Peterson failed drugs test!!

and espn. Slap on the wrists, maybe a fine? Wouldn't be suprised if the fight still goes ahead.

If this was Khan this thread would be about 4 pages long by now! LP and his stable doesn't seem the straightest of characters does he?

Lamont pettersson and his camp should be banned from boxing simple as I like.

However I do strongly believe it should it should be after the khan fight.

This mug pettersson and camp have dragged boxing through the gutter for the last 6 months and they give us this rags to riches bull5hit. The guy is a cheat and the worst thing about this dumb b a stard is he keeps getting caught.

But he must be allowed to fight khan and if he loses that's it a lifetime ban IMO.

However if he wins then he should be allowed to carry on as boxing would be in the spotlight big time if he won and got banned. If he loses and gets banned no1 will care and everything will be hush hush.

I mean I ain't got a problem with drug issues cus every1 probs uses them. Every camp is bent wen it comes to bad descions but this punk and his camp r doing it right infront of every1 and getting caught too often

Peterson has no previous does he Carlos? IMO a boxer cant fail a drugs test then be able to fight and earn money then serve his sentence.

Agree with u to an extent Davis.

But if this fight is cancelled due to a drug offence by khan or pettersson (dnt realy matter who the culprit is. Mind u it would be alot worse if khan got done due to the extra publicity the case would get) boxing would suffer yet another black eye.

Only a few weeks ago overeem got done and every1 was laughing at ufc. And having said that ufc is a sport with not that much reputation for fair play and they got stick.

Boxing has a far bigger reputation to protect. 3 centuries wortth.

Templeton pleck hasn't been on since overoids got done

i see what your saying about it being a blow for boxings reputation.i just think that if thats what it takes to clean up boxing and to make sure that fighters are clean and not using PEDs then so be it.lets bring in olympic style drug testing and clear out all the cheats in the sport.

Yes but if they bann pettersson it won't clean the sport at all and u would have to say boxing clearly has double standards.

Jones tested positive, holyfeild got caught red handed, think every1 knows Chavez is on summit and none have been punished so far. So y petterson, is it because he is a low profile boxer. If it is it's not good enough.

Boxing needs clear standards and punishments for cheats, low profile or high profile, it makes no difference, if ur caught ur punished accordingly regardless of ur fame and fortune.

Boxing has no real guidelines on these issues. And they need to get some fast otherwise the once regarded  best sport in history will be regarded as joke sport with cheats.

If boxing wanted to get serious with drug testing then surly wat better time to start (get PAC and mayweather tested).

Do wat mayweather asked and get the random testing in for the big fight. The officials have yet to agree to mayweather demands and that's a big reason y PAC and mayweather havnt fought.

The testing is a joke at the moment (jones getting away with it) so it realy shouldn't matter if pettersons tested positive or not. It should be brushed under the table like jones steroids were.

Boxing needs to be cosistant as well as clean.

Petterson v khan dnt happen because of drug issues will seriously harm the sport.

Hopefully sometime this year the officials will do summit. Untill they do banning low profile fighters and letting high profile fighters get away with it is far worse than having all cheats.

Eg u can't say manny, chavez, jones etc can take drugs and if there caught we will just brush it under the table. However if a low profile fighter gets caught let's do him.

If boxing alows this to happen it's not even a corrupt sport anymore. It becomes more of a politics than a sport.

Good month of boxing coming up, the best month of boxing for the last 5 years could become one of the worst months for boxing if petterson didn't fight due to drug issues. Floyd v cotto, froch v bute, khan v petterson, pacman v Bradley will all be overshadowed by the pettersson drug issue and tarnish the who lot.

Not good is it. I guess it a no win situation for boxing ATM

For Peterson to get caught he must have been absolutely loaded to the eyeballs as the current testing system gives fighters a negative result even if they're well over the normal level of testosterone.

I'm not eactly sure what the ratio is measured in but the normal average testosterone in a male is 1:1. The Wada test will show you as a negative up to 4:1 and the Nevada test even slacker, a whopping 6:1.

