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7 October 2015 --first acceptances for the $6 million race were taken on Tuesday.
1. Protectionist allocated the top weight.
2. 15 overseas-trained horses were included in the first acceptances.
3. Japanese stayers Fame Game and Hokko Brave were the first international horses to arrive at the Werribee International Horse Centre and they both remain on track to contest the Group 1 Caulfield Cup (2400m) on October 17 and the Group 1 Melbourne Cup (3200m).
4. Red Cadeaux has finished second in the Melbourne Cup on three occasions and he is set to go around ‘in the race that stops a nation’ for the fifth year in a row, while he will be joined by stablemate Trip To Paris.
5. The Coolmore team of Aidan O’Brien-Order Of St George, Bondi Beach and Kingfisher
6. Other internationally-trained horses that have been included in the 2015 Melbourne Cup first acceptances are Big Orange, Elhaame, May Dynamite, Quest For More, Secret Number, Sky Hunter and Snow Sky
7. Chris Waller- Preferment and staying mare Let’s Make A deal
8. Other locals- Complacent, --Dandino,-- Hartnell, ---Hauraki,-- Mongolian Khan----, Our Ivanhowe, ---Prince Of Penzance, ---Protectionist, ---Rising Romance, ---Royal Descent, The United States ---and Who Shot Thebarman
Melbourne Cup market (7 October 2015)
$8 Fame Game
$9 Order Of St George
$12 Preferment
$14 Max Dynamite, Who Shot Thebarman
$16 Dandino
$18 Hokko Brave, Mongolian Khan, Our Ivanhowe, Trip To Paris
$21 Big Orange, Bondi Beach, Gust Of Wind, Hartnell, Hauraki, Kingfisher, Set Square, Snow Sky
1. Protectionist allocated the top weight.
2. 15 overseas-trained horses were included in the first acceptances.
3. Japanese stayers Fame Game and Hokko Brave were the first international horses to arrive at the Werribee International Horse Centre and they both remain on track to contest the Group 1 Caulfield Cup (2400m) on October 17 and the Group 1 Melbourne Cup (3200m).
4. Red Cadeaux has finished second in the Melbourne Cup on three occasions and he is set to go around ‘in the race that stops a nation’ for the fifth year in a row, while he will be joined by stablemate Trip To Paris.
5. The Coolmore team of Aidan O’Brien-Order Of St George, Bondi Beach and Kingfisher
6. Other internationally-trained horses that have been included in the 2015 Melbourne Cup first acceptances are Big Orange, Elhaame, May Dynamite, Quest For More, Secret Number, Sky Hunter and Snow Sky
7. Chris Waller- Preferment and staying mare Let’s Make A deal
8. Other locals- Complacent, --Dandino,-- Hartnell, ---Hauraki,-- Mongolian Khan----, Our Ivanhowe, ---Prince Of Penzance, ---Protectionist, ---Rising Romance, ---Royal Descent, The United States ---and Who Shot Thebarman
Melbourne Cup market (7 October 2015)
$8 Fame Game
$9 Order Of St George
$12 Preferment
$14 Max Dynamite, Who Shot Thebarman
$16 Dandino
$18 Hokko Brave, Mongolian Khan, Our Ivanhowe, Trip To Paris
$21 Big Orange, Bondi Beach, Gust Of Wind, Hartnell, Hauraki, Kingfisher, Set Square, Snow Sky
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Absolutely bucketing down in Melb and set to continue for a few days. Have paid no attention to the horses in a while, but everyone tells me The Offer is a star in the wet. Have taken the 65s, do I have a prayer?
Absolutely bucketing down in Melb and set to continue for a few days
cheers Rhino .. others will know better about The Offer than me ... but at the odds its money for jam either way
now Aiden O'Brien scratched and didn't bring one of his main Cup hopes
cause he read somewhere the tracks here would be too hard
luck 'o the irish I guess
maybe aiden's others are swimmers .. they should be used to it
cheers Rhino .. others will know better about The Offer than me ... but at the odds its money for jam either way
now Aiden O'Brien scratched and didn't bring one of his main Cup hopes
cause he read somewhere the tracks here would be too hard
luck 'o the irish I guess
maybe aiden's others are swimmers .. they should be used to it
Strong winds in melbourne 12.30 am sunday no rain expected until a drenching on wednesday. With the strong wind expect the track to be good...IMO
GOOD LUCK TO ALL PUNTERS
Probably put half the field in trifectors etc. But my live chances i think are the japanese.trip to paris,snow sky, criterion, bondi beach. If the rain comes early (40 mil expected) and arrives tuesday before the cup, all out on the mudlark criterion.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL PUNTERS
Probably put half the field in trifectors etc. But my live chances i think are the japanese.trip to paris,snow sky, criterion, bondi beach. If the rain comes early (40 mil expected) and arrives tuesday before the cup, all out on the mudlark criterion.
