Compton Place

That's unfortunate for him without Deacon Blues running as like you I thought he was a GR1 horse,I too have in a way been expecting his slip form commercial appeal just like Piccolo due to his age but then bingo look how the buyers went for him last year.
One thing that's interesting with Compton Place is his foal/yearling prices are very similar,I wonder if the prices paid at Tatt's last Dec' sale will return a profit when re-offered later on this year I somehow doubt it really.I've personally tended to view him as a bit boring but I'm looking again at him as like you say he does stamp his foals and for his fee he is value.

i have not had any luck with cp thou he sends out enough winners pearl secret looks a smart prospect for him but as you say he's probably on the slippery slope

He's not been my cup of tea - not mad on the family and hasnt suited possible mares.  Throws some nice horses so will probably bubble away but sire doesnt enhance the package imo. Hard to see a convincing case for pinhookers going to £30-40k, r they really going to make £60k+ yearlings? There have only been two sold at that level in last two years I think.

Although they may not be the most glamorous team I think all of Whitsburys stallions by dint of price and book size give breeders as good a chance as any for breaking even.

Just thinking about this it occurs to me that perhaps whilst in Ireland you get much more choice in the speedy commercial new stallion (which ofcourse we hate you for!) the fact that we have fewer perhaps means they get slightly better mares. Couple this with not as many newly retired competitors then perhaps a  speed stallion does have a bit more potential for longevity over here? 

Kyllachy is a better sire than Compton Place but Cheveley Park are always that bit too fruity with their fees. I think that, like proxygene, Whitsbury do the best job over here. They don't cover enormous books and therefore their potential marketing budget (or market distortion budget) is not as great as some, but that is balanced by the market not being flooded. It's really just about your decision on how you like to see the potential stallion for your mare managed.

Mon Bond has potential and so does Dutch Art. I think Dutch Art has plenty of potential at a level, but as Prima Donna says it might not be at the level that Cheveley choose to price him!
I cannot give too much thought to Equiano until a little water has gone under the bridge - any foals seen anyone? I also don't forget that Kheleyf started at 4k and as Darley's 'fits all dealing horse' too. So he is not without a squeak for sure but he has to get past the legions of poor mares he has covered in various seasons dictated by a fluctuating popularity.

Sakhee's Secret gets good looking sane types so not hard to like if the results start coming in.

Last years rash of Invincible Spirit/Oasis Dream types should throw up a few contenders - unless they are so similar they cancel each other out!

I'm a fan of PPursuits, as I think (as a cheap option) he has the ability to put a bit of class into his offspring, even if they can be a little highly strung.

Us Brit breeders really struggled this year with such a poor crop of new stallions retired this year. Hope CPlace can battle on for a few more years as he's a great bread and butter option.

I'm not convinced about Bahamian Bounty its true he has been pretty good overall but I wonder if now he's looking played out.We have been told for ages he's good and better to come thing is though were are the good ones?I'd of hoped for some real classy sorts for standing for his fee.His son P'Pursuits made a very encouraging start but buyers went off him pretty quick saying that its not impossible for him to bounce back but if he is going to make it he needs to.The UK does have more commercial choice with this sort of sire as Wilcayote calls 'bread and butter' here we have Clodavil,Tugula and poss'Camacho,Elnadim,Intikhab and Key of Luck,but the UK sires in that league are better and overall more reliable.
Kyllachey is a good sire and does have a future I was saying a few months ago he was 'old hat' but I'll take that back another is my friend Monsieur Bond of the stallions listed on this thread he's one I wouldn't mind having a filly by as he's done well with them like he has with his colts.Personally I think Compton Place will hold his appeal but if he does slip then my moneys on either Kyllachy or Monsieur Bond both of these offer good value but Mon Bond is better priced for now at least.

David Redvers said today that Pearl Secret is so good it gives him goose pimples thinking about his future.If he is as good as what connections feel(he looked very good today) then Compton Place foal buyers from last years Tatt's Dec'hopefully will feel it was right to pay so much for them.It will be great if at 18 years old Compton Place can get a top horse,lets hope so.

