How much longer until Josie goes favourite again please?

thicket.

keep waiting

The poor lass is a depressive character, it's what causes her overeating. The first few weeks she was happy and chirpy and gave people an idea of what could be, but it was just the stimulation of a new environment.

Now she's reverted to type and waddles around with a duve looking miserable.

With Sam she should have had one bash at anger and then, if he continued, laugh it off and ignore him. I think it's how Corin would have handled him.

Actually, make that Tuesday...

JJ will overtake her again

Tues 24th for me, chomps

Actually, make that Monday...

JJ1 to be the next favourite in my opinion.

Actually, make that about 11pm Sunday imo...

LOLZ, one of the biggest jokes in Betfair history was Corin going odds on. Quite ridic.

thickets

josie is a horrible person

shut up chompy u total c*ck muncher.

What a seriously unpleasant buffoon you are lionrock

ikel gave the right description.the thumb sucker won.t get a second look when the eyeliner plonker gets out..

If JJ went, I'd be concerned she'd win

only nice peeps win big bro so that rules out josie

WRONG!

Define 'nice'

When is the final?(I dont mean the ultimate bb)

For what it's worth (and I have no interest in trading insults, but more than happy to hear alternative views), I have Josie and Corin closer in the betting than the odds currently imply.
This morning I noticed that Lads were longest about Corin and shortest about Josie and I can see where they are coming from. There is something of 'every woman' about Josie who is facing the aged old dilemma of being 'in love/fancying' a man who she suspects/knows doesn't really fancy her, but who is clinging on pretty certain that ultimtely she is going to get rejected.
There are any number of scenarios that could play out that could not only scupper the chances of Josie, in which case, in all probability, Corin is the default winner. However, there are enough scenarios out there which would make the 'Josie story' by far the most compelling narrative in this year's Big Brother.
Personally (and this is only my view), I found Josie more interesting and more entertaining than Corin. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Corin (I thought she was brilliant with the Tree of Temptation
for instance), but for me, there is something slighgtly one-dimensional about her - almost like she has been written as a character who works behind the bar at the 'Rovers Return' - think
Bet meets Elsie. If Corin wins then good luck to her. She will have deserved to have won, but my instinct suggests that there is more mileage in Josie at the current prices.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Regards to All.

Define 'nice'

craig, brian, kate, cameron, nadia, anthony, pete, brian, rachel, sophie, jack dee, mark owen, nice bez, chantelle, shelpa , ulirikakaka, alex

I agree 100% LG

Corin has had no story, and cant be manufactured one.  She is far too stepford wife for me.  I cant identify with her at all, and would prefer Josie as a mucker any day of the week.

Josie is suffering in there, needs help, and like sophie has lost some of her sparkle, but she is still funny, vulnerable and like you said 'every woman' at some point or other, be it weight, hair, looks, un-requited love or even a monthly mood swing.

Corin has none - she is just funny, but it seems contrived to me.  Just my opinion fwiw.

The average BB voter is young and female.
The majority of these will be any of the following - overweight, plain, insecure.
Josie is young, down to earth, easy to talk to, witty, sharp, defends her corner, overweight, plain, insecure.
These are the reasons I lumped on at double figures and haven't traded any back.
She and Corin will both be in the final and one or other will win.
LOL @ Corin being 'slightly' one dimensional.
She is a false favourite, as were the twins ahead of Brian Bellend. Justice was served there and will be again imo.

Hard to disagree with much of that lg.

Josie's storyline is a big positive for her over Corin, who as you say is more of the tart with the heart behind the bar who gets some funny lines but isn't one of the main characters.
I also think the fact she looks 35+ is a negative for her.

On the plus side she has few negative personality traits and reasons for people to not want her to win, whereas Josie has many.

Josie is sloth like and lazy, doesn't put much effort into the tasks and can have an overly negative, whingey, moaning attitude towards herself and those around her.
She's a glass half empty person and those types rarely win these shows.

Corin's half glass full, positive attitude is more in line with previous winners.

You also have to ask who the Prods would prefer in the all stars.
I assume they will want a celebratory 2 weeks and someone like corin  buzzin and luvin it will possibly be more to their liking than a downbeat Josie pining for JJ.