No rain sunday. Expecting 2 mil monday.. via weather channel
I'm in the heart of Flemington atm and its been bucketing down for last few hours
It is hard to get away from the thought that this is one heck of a great Cup field!!
Hi henry ,
Preferment is the standout for me .Cant see anything as good @ the weights which will play its part but course form swings it here and a likable horse.
Significantly Ryan Moore does not ride for his new stable which says alot about their runners but top weight not a likely winner of this.
GL.
Preferment is the standout for me .Cant see anything as good @ the weights which will play its part but course form swings it here and a likable horse.
Significantly Ryan Moore does not ride for his new stable which says alot about their runners but top weight not a likely winner of this.
GL.
Think Criterion will love the 3200m and look the winner at least at some part of the straight. Hoping the right part.
Preferment is the standout for me
TOWF,,,funny was form assessing this afternoon and noted impeccable form followed by the usual pre-cup smoky run in the Cox ....
What a training prep to the day.....3 Barrier trials in 30 days....21 Aug to 21 Sept...followed by its early in the prep win on the 4 Oct.....then of course smoky run at the Valley....only caveat is maybe the Turnball was not the strongest but what a strong win in any event...and from memory Cox and Mckinnon often the smoky runs....by Cup contenders....trying to recall previous Cox run Cup place getters...
While on the once upon a time talk many will recall that a reliable "system" was fast finishing place getters in the Caulfield Cup (Gala Supreme comes to mind)....which puts Paris into big contention....
Curiously trying to think outside the square ,,,Max Dynamite come to mind in a big way...actually a jumper but the Galway (2nd place) was great race and has all that experience in those big fielded jumps (up against 18-19 other runners) so should luv any pushing and shoving....only caveat is might be running a bit fresh....so might not settle....unless it has had some decent workouts (which one would expect)...
So at this moment my tip is MD
TOWF,,,funny was form assessing this afternoon and noted impeccable form followed by the usual pre-cup smoky run in the Cox ....
What a training prep to the day.....3 Barrier trials in 30 days....21 Aug to 21 Sept...followed by its early in the prep win on the 4 Oct.....then of course smoky run at the Valley....only caveat is maybe the Turnball was not the strongest but what a strong win in any event...and from memory Cox and Mckinnon often the smoky runs....by Cup contenders....trying to recall previous Cox run Cup place getters...
While on the once upon a time talk many will recall that a reliable "system" was fast finishing place getters in the Caulfield Cup (Gala Supreme comes to mind)....which puts Paris into big contention....
Curiously trying to think outside the square ,,,Max Dynamite come to mind in a big way...actually a jumper but the Galway (2nd place) was great race and has all that experience in those big fielded jumps (up against 18-19 other runners) so should luv any pushing and shoving....only caveat is might be running a bit fresh....so might not settle....unless it has had some decent workouts (which one would expect)...
So at this moment my tip is MD
Statistics
4 of past 5 winners - 6yo's
4 of past 5 winners - drawn Barrier 10 or wider
5 of past 5 winners carried less 56.5kg, (4 of past 5 winners 55kg or less)
5 of past 5 winners- lead up run of 2000m or further in Australia
4 of past 5 winners - 6yo's
4 of past 5 winners - drawn Barrier 10 or wider
5 of past 5 winners carried less 56.5kg, (4 of past 5 winners 55kg or less)
5 of past 5 winners- lead up run of 2000m or further in Australia
Have a BIG KNOCK on Fame Game and will be laying it accordingly..on preparation...the Cup is second up off a 5 MONTH spell
Cant help but think it is being prepared for a latter race somewhere (probably 3400m)
Off a 5 month spell it really does need one or even 2 more runs....any big effort asked of it for the Cup... runs the BIG risk of some type of damage
Currently lay odds $4.8 ....IMO a lay is money for jam .....
