tight fight in England, but Brook is winning
Report happyhibee July 7, 2012 10:07 PM BST
Jim Watt doesnt have talk some ****
Report zekial July 7, 2012 10:08 PM BST
neutral  makes no diff - kell house fighter and promoter. just has to make the bell
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:08 PM BST
not always but it's not like it would be a bad decision if Brook wins so probably makes no difference
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:09 PM BST
brook needs to work on fitness.
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:10 PM BST
go on jones!
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:10 PM BST
the crowd cheering Jones
Report zekial July 7, 2012 10:12 PM BST
jones has won from rd 7 onwards so id have it a draw if a "fair" judging was given. rd 12 was nearly a 10-8 rd there
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:12 PM BST
lol, so close, Adam Smiths voice when Jones landed that shot ther
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Brook win get the home decision, but he looks a beaten man
Report happyhibee July 7, 2012 10:12 PM BST
Terrific fight. Brook by 2 for me but definitely on the list to get
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 10:12 PM BST
damn good fight, one clean punch at the end and brook was out of there
Report vinnie_roe July 7, 2012 10:12 PM BST
I want 15rds.
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:13 PM BST
great fight
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:13 PM BST
but is Jones a good boxer? has 8 losses, Sky will be worries Brook is'nt what they thought

Spot on, they will continue to try big brook up but its clear he be in serious trouble if he takes a step up

one thing is for certain, he needs to start living like an athlete, his style should allow him to go into the later rounds without tiring too badly ala mayweather. No excuse for tiring like he did tonight
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:13 PM BST
Brook better not fight any of the BIG boys in this division.  He has NO chance.  A division 2 boxer that's all he is.  Carson Jones journey man nearly put him away
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:15 PM BST
the yank judge lets Jones down lol
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:15 PM BST
The headbutt was the turning point as didn't help brook breathing.
Report zekial July 7, 2012 10:15 PM BST
he tired so badly cos he took hard punches. taking punishment tires you..he'l continue to take punishment in any step up fight

thought 114-114 was fair result
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:16 PM BST
Fair play to the judge scoring a draw, dont know where the 116-113 was, fkin ridiculous
Report ND47 July 7, 2012 10:16 PM BST
Anyone see the betting in I/R, just interested where Brooks price went in the 2nd half of the fight when he was in trouble.
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
Another over rated English boxer.  Winning NO belt of any significance in the future
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
fury in the ring on channel 5 now
Report zekial July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
brook went just past 1.5 at one point
Report bris1 July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
I layed off Jones at 3.0, not sure if he went lower
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
He was tired from the 7th round and had not taken a great deal of punishment at that point...no excuse imo

However great fight to watch
Report vinnie_roe July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
The judges had it right. Brook would be a nice prep for khan at 147, before possibly mayweather.
Report ND47 July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
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Brook better not fight any of the BIG boys in this division.  He has NO chance.  A division 2 boxer that's all he is.  Carson Jones journey man nearly put him away

I hope he does... might get a nice price ;)
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:17 PM BST
brook hasn't got a mark on him.
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:18 PM BST
Khan would destroy Brook
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:18 PM BST
Another over rated English boxer.  Winning NO belt of any significance in the future

Have to agree
Report ND47 July 7, 2012 10:19 PM BST
Thanks Zekial & bris1
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 10:19 PM BST
yep, dislike khan but he's all wrong for brook
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:19 PM BST
C'mon Fury! he'll KO the guy in 3
Report zekial July 7, 2012 10:19 PM BST
ehh he has a mangled broken nose larrence
Report Jimmy Diamond July 7, 2012 10:20 PM BST
i have to agree with Henry here.