If Peterson got caught he must have been full of it. Lets face it, he looked a different fighter in the last matchup with Khan. Stronger, bigger, much more solid. There's every chance he was full of peds for the first encounter. His head looked bigger, his features broader.

SJ's been calling for the random testing for years, i was much slower to catch up myself but hopefully this current wave of incidents might actually jolt the authorities, be it boxing's own or US government, into action.

If they can't explain Peterson's test, I'd like to see him banned for life.

He has to be stripped of his title simple as that why should Khan fight him? Peterson fought with super human strength would not be denied in the first fight. He has to be banned for life, he's taking Khan's life in his hands.
Maybe now hopefully this has shown that random blood and urine tests are a must, Manny you're up next mate

Schaefer says both A and B samples are consistent with steroids. 4/13, follow-up samples were taken and came back negative.

Yes it would be double standards having the likes of Holyfield,Shane n Roy Jones etc in the sport and banning Peterson.Yes its important to be consistent.But that has to come second to the health and safety of fighters surely,this isnt Dwain Chambers running quicker down a track or Barry Bonds swinging a bat,its taking a substance that enables you to inflict more damage to somebody.If they're willing to do that, for me a lifetime ban is the least they deserve.Is there a protocol in place to deal with drug cheats in boxing??I like to think im a fan of the sport but that side of things i wouldnt have a clue about. I have mates who enjoy boxing who always support the likes of Shane Mosley n Roy Jones when they fight yet curse magarito n say he deserves to die a slow death.Theres not much difference between them IMO.Talking about implementing bans seems a bit irrelevant at the moment anyway,because we have no idea how widespread the problem is because our current testing system isnt good enough to even catch them.

I agree Davis, I realy do.

Like u said it's unfair to ban petterson after other top names have gotten away with it time and time again. Jones, holyfeild etc were caught red handed. Others like shane kind of admitted it. But how many others have been caught and hush hush.

But like u pointed out, boxing is not like sprinting, a man could get seriously hurt if on phds.

I agree it's a complicated subject.

But boxing officials have been so unfair to the competitors in recent years that no matter wat they decide here it will be unfair.

On top of this boxing gets some seriously unwanted negative press.

On the back of this I'm hearing bute might pull out too.

Personaly I think the officials need to take it 1 step at a time.

The clean up process of this sport can only done through the art of delegation.

Sorting out boxings bad decsions and unfair referees is far more important because it's easy to do, cost efficiant.

The drug issue is far more complicated.


At times I feel sowi for petterson, maybe these results were bent maybe because his camp got caught red handed messin with scorecards. Maybe it was a warning to camps all around the world, if ur gona cheat make sure u dnt get caught.

Ino it sounds sick defending petterson,  but the officiating of boxing supports boxers to take drugs in a way. Here's the proof: mayweather asks for testing.  Pacman agrees to the testing only if the officials ask for it.  Officials ignore mayweathers plea.


Maybe khans on it too, maybe his camp know how to get around it. Petterssons camp r truly thick so I'm not suprised they got caught.


Agree with u davis about margrito and phd performers being similar.


But again I would like to state that pettersson or any other fighter getting caught with phd in is system should not be banned simply because officials kind of encourage it. So banning pettersson is unfair and won't change a thing at all. What boxing needs is to change it's stance on drug related problems within our sport. Once this has been established then I'm all for a lifetime ban and prison sentances for all boxers who get caught.

Just think about it for 1sec jones was caught using steroids. Once it was established he was still allowed to compete. Got his victory and nothing was ever said about it again. At the same time Tyson was caught for taking cannibas after his fight with golata for having traces of cannibas in his system and his result changed to a no contest.

Now that's wat I call bullsh1t testing, bull5hit decsions, bull5hit everything.

How on earth can officials just suddenly ban the guy, take his belt away from him wen all the evidence was there that he never beat khan in the 1st place. And after all the controversy, this bull5hit comes up and suddenly petterssons taken summit.