Cant help but think it is being prepared for a latter race somewhere (probably 3400m)
Off a 5 month spell it really does need one or even 2 more runs....any big effort asked of it for the Cup... runs the BIG risk of some type of damage
Currently lay odds $4.8 ....IMO a lay is money for jam .....
anyone with Foxtel who missed the recent 1½ hours ... of all of bart's 12 cups .. there were plenty of fascinating background stories behind each horses wins ... well its on again after midnight for recording .. if you missed it .. def worth a watch
Some pre day tips for tomorrow at Flemington...
Flemington
Race 1 4 - Concealer
Race 2 7 - Cathy's Mark
Race 3 12 - Four Carat
Race 4 2 - Burning Front
Race 5 4 - American Star
Race 6 4 - Andrioli
Race 7 2 - Criterion
Race 8 10 - The Bowler
Race 9 11 - The Monstar
Race 10 3 - Nayeli
Flemington
Race 1 4 - Concealer
Race 2 7 - Cathy's Mark
Race 3 12 - Four Carat
Race 4 2 - Burning Front
Race 5 4 - American Star
Race 6 4 - Andrioli
Race 7 2 - Criterion
Race 8 10 - The Bowler
Race 9 11 - The Monstar
Race 10 3 - Nayeli
Fame Game 3.5 in my market Henry, barring bad luck and a wet track it won't surprise if he wins with a leg in the air.
He's by far and away the best international horse to ever contest the cup.
Could easily have him shorter than that but was deliberately trying to be conservative, Almoonqith and Our Ivanhowe have a sense of timing about their prep and respect Criterion's class but he has to break every rule in the book to win, horses that win Black Opal's as a 2yo and run sixth in the Golden Slipper don;t win Melbourne Cups, ran 4th in The VRC derby as a spring 3yo and then won the AJC Derby again against his own age as a 3yo and hasn't been over 2400m or further since, has to be very big distance query and is poorly weighted given the distance query. Although the same queries were posed about saintly this horse isn't in the same breath as Saintly yet and also saintly raced against a far inferior quality field back then as the type of quality stayer contesting this event.
Max Dynamite impressive last start but on a slow 7 (probably heavy 9 or 10 here) and a disappointing second the start before on a dry track although was coming off a break that day runs up to his last run and he's a definite place chance.
Bondi Beach doesn't go past horses either, judging by his replays he looms up and then won't go past them so can't win for mine. The United States is impossible, Moreira is a freak but he can't carry them, same goes for snow sky he's impossible plenty of deadwood in this cup with virtually no winning hope.
Preferment if you put the cox out of your mind which you have to based upon the way the track played is the logical second pick and respect red cadeaux because he's done it year in year out and dunlop knows what he's on about. Fame game wins, good chances to preferment, Our Ivanhowe, almoonqith and Trip To Paris, Criterion a silly chance think Hokko Brave can run a race as well was ok at caulfield and will improve red cadeaux the best roughie and Barman a silly chance again likes flemington adn Caulfield effort was ok.
He's by far and away the best international horse to ever contest the cup.
Could easily have him shorter than that but was deliberately trying to be conservative, Almoonqith and Our Ivanhowe have a sense of timing about their prep and respect Criterion's class but he has to break every rule in the book to win, horses that win Black Opal's as a 2yo and run sixth in the Golden Slipper don;t win Melbourne Cups, ran 4th in The VRC derby as a spring 3yo and then won the AJC Derby again against his own age as a 3yo and hasn't been over 2400m or further since, has to be very big distance query and is poorly weighted given the distance query. Although the same queries were posed about saintly this horse isn't in the same breath as Saintly yet and also saintly raced against a far inferior quality field back then as the type of quality stayer contesting this event.
Max Dynamite impressive last start but on a slow 7 (probably heavy 9 or 10 here) and a disappointing second the start before on a dry track although was coming off a break that day runs up to his last run and he's a definite place chance.
Bondi Beach doesn't go past horses either, judging by his replays he looms up and then won't go past them so can't win for mine. The United States is impossible, Moreira is a freak but he can't carry them, same goes for snow sky he's impossible plenty of deadwood in this cup with virtually no winning hope.
Preferment if you put the cox out of your mind which you have to based upon the way the track played is the logical second pick and respect red cadeaux because he's done it year in year out and dunlop knows what he's on about. Fame game wins, good chances to preferment, Our Ivanhowe, almoonqith and Trip To Paris, Criterion a silly chance think Hokko Brave can run a race as well was ok at caulfield and will improve red cadeaux the best roughie and Barman a silly chance again likes flemington adn Caulfield effort was ok.
