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First list of the year shows Exceed and Excel well ahead of the field.
Exceed and Excel 18
Cape Cross 14
Kyllachy 13
Acclamation 12
Kodiak 12
Medicean 11
Sakhees Secret 11
Exceed and Excel 18
Cape Cross 14
Kyllachy 13
Acclamation 12
Kodiak 12
Medicean 11
Sakhees Secret 11
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Gambit was the first 2016 winner in GB for New Approach. expect a few more once they get back on turf.
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Sire tables for 2016 until today.
Sakhees Secret, Monsieur Bond and Bushranger all in the list of leading sires of GB flat wins for the first time. 2015 2016 Exceed and Ex. 130 25 Cape Cross 100 23 Kodiac 135 21 Kyllachy 91 19 Sakhees Secret 46 19 Kheleyf 73 18 Dark Angel 104 17 Iffraj 88 17 Shamardal 121 17 Acclamation 128 17 Medicean 50 16 Monsieur Bond 46 16 Pivotal 92 15 Bushranger 49 15 Champs Elysee 46 14 Invincible S 120 13 Sir Percy 76 12 Oasis Dream 94 11 Dansili 69 11 |
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apologies that the forum rearranges my nice table!
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A nice double for Sakhees Secret at Bath today. He's a classic case of a reasonable stallion that gets his winners, but for whom the market has simply moved on.
Bushranger showing he was never as bad as the market would have us believe. |
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 Coolmore team waiting for one of their stallions to appear on sageform's list. |
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Most of the Coolmore product are running in Ireland for twice the prize money
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Update to May 22. Dark Angel making progress into third while Galileo is taking advantage of recent rain with 3 on Saturday. 2015 total followed by 2016 to date. GB flat wins only. Apologies for the erratic placings of the numbers that are caused by Betfair rearranging my nice neat spreadsheet.
Exceed and Excel 130 39 Kyllachy 91 37 Dark Angel 104 35 Kodiac 135 33 Acclamation 128 32 Iffraj 88 29 Shamardal 121 29 Cape Cross 100 26 Pivotal 92 26 Oasis Dream 94 25 Bushranger 49 24 Sakhees Secret 46 24 Kheleyf 73 24 Monsieur Bond 46 24 Dubawi 104 23 Invincible Spirit 120 22 Galileo 51 21 Fastnet Rock 29 20 |
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Coolmore team are happy 17th and 18th on sageforms list.
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It could be coincidence but after 20 years of keeping my stats, I still think that progeny of some sires come good at certain times of year. Kyllachy has had a flurry of winners including the last at Musselburgh last night at 16/1 and he now leads on 42. The other sires in the winners recently are Mastercraftsman (11 in May) and Monsieur Bond (27 for the year) who is well on target to beat his previous best of 49 in 2011. A younger sire getting a lot of winners is Fastnet Rock, yet another Danehill, who is now on 23 for 2016. The effect of softer turf instead of AW on Galileo offspring is even more dramatic this year with just one win in Jan-March compared to 21 in April and May. Cape Cross has been rather quiet since a fast start in January but his peak months are often July and August so expect his offspring to start winning soon.
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Two more for Mastercraftsman today from 5 runners.
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Good old FASTNET ROCK covered 376 mares in 2012 and 2013 @ A$ 275,000.00 a pop = A$103,400,000. 00. It would be embarrassing to publish the amount of prize money won by his progeny.
MASTERCRAFTSMAN covered 313 mares in 2012 and 2013 and thanks to the Grey Gatsby and Kingston Hill,he now commands a fee of €35,000.00. |
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My reason for mentioning Mastercraftsman was that his total between Jan 1 and April 30 was 10. From May 1 to May 28 it was 13. Nothing to do with stud fee or the number of foals but your data is interesting. There must be an awful lot of them that are not winning or not racing in GB. Both of yesterdays winners were 3yo's over 12 furlongs which is perhaps surprising for a son of Danehill Dancer. Carnachy is his highest rated offspring to have run in GB this season (shame she didn't run yesterday) and I can only see 2 that have won over a mile, the rest 10 furlongs plus.
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Meanwhile the Kodiac 2yo machine keeps turning out winners. Prince of Lir and Grizzel both impressed at Beverley.
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I notice there is a Dubawi running today in The Oaks. Well done to the only representitive of every single stallion stud in the World.
Except one of course. The Gotchee, I await your picture to,represent the scene. . . |
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Overheard in the parade ring yesterday.
APOB. " Listen Ryan, the lads aren't happy with the way you have ridden over the last couple of days. Mr. Smith had a shoyte haemorrhage on Friday with the way you rode Minding and Michael has pulled out last few strands of his hair with that ride on U.S. Army Ranger today. It's not funny Ryan".  |
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Two for Galileo today moves him to move him up to 27, all bar one since April 1. After Sir Percy comfortably being the best Derby winner in my table last year, this time Galileo leads from Sea The Stars on 23 and Sir Percy on 22.