Ive said many times on here before that i worry Kell hasnt the best boxing brain. He looked lost in there tonight and whilst Jones is decent, that is all he is. I cant believe how bad and fast he gassed out. worrying.
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:21 PM BST
brook needs to go and train in america and work on fitness. That carson jones was one tough cookie.
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:22 PM BST
Jimmy - Carson Jones is not anywhere near the Top division in the US.  Brook will NEVER beat any of the TOP boys in this division.
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:22 PM BST
i think brook would knock khan out.
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:23 PM BST
jones has got a granite chin.
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:23 PM BST
not necessarily, he's be KO'ed twice
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:24 PM BST
larrance

Khan 1/6
Report Jimmy Diamond July 7, 2012 10:25 PM BST
Brook was one punch away from being sparked there. Someone a bit cuter than Jones would have stopped Brook. Worrying that Hearn and Brook makeing excuses here i.e diet, preperation.
Report danny c July 7, 2012 10:25 PM BST
crazy comment from kriskin. he is young, and untested in a battle over 12 rounds. he will learn from tonight an push on. writing him off is moronic
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:25 PM BST
danny - I've been in this game too long.  Brook is an average European boxer.  That's all
Report happyhibee July 7, 2012 10:26 PM BST
Watt alluded to not living the life between fights so dunno if he is still out on the town a lot or not
Report Jimmy Diamond July 7, 2012 10:26 PM BST
Kriskin

where did i say Carson Jones was a top level US fighter. I said the complete opposite CrazyCrazy
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:27 PM BST
not too sure about Kell after this, when stepping up the boxers with massive potential usually start well (kell did), struggle in the middle (kell did), but finish brilliantly (kell certainly did not!), he went out on his shield and was a punch from being dropped against a very average boxer, you have to wonder
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:27 PM BST
danny - I've been in this game too long.  Brook is an average European boxer.  That's all

Agreed, he be eaten alive by any of the top level fighters. Fair play tonight though, he did show heart to get the win
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:29 PM BST
brook would knock khan out in the 1st round.
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:29 PM BST
this yank of CH5 doing my head in
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:30 PM BST
larrance - stick to the horse racing with statements like that

LaughLaughLaugh
Report Jimmy Diamond July 7, 2012 10:31 PM BST
kriskin

where did i say Jones was a top level fighter?????
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:31 PM BST
what they talking about brook badly hurt, not what i was watching.
Report danny c July 7, 2012 10:32 PM BST
im not saying hes going to be a certain sucess but his career to date has been a breeze, he hasnt been tested in this way till today. are u telling me, both of you, that youve never seen a fighter push on an improve after a tough lesson like this? again, let me reiterate im not argueing with you both, you will possibly be correct, but i have a feeling kell may have a few more levels yet.
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:32 PM BST
i backed prescott when he knocked khan out in the first. Laugh
Report PHILthePOWER July 7, 2012 10:34 PM BST
had a cheeky bet on Hope at 4.3
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:35 PM BST
jimmy - u state that |Jones is decent.  What does decent mean??  My statement is that Jones is a division 2 boxer
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:36 PM BST
That's fine Danny C, ofcourse we seen fighters push on after a tough test, however I just dont see brook ever being a top level fighter

Also his career has been a breeze so far due to the lack of a quality opponent, he went in there today against a bloke who has eight loses and he only just scrapped through
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 10:38 PM BST
danny - good post
Report Jimmy Diamond July 7, 2012 10:42 PM BST
He is decent Kriskin. I would have said top level or world class if i meant so.
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:42 PM BST
yes danny well said.
Report danny c July 7, 2012 10:42 PM BST
100% agree henry but you could use what your saying as a counter arguement. The lack of quality opponents possibly led to him walking in there thinking it would be at a canter. like in all sports, if you underestimate your opponent your mentally unprepared. End of the day, kell hung on today and the next fight will be make or break for him. perfect preparation for him to kick on if the class is there. soon see fellas, was a good fight for the tv audience at least! unlike the spectacle that just ended on channel 5 in what looked like a barn!
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:44 PM BST
I do agree that it could and should be a kick up the backside for brook and I also agree the tyson fight was a joke but that was always to be expected
Report carlos monzon July 7, 2012 10:49 PM BST
Kriskin     07 Jul 12 22:35  
jimmy - u state that |Jones is decent.  What does decent mean??  My statement is that Jones is a division 2 boxer
henry14     07 Jul 12 22:36  
That's fine Danny C, ofcourse we seen fighters push on after a tough test, however I just dont see brook ever being a top level fighter

Also his career has been a breeze so far due to the lack of a quality opponent, he went in there today against a bloke who has eight loses and he only just scrapped through




Exactly wat does division 2 mean.