Preferment if you put the cox out of your mind which you have to based upon the way the track played is the logical second pick
Down 4.5 kgs on Cox weight and undefeated ( 2 from 2 ) at Flemington
Down 4.5 kgs on Cox weight and undefeated ( 2 from 2 ) at Flemington
lets.... terravista was fatter than two pigs first up, will need one more at least .... surprisingly no excalamations from jimmy about this 
..... would have been 32.69 percent fit i reckon.
Cant help myself........ heres all the sewerage from biased track ratings incorporated
10 6.4/1
3 7.3/1
15 7.9/1
12 15.0/1
23 16.2/1
..... would have been 32.69 percent fit i reckon.Cant help myself........ heres all the sewerage from biased track ratings incorporated
10 6.4/1
3 7.3/1
15 7.9/1
12 15.0/1
23 16.2/1
hmmm ... lol
I got 'em ... 6/1 the field ... in this order on a toss up over the rarely raced 3200m event .. (sorry to jinx you Very )
$7.00 15, 10, 3 (preferment, trip to paris, fame game) ...
and putting in #9 Red Cadeaux for some cup prizemoney again too (do they still pay out to 10th or something)
what a freak Red Cad ... hope he brings it again for one more cup race ... would be a great lifetime achievement if finishes in the first 4
The Melbourne Cup ... its a raffle, a lottery & a novelty race - but I love it
I got 'em ... 6/1 the field ... in this order on a toss up over the rarely raced 3200m event .. (sorry to jinx you Very
)$7.00 15, 10, 3 (preferment, trip to paris, fame game) ...
and putting in #9 Red Cadeaux for some cup prizemoney again too (do they still pay out to 10th or something)
what a freak Red Cad ... hope he brings it again for one more cup race ... would be a great lifetime achievement if finishes in the first 4
The Melbourne Cup ... its a raffle, a lottery & a novelty race - but I love it
Race 1 inconclusive .. the hard rail pozzie certainly didn't appear to have any 5 len advantage
and from the overhead there is a metre of lush green behind (inside of) the rail itself
so is the rail at exactly the same position ... as Saturday .. did anyone hear ?
and from the overhead there is a metre of lush green behind (inside of) the rail itself
so is the rail at exactly the same position ... as Saturday .. did anyone hear ?
mate terravista is basically gonski currently as aew many of Joe Prides horses suddenly, I wonder why???
Ill tell you what this track had better play relatively fair today otherwise this bloke should be lined up and shot!!!
Fancy aerating the centre of the track during cup week and trying to even up the rail prior to derby day total ****g moron, we were back to the old massive rail bias bias on derby day ala efficient's derby win, the bloke fixed the track and then and this bloke goodie is a complete and utter ****g clown. Gately and co aren't much better after that interview they said expect them to be getting off the fence during the day that was never going to happen after he artificially doctored the centre of the track.
Fancy aerating the centre of the track during cup week and trying to even up the rail prior to derby day total ****g moron, we were back to the old massive rail bias bias on derby day ala efficient's derby win, the bloke fixed the track and then and this bloke goodie is a complete and utter ****g clown. Gately and co aren't much better after that interview they said expect them to be getting off the fence during the day that was never going to happen after he artificially doctored the centre of the track.
TB , on the ball. 
It's Raffle Day!!!
Not sure how I got $180s
USA on Friday? but... played dejavu with my raffle choices.
USA and Almonquith started their preps catching my eye in the same race at The Valley a couple of months ago,
the sexy Criterion rarely goes around without me and The Offer was my hope last year.
Be more dejavuing , with me each way funning on Tashbee and Prompt Return ....that is all.
Gamble Responsibly
It's Raffle Day!!!
Not sure how I got $180s
USA on Friday? but... played dejavu with my raffle choices.USA and Almonquith started their preps catching my eye in the same race at The Valley a couple of months ago,
the sexy Criterion rarely goes around without me and The Offer was my hope last year.
Be more dejavuing , with me each way funning on Tashbee and Prompt Return ....that is all.
