I'm all for it Roy Jones.

First season sires are highly prized by breeders because they are highly prized by buyers and actually even many owner breeders can get seduced by the new and the sexy.

Third and fourth year stallions are very high risk and to keep their books large, incentives on price are a good idea.

The price fluctuations you refer to are a very genuine marker of supply and demand economics. The rest of the world rolls to that tune, should our game not?

i agree with you PM, it is all about aconomic...

but the fee of coolmore stallion like pour moi and C Cliffs have a huge decrease

darley stallion like poet voice had a stable fee

i prefer the darley phylosophy
a lot of coolmore stallions have disappear last years quite fast

No Nay Never.

Coolmore seem to be on message this year at the 'commercial' end.

Might not sign my Fumble in the Bungle contract after all. . .

sad to go USA !!!
for those who do not have the money for frankel ;-)

OK, hands up, who had heard of Morpheus before yesterday?

Sorry to take so long to get back to you PM, I’ve had few iron’s in various fires and I didn’t want to jinx anything by saying anything too early.

I have finally (after 4 months) managed to find employment in the transport department of a well known Bloodstock Agency in Kildare and have just finished my first week there.  The commute from Tipp is an hour and a half which is the same as I did in England and the wage is less than a third of what I was earning in the UK, however I am loving it and am grateful for the opportunity to be involved with such an established company and in the Industry I love.

In the intervening 4 months I enjoyed the summer holidays with the kids and helped my wife set up a Racing Syndicate – Fun Fillies Racing – “Ireland’s Premier Racing Syndicate for Women” for a filly purchased at Tatts September sales (pics below).  The "Blade" is in a field and I've paid his keep bill upfront until Dec 2015 by which time he should be mended enough for a new career.

Kids are now settled in new schools, have a Pony to learn to ride on and their own chicken each so they are happy out.  I can’t say I miss the UK as a country, just the people in it.

I’ll be at the Goffs & Tatts foal sales so if any forumites fancy a pint or two just let me know.

Anyway back to the topic in hand, I have to say I’ve been fairly shocked by the fees this years, ok the sales have been good but the median for Tatts Oct was up 7% yet stallion fees seem to be up about 25%!  The studs are charging what they think they can get away with.  I was speaking to a renowned shrewd operator over here and he said he would have been all over No Nay Never but is having second thoughts at €20K when the likes of Dark Angel are €27.5.

Gale Force 10 at €5k certainly looks the value option so far but I'd say he will be very popular and you will be one of 150 odd if you do use him.  If you are looking to benefit from a future up year then maybe Dandy Man could be the way to go?

Don't think you'll be the only one waving the red white and blue flag. I still think there is a sparsity of options (if such a word exists), so I haven't yet been able to cross Captain Gerrard, Hellvelyn, Kheleyf or Delegator off the list in consequence but I think I should.

Hi Formtwist, I do like Compton Place but not for the mare in mind. I need to sell offspring and with fixed costs believe noms below £6k make this much more difficult. I could do with a degree of restocking but this will compromise the sire budget so I may be dredging deeper than usual particularly if I look to support any new mare with proven mates. Of course much of this may be pie in the sky and at some point my pension pot will need a jackpot to catch up on the small time investment thats been laid out so far. At this stage Charm Spirit is out of range and I am contrary enough to not want to be one of 150+ mares to any stallion, I dont think my 2 mares could stand out within those numbers. Although maligned on here for their level of fee setting I think the subsequent book size does give a better chance of a profit with for example a Cheveley Park mating, however I suspect Garswood might get flooded on first season due to lack of competition at that fee level.

Why does Ballyhane need another middle of the road son of Galileo? I'd have thought they would wait to see if Rodderic pans out for them first.

not a big fan of this one...or have I missed an angle?

Coach House - £3,000.00.  Now when I saw it my initial thought was Coach Who? but on closer inspection his pedigree looks ok, his dam was decent and he certainly looks value, the UK's version of Gale Force Ten.

Albaasil, £1750 Longdon Stud.

I think Coach House at £3k looks better value than Morpheus at 6k Euros.

Goffs foal sale looks hot, anyone from this forum poked a head in there?