Bloodstock & Breeding
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About time we had a fresh start. So for newbies, I post a list of sires in order of flat race wins in GB (not Northern Ireland or the Republic. In 2020 Kodiac was top from Dark Angel and Dubawi. So far after 26 flat races in 2021 we have a 26 way tie! No sire has yet reached 2.
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Camacho finally breaks the tie with Drew Breeze providing his second of the year.
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started off 2021 in fine style camacho adds winner number 4
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Camacho and Dubawi set the pace but Kodiac is only one behind.
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im still waiting for lope de vega to get his first winner of the season, last year showcasing had a 20/1 winner on january 1st
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There is a lot of chance involved at such an early stage! Dubawi hardly had any before June last year but has 4 already. Probably because a lot of well bred horses are still waiting for their first and second runs that would normally have been put away by now.
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chance is my favourite variable, kingman got his first winner in the oppenheimer colours, will need a lot more 3yo's for lope de vega this season, considering he only had 36 2yo's
last year, plus an above average crop of 2yo's, theres no way of knowing that will be the case |
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That looked a good maiden to me and Alto Volante had the pedigree to win.
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racing post star performer, the favourite was a showcasing and didnt inspire confidence in that field at the price and there was a lope de vega outsider, beaten 15 lengths on
debut, only left the winner in the optimum price range, don't have a betting tank at the moment, hopefully things will be ready for the start of may, lope de vega finally had his first winner, the drift on the runner up pistoletto who was well backed when the markets opened the day before, meant the F/C paid well, crossed my mind to post it on here, ive done tipping threads for years and there is no upside. more enjoyment picking your own winners. |
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arion pedigrees are not updating their GB tables yet for 2021, maybe they wait until the official start of the flat season, had a good idea for next years start of the season,
list of the top 50 stallions, as each stallion gets his first winner, cross that off the list until there are no more left, impossible to post on a thread too much typing, lot easier to write a list on paper and do it that way, could be very informative and financially rewarding. will try that next year. |
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when your evaluating the chances of your selections, something ive been interested in is the % probability, something i haven't incorporated into my betting process yet, BITODDS
conversion table, think it is very important in moving past the price and onto the % probability as an indicator |
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The RP site is fairly accurate but not updated at weekends. Exceed and Excel is now top with 6 wins but he often is in January. His progeny seem well suited to AW surfaces.
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arion pedigrees is up and running since 15th january, don't know if the racing post will let readers read the sires of 2021 articles eventually, im curious to read those, will join and pay a subscription later this year, will make things easier for keeping notes on the horses with as fewest words as possible
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double today takes Dark Angel top from Exceed and Excel and Lope de Vega.
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Having caught up with 2 days results today the lead is shared by Invincible Spirit and Exceed and Excel on 10 from Dark Angel 9 and Lope De Vega and Sepoy on 7.
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OMFG cant believe the top 10 table = screen shot
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got it 10.07 am
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The top 3 in the table all produced a winner at Newcastle this evening as did Kodiac. 2021 Leaders as of today:
Invincible Spirit and Exceed and Excel 13 Dark Angel and Dubawi 12 Lethal Force 11 Kodiac 10 |
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thanks for the update, been lil busy with threapy on my mind
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Exceed and Excel on 20 GB wins in 2021. Very impressive with today to come.
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2 more for Mayson today brings him to 16 and equal third place. I didn't see that coming.
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thanks for update, interesting table at moment , havent been keeping up with results, good to see man city top of table, even though im
an arsenal fan, klopp was getting bit to big for his boots |
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That Stone Soldier looks ok Sageform. He could well pick up a big handicap this year. Mayson's do ok as older horses if they survive their usual hard 2/3yo careers.
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let me know if you have any cash in hand work, can travel from london, dont need accommodation, getting bored of london with no cash
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At long last we can look at some 2yos to run on turf in the Brocklesby. Not sure any of the pedigrees impress me though.
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ill take a look, no money to bet, hopefully internet still ygoing until wednesday 31st, runsout on 29th
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roadrunner, some of your recent posts have seemed a bit off colour and you seem up against it at times.
I hope I have misread this and all is good tor you or at least are getting the support you need. Laying off the betting is never a bad thing though, so I am pleased for you in that respect! |
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YES go to AA meetings for the violence pub crawls , things getting much better, prefer being on racetrack seeing them in horses in the flesh, still have to learn about confirmation
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Can't see us back on course before June at the earliest. Although I have stopped going regularly, I might enjoy a sunny afternoon at Salisbury in July or August to see real horses again. Hope all is well for you roadrunner. I only bet to £2-5 stakes for the fun of it and my RTV subscription is about the same as my betting loss for a year. I was spending £1000 a year on Annual memberships so that has been a big saving.
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broke s22 is average field on paper , my ones not running, odds are not in the zone, j butler horse only cost a 1000, will hit 1000 IR first
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hope you played a blinder in the broklesby
 lincoln result was awesome too, love to meet up in magical salisbury, cant promise or make plans yet, be lucky |
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first group win for summerghand today, cost me playing safe putting oxted in 4timer, should done another £2 line, knew the favourite might not vbe fully tuned up, definitely getting back now the bookies open again, south kensighton william hill shop, my first landing zone for a payout.peter the great was disappointed that wasn't in my bet
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lope de vega is doing well so far on 28 wins for 2021, jan to end of june had 39 in 2019 and only 26 in 2020, will need to average 10
a month now to hit target 110-115, just catching up, returned around 97 points on the first 104 races at SP prices, superb so far |
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Dubawi has now taken the lead in GB flat wins in 2021 on 42. Three clear of Dark Angel and Exceed and Excel with Frankel close behind in fourth.
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lope de vega has returned 167.55 for 205 runs so far at SP prices , had a quiet spell last 3 weeks, interesting stats as well, theres been 26 winning older horses and only 6 three year old winners, just 1 two year old runner so far, expect the three year olds to catch up soon, talbeyah made a good impression LTO,
steps upto listed class tomorrow, the dam was a listed winner in france so has a nice pedigree, hopefully will give the favourite a run for its money, on paper looks between those two. |
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10 minutes later 3yo abstinence wins at 33/1 for lope de vega and ralph beckett, only have 10 trainers on my follow list (never changes) and hes one of them
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talbeyah was 2/1 at one stage, then drifted before the off, overbet written allover, came down the run-in with legs like a giraffe, maybe the track didn't suit
the horse, not a bad run beaten just over 3 lengths, the winner caught my eye when i done the maths, wasn't betting myself in the race, apologies for not posting my final thoughts, if you check golden horn's progeny nearly all the top 10 are fillies, anyways a very good weekend for lope de vega with 4 winners in last 3 days. |
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lope de vega has notched 40 wins for the season so far, first 6 months in 2019 = 39 wins and 2020 = 26 wins, the first dual F/C on monday when ispahan 11/10 favourite romped home by 4 lengths, and had first juvenile winner on debut, unfortunately the number that went through the sales ring in 2019 were down by around 15 & 20, compared to 2018-2020, im not to familiar with the dates, think im right, thats made it difficult reaching my target, we will see, going well so far.
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red mirage and indigo times from last years thread both won the other night on the same card, whats the chance of that happening, since than they have raced 9 times and won 7 times
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talbeyah was suited by the track today, the fact it is a slightly up hill finish most of the way makes it quiet a testing course which favours a big galloping horse, its not always easy to judge a horses size unless your at the track, was right about the track LTO
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