I'm sowi but I think pettersons been framed one way or the other

No setup here Carlos, Peterson has admitted to taking testosterone pellets before the first Khan fight, pellets that you place under your arm that dissolve into the glands, because his levels were low.

The problem is he's probably taken them on the back of strong rumours about Ariza and what he is providing for Khan. Said it before and I genuinely think the majority of juicers in the sport are using out of fear for what the opposition are upto.

I
must admit I never knew that.

But still calling a fight off a week before kick off is crazy. It's never happened before a big fight. It will do boxing no good at all. It's basically shambles all over.

Hayes gona fight chisora after the blokes been banned a few weeks ago.

Pettersson beat khan under seriously controversial circumstances and no good come out of the investigations even though the evidence was compelling to say the least.

Khan pulled out of the enquiry on  The day it was supposed be held.

I guess we all know wat happened realy. Ibf paid him off and that was that. Khan cares more about money than  justice for himself

I don't see how going ahead with the fight can do anything but serious damage to the sport Carlos. What are we saying as a sport if we'll let a fighter get in the ring who's failed a drug test for a substance that would help him develop unnatural strength, speed and stamina?

This fight can't go ahead, we're massively in the gutter if they allow Peterson off the hook, it'll be a disgrace.

Forget what's gone before, who's been let off, Roy Jones etc. That wasn't right and shouldn't be the yard stick to measure whether Peterson can continue. He needs banning, possibly for life.

Continued.

Khan had a chance to seek justice for himself but decided money was more important.

So y should a man get a type of  justice no other boxer has ever had in the history of the sport.

All this for a man who took money instead of pushing his case forward.

Like mayweather says u can't feed a closed mouth.

I guess they should pay khan extra now that pettersson has tested positive. I'm sure khan will be more than happy this way

This has got sod all to do with khan or any other fighter other than LP!It's got sod all to with what has gone on in the past -  he's been caught breaking the rules - punish him according to those rules - what is the problem?

Yes I agree, but wat r the rules.

If high profile stars like jones and holyfeild get away with it so shouldn't pettersson.

Khan camp havnt said much have they. I wonder y.

I say same standards for all competitors high profile or not.

And like DUKE SAID " maybe petterssons on em cause he thinks khans on em".

Perfectly normal explanation IMO

Should be out the sport. A strong line must be taken here. It s bad enough we ban some cu nt for loading his gloves for a year. This isnt athletics or anything you enhance your performance in this game and there is every chance you kill someone. Cheerio Lamont

You know Peterson was actually within the test / epi test ratio allowed, thats not how they caught him, so arguably he didn't have an illegal advantage in the fight.

He was within the ridiculous USADA ratio of 4:1 and Nevada's 6:1, not of WADA's test requirement who were dealing with it at Team Peterson's request. Just shows how outrageously flexible and flawed the regular boxing testing system is

WADA's is 4:1 as far as I'm aware as well

I think you're right mate having had a look, but that doesn't mean he was within the 4:1, presuming you meant he was within the 6:1 of Nevada?

Surely it's time they changed these ratio's?

he was 3.77/1

Just seen Conte post 3.77-1, which is defo someone using when the norm is 1:1 but not a drug cheat by the silly law. How has he failed the test then?

WADA use the Carbon Isotope Test as well which can determine if the testosterone present is natural or synthetic. His only mistake was not telling anyone he was receiving TRT, it's not really the same as Overeem whose ratio was something like 16:1

Sorry wrong again, testing was taken out by VADA (voluntary anti-doping agency), presume their red light levels are lower than WADA's 4:1?

They are also 4:1 as they follow WADA's guidelines.

How has he 'failed' the test then? Is it more the makeup of his testosterone they've not been happy with? I keep reading 'synthetic' as if they've picked up by texture that his levels are dodgy.

Yep, I said how in my post above, in short natural testosterone has more of one 'type' of carbon in because of the way we 'make' it naturally as opposed to how the Pharma companies produce it.