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25 Jun 20 23:00
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They cannot keep going with just sons of Galileo to offer.
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Report workrider June 26, 2020 10:40 AM BST
Why not. ?
Report Big Black Cat June 26, 2020 3:50 PM BST
They have substantially invested in the Scat Daddy line, with horses like No Nay Never, Caravaggio and Justify plus as a further alternative, American Pharoah.
Report Wilycayote June 26, 2020 4:48 PM BST
I can see Churchill being there next big classic sire

And one or more of Justify, No Nay Never, Caravaggio, Sioux Nation etc will carry on the Scat Daddy line for them.

Im a firm believer that had Scat Daddy lived until he was 20yo he'd have been as influential over the 5f-1m as Galileo is over 1m2f +
Report NEVIS B June 27, 2020 4:03 PM BST
Is NNN the most overhyped 6 figure stallion standing today?
Report Big Black Cat June 27, 2020 7:46 PM BST
Churchill I like, but I think Gleneagles, who has a real stallion's page, could be the one who steps up and replace his dad.
Report Big Black Cat June 27, 2020 7:47 PM BST
NEVIS I hope not as I have a small share in a 2yo colt by him :-)
Report Wilycayote June 28, 2020 9:52 PM BST
my guess is they'll stuff galileo, keep him in his stable, and keep breeding from him out of the freezer for another 5 years!! haha

they must have a full time job selling on the endless number of 115ish rated Galileo colts that arnt sexy enough to stand themselves but could do a
little job somewhere.

i wonder how close to the break line the coolmore business model is. They cant sell many Galileo noms if they use most themselves
Report cacique July 2, 2020 8:07 PM BST
I think they make a killing on the €15/25k range stallion.
There would be no foal shares on them and every nomination would be for money.
Also their National Hunt's will make a nice earner.

But the pressure is on to find the next super stallion.

they have no Dubawi's, Shamardal's, Dark Angel's

Only one Invincible Spirit, Kingman , Montjeu , Dansili, Deep Impact

They mined Storm Cat to no success, mining War Front with not great results (US Navy Flag could prove me wrong).
Report workrider July 3, 2020 5:58 PM BST
Invincible Spirit, stands at the I.N.S. Coolmore do NOT own him...
Report cacique July 3, 2020 7:48 PM BST
I know they don't own Invincible Spirit.

They also don't own Kingman, but they stand Calyx.

Its been a long time since they stood a Wildenstien horse.... surprised they didn't got for Persian King before Sheikh MoMo got him
Report Wilycayote July 4, 2020 11:18 AM BST
"they mined storm cat to no success"

- Johanessburg
- Scat Daddy
- No Nay Never / Caravaggio / Justify
- Ten Sovereigns / Wichita

crickey cacique your tough to please!!!

i think the Storm Cat line is the building block with which coolmore will dominate the next generation of bloodstock
Report truehoncho July 4, 2020 6:21 PM BST
When Galileo retires, all those brilliant mares that go to him will go somewhere else. Then they will produce another superstar sire. No one is replacing Coolmore in the foreseeable future. No one is even going to come close because most of the other outfits are just born with money and employ similar types to run their business. Darley is a under performing outfit with trainers not fit to wipe AOB's boots.
Report cacique July 4, 2020 7:46 PM BST
@ Wilycayoote
Johanessburg was sold to Japan as a ~10 year old... they didn't have much faith in him, surely Scat Daddy caught them by surprise.

Look at all the other Storm Cats they had... I think disappointing for the money they spent
Report Big Black Cat July 5, 2020 9:14 AM BST
Giants Causeway and his sister, and arguably their best broodmare, You'resothrilling were pretty important too.
Report cacique July 5, 2020 10:46 AM BST
hmmm, I'm loosing this without grace.

Either way, be interesting to see who will take over from Coolmore

They cannot keep going forever
Report truehoncho July 5, 2020 4:00 PM BST
They will probably see me and you out Cacique Excited
Report Big Black Cat July 6, 2020 10:24 AM BST
The lads won't last forever, but it was noticeable that the younger generation were out in force at Epsom at the weekend (Paul Smith).

I guess its a tidy business for them, so they probably don't want to let go!

I remember when they almost bet the Farm on the Scat Daddy line (partly as their ND line outcross), someone pointed out that investing in North American bloodstock was how the business took off (ND himself was Canadian bred I think?).
Report workrider July 6, 2020 2:34 PM BST
BBC, Paul is at most of the big meeting here,in fact hes at some of the smaller ones too...
Report cacique July 7, 2020 9:13 PM BST

Jul 5, 2020 -- 4:00PM, truehoncho wrote:

They will probably see me and you out Cacique


Be great to see a bit of competition though.....

Looking on them as purely an investment, my question to them would be "What is your plan to continue the domination once Galileo passes?"

Report workrider July 7, 2020 11:17 PM BST
Simple answer, His Sons....
Report A_T July 8, 2020 3:10 PM BST
after Galileo the best stallion in Ireland is Sea the Stars who they take no notice of whatsoever.
Report truehoncho July 10, 2020 9:29 AM BST
They will have a replacement without any worries. As I said all those mares producing classic winners for them wil keep doing so with G's successor. Its the mares that count.
Report sageform October 27, 2020 7:44 PM GMT
Most of us will be six feet down before they lose their dominance in Ireland.
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