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Was that blank a message to me Gotchee?
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A surge of wins this week, the latest Kodi Da Capo at Hamilton, brings Kodiac up to 50 GB wins this year, 2 clear of Acclamation and Exceed and Excel on 48 each.
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Just noticed my mistake in the last post, Should have been Kyllachy not Acclamation. The leaders are all still siring winners so the current state of play is:
Kodiac 53 Kyllachy 52 including Twilight Son today. Exceed and Excel 51 Acclamation 46. a lot further down but in form recently is Authorised. He only has 14 GB wins this year but 8 of those were in June! Permission was an impressive debut winner at Newmarket. |
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"Whats going one here sageform"?
"We are the biggest operation in the world and we can't get one of our stallions on your list" This is not good enough for our reputable Stud Farm. Why don't you do a list for stallions that can sire winners who are slow and win races at Royal Ascot at a distance of over 2 miles.  |
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Chalk up one more for Acclimation yesterday with Marsha.
That may have not been the best renewal of that race ever but she bolted up. Jockey was quoted in the RP saying his arm had gone to sleep by half way she was pulling so hard but she still won with ears pricked. He described her as an aeroplane :-) Lets hope she is more Typhoon than Cessna :-) |
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She certainly looked a lot better than listed on that evidence but were any of the others listed class?
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Gotchee, if I was O'Brien and Coolmore I would not be unhappy with my stallion called Galileo. He may not get many all weather winners but you need to win 20 of those to get the same prize money as one at Royal Ascot. He has double the prize money of Sea The Stars who is currently second in the official table and 6 progeny rated 120 on RPR this season to date. My stats are deliberately based on a very different basis in order to show that relatively unfashionable sires do produce a lot of winners at a lower level while some expensive ones don't. Bushranger and Monsieur Bond continue to outperform their price but sadly the former is now in Turkey!.
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You're a good looking lad Sageform but I must admit from previous posts I had you as, how shall I put this, a more mature forumite. . .
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I am certainly mature, but not necessarily well informed. Not sure where that picture of my earlier life came from....
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the MB strike rate does look quite impressive. He had a little spell a few years ago when he got his fee up to £5k and covered a fair few mares. I assume we will see this feed into your stats in the next year or two. My opinion of him is that he doesn't get precocious types and hence he is slipping off the radar a little. If he can get a nice winner or two this year he is right up my street.
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Black Grass completed a 4 timer this evening. Bowson Fred, Crosse Fire and Agueroo all triple winners as well for MB.
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Sageform-there was one other horse in the race rate 100+ and Marsha was getting 10lbs from her.
The rest were handicappers-but she made them look like that anyway. She is in a Group 2 sprint in Ireland next month-if she runs there it will tell us more as to how good she is. |
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Thanks, she is with a trainer who likes to hide lights under bushels for as long as he can so anything is possible.
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The current plan is a listed race at York next month, followed by the Irish Gp2 and if all's well, The Nunthorpe is a possibility.....
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The Kodiac 2yo machine still working as On her Toes trots up at Windsor. Now on 56 for the year.
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Sire table to July 1 5.15.
GB wins for top sires in 2016 to date with 2015 for comparison. 2015 2016 Kodiac 135 57 Acclamation 128 55 Exceed and Excel 130 55 Kyllachy 91 53 Dark Angel 104 53 Shamardal 121 48 Dubawi 104 44 Oasis Dream 94 39 Pivotal 92 39 Iffraj 88 38 Cape Cross 100 35 Galileo 51 35 Monsieur Bond 46 33 Bushranger 49 33 Invincible Spirit 120 33 Dutch Art 80 32 Sea The Stars 38 32 Dansili 69 32 |
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Sea The Stars may not have the numbers but he is having a terrific year
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True, Both Galileo and Sea the Stars are doing really well in terms of quality winners. My table deliberately highlights number of wins but does not reflect the quality. It is also interesting that during the prevailing softer ground, Cape Cross and Oasis Dream are very quiet.
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Sageform-MARSHA does indeed run at York on Saturday.
This looks a much stronger race with a host of group/listed performers in it-so I guess we'll see how good she really is. PS don't expect to see her until the last possible moment........ |
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Thanks for that. As I expected, the firm ground sires are starting to get winners now. Oasis Dream, Invincible Spirit both with a win today but Cape Cross still quiet. Fawaareq was surprisingly easy to back and has set me up for the day.
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Permission also runs again today and looks very interesting although the pedigree does not indicate 7 furlongs.
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Wrote that too soon-Montataire wins for Cape Cross at Ascot.
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