It will be interesting to see who gets the plum tasks.
My money would be on corin.

I do worry about where the ceiling is for Corin's support, as I do have a nagging suspicion it's lower than I and many others would like to think.

For every person that find her funny and endearing, there seems to be another that finds her tedious, irritating and a little bit fake.

Certainly enough support to get 2nd, but I'm more unsure about winning. But then the alternatives are just so unappealing.

Bizarre year - every housemate has so many flaws.

Who hasn't had ToT yet? I guess a Dane effect could happen if they give them a really good one.

There could also be a Rodrigo and the queen / Ivana and Kugelfresh award type day still to come.

agree too FLL..... josie does seem to be 'mostly horizontal'.. and it annoys the hell out of me!..

She is also shown quite often just eating - she probably doesnt eat more than Dave, Steve or any of the boys, but they are not shown when stuffing their faces on HL's.  Thats a negative. It makes me cringe for her tbh.

corins 'half full glass' annoys me too though, seems fake and ignorant - again just my opinion.

Personally I would prefer Pepper in the allstars, and I also dont think the JJ&J fanbase is rapidly decreasing and switching to sam pepper, it seems more like the established anti-jjj'ers (and ben fans etc) now have a voice in the show again with supporting pepper. I feel he has taken some of corins temporary fanbase since ben left.

How important do you think the all stars factor is?

I can't imagine Josie sticking it for another 2 weeks knowing JJ's on the outside, i don't think she'd do it.

I think with JJ & J - you buy one, get one free evictionwise.... if its this week only.

Depends on how much of a game-player either of them are.  If they are clever, they would milk the separation for all its worth for a few days, and then have a blast in the final week.

I think both would stay tbh.  Josie because it would smack JJ in the face over how popular she is (if he doesnt want her) and I think she is after the cash.

JJ doesnt need the cash, but would like to be loved as he wants to live here.  Not sure he would be really arsed unless they manage to put some legends in.

Pepper and Corin would enjoy allstars (pepper because he hasnt had a long stretch, so is still fresh) and corin just because...
I think the allstars is a potentially very different factor, and would make me think on finals night.

I would have thought it was very important to them.

They'd want someone who was certain to actually go in for starters.

They must have their doubts over JJ and Josie.

leveller - I don't think the JJJ fanbase is rapidly decreasing, but I do think there's a slow drift away from and Sam will benefit a fair amount if that continues.

I agree he's also picking up plenty of votes from Corin.

a slow drift away from JJJ*

Why has Josie suddenly become a big market mover? I've not followed things since Fri night's eviction and struggling to understand why Josie is being backed and Corin has drifted out. Surely John James should be at 4.3 rather than Josie if people are going down the line of thinking JJ's army of teenage fans can help him on to outright victory.

she had a good show last night jr, and has been a bit self depreciating, whilst also warming to Sam a bit (well defrosting is a better word) and stopping with the strop.

It'll never last

Laughing Gravy is spot on, I agree entirely.

great post lg. shame we haven't heard more from you over the course of the show.

jr - I think the small drift on Corin is justified, as Pepper coming in has stolen some of her vote.
So someone had to shorten. With JJ getting fairer edits with them showing exposing his negative traits more and more, the market didn't think it should be him.
It's settled on Josie, who you could maybe justify a small move for from the 8 on friday to maybe 6 now, but the 4.3 is ridiculous.

As you say, JJ is the one the tweenies absolutely adore and many won't vote for anyone if he goes, which I think he could this week.
Some will switch to Josie, but also plenty will go Sam and Corins way.
Especially Sam, who is the stand out value in the field now for me.

thanks fll - a day is certainly a long time in BB world. I'm baffled as to how the vote transference is calculated.
I'm still red on Josie and am not about to start backing her. I cannot have her winning this series. If she does, I'll take the hit and say well done to those who did back her.

