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Evening all, as a Fraam mare owner always watching what nicks work etc. Probably passed all the big time breeders by but another winner today taking it his totals to 6 of 7 winners and 8 winners from 24 runners if RP stats correct. Any thoughts on this or freak of stats, as no notable winners to date.
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Just out of interest Littleun2, do you breed from your mare? Interested to know what stallions you've been visiting if you are.
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yes, she was a decent AW horse won a class 2 over mile. She has a 2 year old colt by Tillerman who will need time, lost her second foal and missed last season and is scanned in foal to Firebreak now and will probably go to Newmarket sales
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Magical Music?
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yep
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No fluke about it,i have always liked Fraam as a racehorse , stallion,and now as a dam sire,he had a knack of producing tough good looking stock from largely ordinary mares,why dont you hang on to your mare ?
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she's a good looking laid back mare. We are selling up unfortunately.
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Why liitleun2?are you loosing money or just had enough?
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long story... We always lost money over the few years in the game but thats not the issue
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long story... We always lost money over the few years in the game but thats not the issue
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Sorry to hear that,it can be a tough game,have you still got your Misu Bond?cant remember if its a colt or filly,think you sold one of them last Dec'sale am I right?
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Have a misu bond colt to run with Dandy Nicholls and have his full sister who will go to Doncaster. Sold a colt foal last year and have a full brother to him, was at Hedgeholme today and he's better foal than last years.
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Littleun2. I too think that Fraam had a lot going for him, but sadly never quite lifted off. I used him many years ago but sadly had a late abortion which also sealed the fate of a borderline mare so not a good experience!
I'll probably follow you down the dispersal route soon enough but I've got another year dreaming of the 'big one' left in me I hope. In the meantime I hope that your 'long story' resolves itself and you can get back in on some level. |
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Thanks, dreaming of a big one. We just hoped for a winner [;)]I definately want to get back into it in future if I end up selling up.
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 Whats the expert view on this foal..... |
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Experts? Are you thinking of another site[;)]
I subscribe to the view that you can belittle a man's wife, child, mistress, mother, anytime you like before you criticise his horse! (Ditto a woman probably) But there are nice things to say about your foal Littleun for sure even though it is at a slightly awkward stage or standing on a hill  or probably both my guess?Plenty of bone and the outline of something that won't take to long, it seems to have made a good start in life. Long may it continue! |
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its not the best picture, best foal mare had for a few years. shes 26 days old and much bigger than last few foals. I'm impressed with the upload photo option
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Picture looks fine to me,is it by you know who?Looks like its sire 'stamps' them,peas in a pod I'd say.
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Almost bred the first Misu Bond winner just couldnt hold on at a very windy Thirsk. Hopefully Dandy can find a little race for him
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Well done Littleun2 8,L winner!!Have a pint on me,improving horse one to keep our eyes on,the best of luck.
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Good Luck with him Koo...........
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Thanks Prima. Was just down the road from me so was nice to be there. Interesting to see where he will go next. Happy I still have his yearling full sister now!
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Congratulations Littleun2. Lovely when they skip clear like that as you get the win and a good crack at dreaming of the next one!
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Despite his size he had quite a lot going for him at those prices. Hopefully can have a bit of fun with this one and add to his sires tally.
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Hi Koo, you going to stick to sellers and claimers or give him a bash at something better? I think he deserves chance after fast time in Scotland before easy Redcar win
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considered the nursery at Chester over 6. But will also consider the claimer at Southwell as well, mainly as there's another claimer a month after, so if he handled it the first time well you have an excellent chance the 2nd. I dont mind spending money on entry fees and seeing what the race shapes look like.
Also 2 valuable sellers at Haydock and Newbury to consider. Timeform gave him a faster speed figure for Redcar but i liked the fact pre redcar that they had done the 5f faster than Lost in Paris had. Would have bought the winner at Muss but didnt know anyone there. So when Pint Size won so easy it was an easy decision to buy him for 6k. Would have paid prob upto 12 for the Muss winner. |
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2nd winner today for Misu Bond,Bop it wins class'4.Looks a nice little prospect.A very good looking colt who made 40k last year,understand his trainer rates him.Lets hope he does go on.
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Just watched with interest, definately on the upgrade. I have a nice colt foal by Misu Bond at home now, his full brother was bought as a foal last year for a pin hook so interesting to see where he turns up.
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Littleun2,
Did you see the 'photo of my daughters Misu Bond yearling?If you did what do you think of it and how do you think it compares to stock by him? |
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I liked her, she looks very strong and racey.... She is very different to Pint Size's sister who I also have at home. He was more like your daughters filly not as impressive mind. My filly is atheletic, nice walker but needs to fill out her back end. She is the 13th foal I've bred and my favourite to date just something about her.
I like his stock alot used him 4 times and plan on using him next year with my fraam mare |
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In case anyones bothered and havent seen, Pint Size makes his debut for me tonight at Southwell in a claimer. Thought id stay in the bottom rung for now to basically see if he can handle the surface as claiming races are usually very weak here and if he can adapt to the surface then there might be a stack of races to be won without being too ambitious.
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Good luck Koo but not sure he's got the best surface tonight......
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Best of luck Koo.
No reason he shouldn't handle the surface. DDs go on the AW, as do progeny of the dam sire, the dam won on AW herself. |
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Well two of the progeny have on fibresand - and although Dam has too (Wolverhampton was fibresand in 94) that was a 4 runner race. Watch the low knee action lto - not ideal. Not saying he cant win just would rather be a layer than a player at the price....
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well done Koo - i obviously got that one wrong......
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its only small and with the new premium charge if i lost a few horses for good money imo then who cares
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Now gone for 11k to Gay Kellaway. I wish them all the best with it
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Did you think he would do it that easily Koo? second faster than first race too. All good for his sister.
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I felt he should win but never considered a win so easy. Think the 2nd and 3rd favs havent run well.
He ended up only beating a horse 7l who hed beat 13l the time before. So not sure how fast hes run until the speed gure's do the time. Wish id pitched him in for more now obviously. But ive got close to 25's so if i can win claimers with a few and make a profit this way then thats not too bad. Wonder if Gay plays the claimers route or tries her hand in something better, another reason i went claimer route is i felt the handicapper might have given him 75 so wouldnt look brilliantly handicapped. He might get 80 now after that so again he might be best in claimers. |
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You have more insight to me Koo having owned the horse for a little while. Watching the race again looks like the jockey had alot left under him. I think he deserves a chance at higher level, especially on firmer ground.
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