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PHS
13 Feb 10 21:46
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Just been looking at some of the progeny of Giant's Gauseway, who stands in the US at USD100,000, in particular those that have run at Kempton.

I'm astounded by how unsuccesful they seem to be considering the sums paid.

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By:
PHS
When: 13 Feb 10 21:55
^at 7/8f. better at 10f.
By:
ben10
When: 15 Feb 10 16:30
Got a decent all weather record overall, what is his Kempton record out of interest? I'm a big fan of him, reckon he'll get even better mares for the next couple of years, picking up Storm Cat's old ones.
By:
Shark12
When: 15 Feb 10 16:38
Kempton - 8 winners from 84 runners....9.5%
By:
ben10
When: 15 Feb 10 17:49
Cheers
By:
jmc27
When: 17 Feb 10 17:21
Have I got this right your questioning Giant Causeways fee on his Kempton runners stats. I think his $100,000 fee is more on him been last years North American Champion Sire think he was the sire with most stakes winners aswell in North America.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 17:34
Joker.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 17:39
I think Giantscauseway may end up being at least as good if not better than his sire Stormcat.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 17:40
Still Stormcat had a good sire ;)
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 17:54
Why does Storm Cat not show up under Stormbird sired horses ( ratings ) on the Racing Post website ?
By:
ben10
When: 17 Feb 10 18:01
Storm Cat ran before the Racing Post kept records of form so he wouldn't appear on there. Personally would like to see them go back and add significant older horses' records, don't see why they don't to be honest.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 18:05
Just checked out his race record was a very good 2yo in America, just beaten in the Breeders Cup Juvenile.
By:
ben10
When: 17 Feb 10 18:21
His most expensive yearling runs tomorrow in Dubai, Jalil.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 18:26
He looked to be progressing well ,until they raced him in the Dubai World Cup.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 18:28
May as well send him to stud.
By:
ben10
When: 17 Feb 10 18:44
He's a nice looking horse from the photos I've seen and obviously has a good pedigree so probably the plan at some point. Not sure he'll get the 9.7 million back still though!
By:
Prima Donna
When: 17 Feb 10 18:45
Would you want to use him?
By:
ben10
When: 17 Feb 10 18:48
Depends on his price surely? Wouldn't have thought he'd be standing in Britain anyway due to him being a dirt horse.
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 18:49
America or Canada, is where i would try him .
By:
Stormbird
When: 17 Feb 10 18:50
I remember Nick Mordin raving about this horses speed figure when he won the Gpr 2 race in Dubai , think he tipped him against Curlin in the World Cup.
By:
Giant Strides
When: 18 Feb 10 08:59
Thought this was a GS thread not a SC one!
By:
Giant Strides
When: 18 Feb 10 09:00
Sorry GC...
By:
push
When: 19 Feb 10 13:21
Did GCW get any good 2yos , now 3yos in Europe, or any to look out for ?
By:
push
When: 19 Feb 10 13:28
Viscount Nelson
By:
ben10
When: 19 Feb 10 13:29
Shintoh
By:
ben10
When: 19 Feb 10 13:29
Saying in France
By:
push
When: 19 Feb 10 13:34
Shintoh, ran in the maiden race won by Kingsfort, has a top class pedigree, Trained by Bolger , and only 2 races :0 Could make a nice 3yo.
By:
ben10
When: 19 Feb 10 13:38
Related to War Chant
By:
jmc27
When: 19 Feb 10 19:47
Eightfold Path (NAP)

Wachman has one out of All too Beautiful who will be worth watching out for!
By:
push
When: 19 Feb 10 19:56
jmc27, Eightfold Path, excellent pedigree, from what he has shown to date on the course may struggle to get 1 mile, still open to loads of improvement and with a top trainer P.Bary.
By:
ben10
When: 19 Feb 10 21:03
Forgot about Eightfold Path, out of Divine Proportions. The Niarchos family colours long overdue in the winner's enclosure for a classic.
By:
PHS
When: 25 Mar 10 19:28
8/11 GC Filly beat tonight
By:
STELLAR MANIPULATOR
When: 25 Mar 10 21:21
he has been somewhat disapointing relative to expectations entering stud but he is the sire of the current KY Derby fav Eskerendaya
By:
Giant Strides
When: 25 Mar 10 23:08
I think it`s fair to say GC has not delivered on his initial promise, particularly in Europe.
His first crop was exceptional but now he seems more likely to sire a champion chase winner than a Gr1 miler!
Still never detract from his performances on the racecourse though. What a horse!
By:
PHS
When: 25 Mar 10 23:52
My initial reason for starting the thread, was not to knock GC, merely to point out that his progeny are doing rather badly over 7/8f at Kempton. My theory is that they need 10f.

Several of the running comments seem to be similar to tonights;

2
11 6 Goolagong (IRE) 8/11F 3 8-10 R M Beckett
By:
Giant Strides
When: 04 Apr 10 00:22
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/awesome-act-slammed-by-eskendereya-in-america/699179/top/

I suppose Coolmore wont mind if he cant win races around Kempton if he gets the Kentucky Derby winner!
By:
ben10
When: 04 Apr 10 00:29
Very impressive, worthy favourite although was a really slow pace and Awesome Act pulled like a train for 75% of the race.
By:
Giant Strides
When: 04 Apr 10 00:34
Didn`t see it but he appears to be the one to beat in Kentucky. Not before time he`s got a decent dirt animal!
By:
ben10
When: 04 Apr 10 00:42
For sure, a performance like that gets people talking, especially as it's his second time doing it. Still the Lexington and Blue Grass Stakes to go which could shake things up further.
By:
ben10
When: 04 Apr 10 00:43
Just to add, the first time he did that sort of performance the two horses behind him got a 1-2 in their next race, a Group 1, so the form may be stacking up...
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