Hi JR, how did you get on at HQ?  Good start here with the first couple of races, prob the same for you.  Cecil runners really did me yesterday.  I thought they both looked pretty mediocre on form and felt there should be something to beat them.

hi squares - managed to make a small profit. Backed Spanish Duke, Morning Charm & Titbit. Thought that old rogue Redford was going to win for a minute. I'm a huge Cecil fan so annoyed to miss out on Plato - he did look exposed, but there was money for him and I came close to joining in the gamble, figuring he may improve for racing on soft ground over 12f. And so it proved.
It was a top day - they have improved the Premier enclosure at the July Course out of all recognition, and nice to have room to see horses, get to the bar etc.

Have you not been there since they expanded all that bar area out the back and added all those wooden buildings?

There were really quiet on Saturday.  Friday nights they are heaving.

TheY - ffs

go every year squares but it seems to look better each time - think they have expanded Premier since last year, made improvements with bar areas, and food options much better than they were (but I'm talking there about the general admission bit where all the eateries are). Much prefer it when it's quieter - Friday's are too packed out to be enjoyable. Yesterday was like a throwback to going racing there circa 1988 when it was a handful of racegoers - with 2 Cecil winners just like the old days!!!

All in lay at current price, imo[;)]

Corin backers should be worried imo.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1119120

http://www.bigbrotheronline.co.uk/bigbrother11_2010/uk_news/week_9_big_brother_11/is-corin-forshaw-fake.htm

BBOL is becoming a bit of a joke lately.
Clearly their articles are written with their bets in mind, which appear to be unsuccessful bets on the whole.

Yet still their poll has 35% against Corin 65% postive, which is better than the Belo poll ;)

FLL, you should probz try to get one opinion fixed in your mind and never move away from it, despite all the evidence to the contrary. This will probz make you a winner in the long term.

Sigh.

Corin WILL NOT win. She is a vacuous orange buffoon. HTH

Thanks thicket.

Here comes Josie...

Chatterbox Rachel has now gone, but who's your favourite housemate as we go into Week 9?


Andrew  1%
Corin  21%
Dave  5%
Jo  1%
Joe John/ JJ2  1%
John James  29%
Josie  20%
Mario  2%
Sam  19%
Steve  1%

Chompy
With antogonistic posts like the above it makes me wish I had started a new thread about Josie rather than come in on yours.

Why be so unpleasant?

We all get it right some times and we all get it wrong at other times.

Corin could easily win this event and how stupid would we look then?

You are more than welcome to join my Josie thread lg, lovely to see you are still around mate.

FWIW five leaves left (one of the most respected posters on here IMO) and most who bought Corin at the big prices will have had ample opportunity to not only green up their books, but make this a winning BB regardless of the outcome.

As this is a Josie thread, has anyone been keeping a calendar for PMT/blob watch.  Anything due any time soon?

DS will tell you squares

I think she has had about 4 so far!

Nadia won in a canter and as unnatural as it was, appeared to be on blob most of the time.
He/she made Josie look like Mother Theresa.

One "big" reason why Nadia could get away with it tho.

Was it because she was Portuguese?

nope

Was it because he looked like a pug that had been chasing parked cars?

nope

Legs like Ernie Wise?

shut up Pakey

Dennis Wise?

IS the orange atrocity still odds on please? rofl

At what time do we all think the favourites will flip flop today please? Sometime around 9.30pm imo.
I suggest a few of you return to the top of this thread.
Learn the game thickets

Let the records show the correct answer was...

12.15pm, Tuesday 10 August

I thank you

When it comes down to it I think Corin will take this in a hack canter - and for pretty much same reasons that Sophie won last year. All the opposition have huge negatives against them and she only has minor negatives so will pick up all the positive support she has (substantial) and face very little negative opposition. I don't think it will be all that close in the end.

Could add that with the tragedy she has faced in her real life, she is a very 'deserving' winner too.

Hopefully Corin's girlfriend helped her get over the tragedy, boefore the caring Corin publicly dumped her on national tv by going for a couple of the housemates.
Her real life tragedy almost makes Stevo's real life tragedy pale into insignificance shrewd [;)]

Stevo had plenty to do with his own fate - Corin's was pretty cruelly thrust on her, big difference. Personally I would rather lose both legs than lose a spouse (who she has obviously never fully got over, hence the strange change in sexuality).