Thanks for the info Prima, interesting to hear DRedvers so excited as he's had a few decent horses to think about.

Agree it would be nice to see Compton Place get a good horse this year, but it was only last year he had a sprinter Timeform rated 130, thats not too bad!

Is your source reliable Prima?

I only ask as I gather discounts were quite generous and it was easy to name the slot you wanted when booking a cover earlier in the season. Perhaps all the action happened a little later on.

I do think he has a Compton Place look about him particularly as I don't really see either of them as 2yo sires even though that's the market perception of them. I think their progressive and sound progeny keep Compton afloat and hopefully M Bond will reach that sort of hardy annual niche too.

With you there yer ma. Compton never went over 110 I reckon, and as you say under 100 these days. A massive book following on from a few tiny ones ain't a great recipe in my cookbook.

I am starting to sense a bit of a seachange this season. Clodovil is doing well, although he is always going to be up and down because he lacks consistency and book quality must vary hugely. Dutch Art and Dark Angel aren't going backwards. Ifraaj profiles like Clodovil but I imagine is a keeper and look even Sixties Icon is in with a shot!

These are horses that get plenty of winners and some with quality. I think the old guard that we discuss so often on here at the < 10k level are looking vulnerable.

I would indeed truehoncho,but I reckon it pains Pot M to add him to the list!

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!Go on then Pot M surprise me,and just who are you calling a tight @rsed b'stard?

Gosh 200 quid every time you agree with me.........at that rate I'll be getting you to pay this years nominations bill!Mind you with that looming if I were you I'd start agreeing with EVERYTHING I say from now on!And just for the record your man's telling fibs as I always pay up.

Bahanian Bounty,standing this season for 8.5k does anyone know how many mares he had this year and what was he trading for?I've been told 6k but that may not be the true,does anyone know?I more than likely will go and see him at the July meeting but I'd be interested to know those points.
I have a young winning mare who is 15.3hh with a terrible lot of quality he could be just the sort to put some substance on her whilst giving her a good chance of getting an early winner.

That's good to know about your friends mare so at least I can feel I will get a good sort if I use him.tell me does he have plenty of bone?He looks like he has from his 'photos and its years since I last saw him.I didn't know he only had the one but but that being the case his fertility isn't that bad at 77.5%(2010).7k........I'd want him for less but maybe I'd settle for 6k I will see what the English National stud offer me.She is an ideal mare for Clodovil who is one who sits in this territory and is closer as you can imagine but I think he may get a small one with her so hence me thinking of BB.

I know what you are saying about Clodovil and like you I wonder how he will look in a year or two's time as I see his numbers are slipping back a little,but he's done well enough,I also like the fact he's out of a Linamix mare as he has worked so well with this little mares family before,in fact he's produced two GR1 winners from close relations of the mare but I'm inclined to be of the opinion that with her I could end up with another 'my little pony'type.
It does seem dead on here of late not sure where everyone is doubt people are on holiday what with Ascot next week but with all the rain about it does seem a good idea to try to get some sun.Talking of Ascot are you going?And no I'm not anti Kheleyf but this is make or break year for him it could go either way more than likely the same could be said for his fee for next year!
I've never been mad on BB and I do agree he sells better than poss' he should but the ones of his I've seen are good sorts I cant think that I've seen any rats by him,that's why he came into my mind with the mare as she needs a horse who will put a touch of size/bone and help her to get the early winner.So I will listen to you and agree it is the way to go.I was thinking about Compton Place himself but don't really want a filly by him so BB it may well be.

Well, we had an excellent BB colt a few year's back - pattern winner and Group 2 placed, so you can work out which mare! We now have a yearling filly to sell this year but whether she will make enough for us to actually sell remains to be seen. She's a good looking but unflashy chesnut filly and if she has her dam's grit, she'll be OK.

Her second foal was a Compo and he was a decent colt too - as tough as teak and pattern winner. I like the horse - he's always done me very well.