Of course jones brook r world class. Brook possibly top 5, jones certainly top 10 in division for my money. So world class?????

Of course he is.


Of course khan should beat brook via points.

But brook will ko khan if he starts yto land.

Quality fighters. Quality fight. Close fight end of.

I had brook by a point
Report larrence July 7, 2012 10:55 PM BST
i reckon alot of big shots brook caught carson jones with, would have taken out most.
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 10:55 PM BST
World class??? What the hell have you been drinking??
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 10:57 PM BST
sorry carlos but brook is never top 5
Report danny c July 7, 2012 10:58 PM BST
henry i think he is talking in fact terms. world class i suppose means different things to different people. i see world class as would be able to fight at the top level, whereas some people for arguements sake are saying anyone from top 10 upwards is technically world class as they are the best ten in the world.
Report danny c July 7, 2012 10:59 PM BST
and since were only able to go on kells performances to date, he certainly didnt show the world class top 5 side than many people were assume would be given.

as ive said in previous comments i have a lot of hope for him, but on current showings, no where near the top 5!
Report henry14 July 7, 2012 11:00 PM BST
Maybe, clearly a term that is thrown around far to easily these day in almost every sport
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 11:02 PM BST
surely hope cant take these shots for another 5
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 11:05 PM BST
nice shot to finish it.
Report Kriskin July 7, 2012 11:06 PM BST
carlos - Do u know anything about boxing??  Ur statement is one the worse I've ever read in all my time on here
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 11:26 PM BST
great nights boxing anyway, bit pissed off about missing the 2/1 Proksa stoppage but the treble is looking good.

Honours pretty even on tonight's bets, honestly think Kell was out on his feet at the end of the 12th though, would have been a nice bonus.
Report alabaster crashes down July 7, 2012 11:54 PM BST
smido25
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Brook points win for me at 2/1 looks the value at this stage. Not committed to a bet yet. Will be in attendance and it looks a cracking card.

another good call smido, hope you cleaned up.
Report pocket pairs July 9, 2012 3:30 PM BST
thought kell could of got fight stopped think it was the 5th round if been more agressive and may needed to of done that against a better oponent, but a wins a win and as i had some 2s for points so   was more than happy, i had him infront by 2 not that it matters
Report smido25 July 9, 2012 5:35 PM BST
Thanks for the mention Alabaster. Had a very good betting day. Played the Brook points at 2/1 and Proksa KO at 13/8 (another one that missed early value) paid around £144 for a £20 double. Was a great night and was seated on the thrid row which was a bonus! Got to speak to a few guys ringside so bodes well for future attendnace and blogs.

As for the main event I had Brook a pretty wide 9-2-1 winner from ringside. No bias commentary to deal with. Brook cleanded up in the first 6 and, as I thought after Hatton fight and now confirmed, his power isn't good enough. Easy to criticise the performance but it was one Brook needed to come through and would rather happen against Carson Jones than Randall Bailey or Tim Bradley for instance. Eddie Hearn was very honest afterwards when saying changes need to be made and will be made. Hearn is a cool dude by the way, very approachable and I even managed to ask about the Betfair relationship with Matchroom - he didn't know much about it to be fair.

Gavin Rees impressed me.

Darren Barker will jab Proksa's head off by the way. Glad the Pole scored a KO as the odds will be shorter about him Vs Barker than if it'd gone to points (vs Hope). Barker to beat Proksa could be a big bet for me depending on odds of course.
Report alabaster crashes down July 9, 2012 6:08 PM BST
Yeah Barker will box rings round Proksa if they meet but not convinced we'll get a decent price.
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