I know what you're saying about her OH, but I don't think the public have really latched onto this, and she can be forgiven a lot given her past if that is an issue at all.

Mystic Chompy thread quotes....

Give it until Wednesday imo - FACT.
Actually, make that Tuesday...
Actually, make that Monday...
Actually, make that about 11pm Sunday imo...

could u hedge your bets anymore???
and amazing how u suddenly realise this pearl of wisdom after she starts falling quickly in the market. not exactly ahead of the game.

what a tool.

Stevo served his country and suffered as a consequence.

From the way Corin has chased unibrow and then JJ in the small amount of time she has been in there, she wouuld appear to have recovered in some way. (her girlfriend will also testify to this)
She is hardly acting like the Greek widows and wearing black for the rest of her life.

FWIW I would say that currently Steve has the most to put up with in his life.

Well I suppose it's debateable - they've both faced difficult things in their lives for sure.

She isn't acting like a widow I agree, but I don't really see this as a negative in the competition - the fact that she can be the positive person she is despite what happened to her, and hold very little signs of bitterness (which she would be entitled to do) are huge positives for her.

Agreed shrewd, I'm not totally sure about how many of the finals night voters will know her full story, whereas Steve's is always there on display.

Anyway, a Josie win and Stevo for top male will do me nicely.

There's a lot more twists to come in this, best of luck mate

It's been covered in some of the national rags, so I reckon most of the BB voters would know about it.

with the flip flop tuesday that now leaves an extra day for another flip flop, i predict(guess not wanting to be a big head) tonight

PAKEY     Joined: 10 Jun 02
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Hopefully Corin's girlfriend helped her get over the tragedy, boefore the caring Corin publicly dumped her on national tv by going for a couple of the housemates.
Her real life tragedy almost makes Stevo's real life tragedy pale into insignificance shrewd

Corin took the fact that the GF wasn't in the vid from home that she was the one in fact dumped therefore justifiably letting her free to do as she wishes. not quite as hard just feckin it off IMO.

Corin said she thought here girlfriend was not there because of her actions in the house. I think at that stage she was drooling over unibrow.

It is a negative for her chance, but I believe only a minor negative in comparison to the other main runners actual behaviour on the show, JJ1 Josie Sam etc...Sam's biggest negatives are that he's been very aggravational and is also barely doing a 25% stint on the show, the other two's negatives are well known now.

That didn't last long.

you will have to start a new thread thicket

3rd fav in a minute

At the time of this thread Josie was around 6, the orange atrocity was around 2.5

Hope that helps Lionrock. Get a brain sir.

Just stupid money chasing her down based on very little.
It seemed to me the market was just looking for a challenger to Corin.
It has that now in Pepper.

back to 6 and bigger for the heffalump

A few days ago Five Leaves you were telling us Corin should be long odds-on and that she would walk it. Now Pepper should be odds-on and Josie is still a no-hoper.

The level of ramping and book-talking on here this year is absolutely shameless. The reality is that this contest is wide open and people are seeing through Corin's contrived act. She's no Brian Belo in terms of entertainment either imo.

There's nothing cointrived about Corin and Pepper putting their all in to this task while JJJ moan.

Yep, I thought Corin had it in the bag last week, but since then we've had the charge from Pepper.
I believe one of those 2 will win and I'm happy to oppose Josie at the silly prices she's been backed to.

Keep backing her under 4 if you think she's a good bet.

I backed her at big prices before the crash thanks. I like to act before the market moves not after a price crash when the rampers are trying to lay off.

Must admit I thought she was hilarious during that feast last night. No idea what's going on now, even my mole isn't aware, I suspect top branch aren't either. Coirins lusting for JJ2 and duped lesbian relationship has stopped her being a shoe in with some poor edits. I suspect it's anyone's game going into the final week. I'd not want a red on any of them personally, Josie is a very poor result for me but I'm accepting it could easily be the case.

The production team will decide the winner with the edits and tasks, as I've said it's still wide open.

TTT ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

christ chompy, you're a bit of a sad f*cker ttt-ing all these threads

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