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Its so difficult for us breeders to find an affordable proven stallion, but I seem to have concluded that it might be our own fault!
I think we expect too much of stallions with their first runners these days. I might be showing my age, but stallions used to be given a bit of a chance to prove themselves. Nowadays, if a stallion doesn't get 3 stakes winning 2yo's in their first crop (difficult for any stallion) we give them the boot. So I think we are probably missing out on stallions that would have been good if we had given them a bit more of a chance.
I am as guilty as the next breeder but perhaps the likes of Noverre, who I thought was prematurely binned, would still be churning out good horses at an affordable price if we were a little more patient. But as the Iron Lady used to say.."you cant buck the market"!
I think we expect too much of stallions with their first runners these days. I might be showing my age, but stallions used to be given a bit of a chance to prove themselves. Nowadays, if a stallion doesn't get 3 stakes winning 2yo's in their first crop (difficult for any stallion) we give them the boot. So I think we are probably missing out on stallions that would have been good if we had given them a bit more of a chance.
I am as guilty as the next breeder but perhaps the likes of Noverre, who I thought was prematurely binned, would still be churning out good horses at an affordable price if we were a little more patient. But as the Iron Lady used to say.."you cant buck the market"!
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What other stallions are in that bracket Wilycayote?
I think so many stallions are never expected to succeed by the stud keepers, just one good season will do. Look at Coach House, withdrawn from a sale where he wouldn't have made much more than £50k (if that) and will get 100 mares at 2-3k. He just wont make it, but a profit from a foal could be had.
**** way to breed though!!
I think so many stallions are never expected to succeed by the stud keepers, just one good season will do. Look at Coach House, withdrawn from a sale where he wouldn't have made much more than £50k (if that) and will get 100 mares at 2-3k. He just wont make it, but a profit from a foal could be had.
**** way to breed though!!
I don't have a problem with the less expensive stallions, it's good to increase competition for the big outfits that would otherwise get things all their own way. There are also plenty of examples of these stallions proving their worth; Kodiak, camacho, showcasing, big bad bob etc.
Wily I'm not sure we should beat ourselves up overly for the points you raise. The vast majority of stallions don't make it. It's a simple fact that means that for every Noverre that perhaps is regretted the vast majority never need be given another thought.
I suppose you could make a case for the status quo being all but desirable because Stallions still come from some odd places and the ones you mention above need to be given a chance so we can unearth the diamond in the rough.
I've had a little trip to a well known outfit in Tipperary recently - certainly one with a massive turnover! - and it wasn't the obvious Derby winner that floated my boat, that's for sure!
I suppose you could make a case for the status quo being all but desirable because Stallions still come from some odd places and the ones you mention above need to be given a chance so we can unearth the diamond in the rough.
I've had a little trip to a well known outfit in Tipperary recently - certainly one with a massive turnover! - and it wasn't the obvious Derby winner that floated my boat, that's for sure!
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