Gamble Responsibly
Zarzarli prob too short in the early market .. but they let her get out and out in the end on BF here
bossy said he'd ride her to chase em next time .. but she laid her ears back flat and was not gonna let one pass her late
was a watch race for me .. but this (and the next) campaign might be hers now after a learning 3yo career
bossy said he'd ride her to chase em next time .. but she laid her ears back flat and was not gonna let one pass her late
was a watch race for me .. but this (and the next) campaign might be hers now after a learning 3yo career
good of you to break away from cuddling all the nurses Joel
.. all the best today (and i think there IS a cup somewhere)
.. all the best today (and i think there IS a cup somewhere)
What's your Cup tips Joel? Melbourne Cup.
Perfect day for the cup. First beer didnt touch the sides of the throat. Track talk im hearing is who shot the barman.
Nov 3, 2015 -- 12:43AM, taimazov wrote:
BJT....... melbourne race 1
21.00 SP a good start to the day. The rest run for free. Luckily too, haven't gone close since. Four Carat very unlucky as didn't get a look in and was dragged back by a group of 4 in front of it. Hard to make a case he wins, but might as well have not even gone around.
careful of sarajevo in hte second last.... McDonald riding overs all day.
24--GUST OF WIND---im on 
--If drew abetter barrier would be selling a kidney to get extra funds--ps--Just in case your wondering how im going--Havent backed a winner since they invented the pyramids.
Good luck all..
--If drew abetter barrier would be selling a kidney to get extra funds--ps--Just in case your wondering how im going--Havent backed a winner since they invented the pyramids.Good luck all..
spyvspy27
01 Nov 15 08:47
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I'm in the heart of Flemington atm and its been bucketing down for last few hours
you must have had a cloud following you personally.. I was at a stables having a BBQ. overcast and a few minutes of light rain...Flemington had 3.9 ml for the 24 hours sunday
hope you have a great day cup day.
01 Nov 15 08:47
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I'm in the heart of Flemington atm and its been bucketing down for last few hours
you must have had a cloud following you personally.. I was at a stables having a BBQ. overcast and a few minutes of light rain...Flemington had 3.9 ml for the 24 hours sunday
hope you have a great day cup day.
Looks like have to be happy with $5.1 Fame Game lay....Was hoping all that Disney Land hype would bring it into $4.5....
Second up off a 5 month spell and 5.0 ish in the Melbourne Cup...
my head is falling off with laughter....
Second up off a 5 month spell and 5.0 ish in the Melbourne Cup...
my head is falling off with laughter....
Jockey intros a bit over the top.
A more disturbing looking group of individuals you'd struggle to find.
A more disturbing looking group of individuals you'd struggle to find.
good on her .. terrific gal
(where was aiden and his pacemakers though .. what a disappointment he is in oz)
(where was aiden and his pacemakers though .. what a disappointment he is in oz
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H's and BJT's form assessment lessons ... New subscribers welcome....discount to WA members....
Thought I d be jumping with largest lay...but as BJT suggested ...at $5.00 ish ... it was really a lay for dummies
OK H that's enough....
GL
Thought I d be jumping with largest lay...but as BJT suggested ...at $5.00 ish ... it was really a lay for dummies
OK H that's enough....
GL
WD Michelle ...WD ($300 000.00 ish pay cheque ...probably in shock...)
WD WD Michelle
WD WD Michelle
feel ill
--gust of wind very unlucky--got turned sidesways 3 times in the straight--Franky should get 3 months for his ride on max dynamite--filthy races
--gust of wind very unlucky--got turned sidesways 3 times in the straight--Franky should get 3 months for his ride on max dynamite--filthy races
pretty sure I saw them pull Red Cadeaux out of the race at the 200m back near last .. hope he pulls up fine .. bye ol champ you've earned a good paddock now
Why not..it is the Cup and selecting second at 16.00 ish
Henrys only tip
Max Dynamite come to mind in a big way...actually a jumper but the Galway (2nd place) was great race and has all that experience in those big fielded jumps (up against 18-19 other runners) so should luv any pushing and shoving....only caveat is might be running a bit fresh....so might not settle....unless it has had some decent workouts (which one would expect)...
So at this moment my tip is MD
Subscriptions filling fast..!!
Henrys only tip
Max Dynamite come to mind in a big way...actually a jumper but the Galway (2nd place) was great race and has all that experience in those big fielded jumps (up against 18-19 other runners) so should luv any pushing and shoving....only caveat is might be running a bit fresh....so might not settle....unless it has had some decent workouts (which one would expect)...
So at this moment my tip is MD
Subscriptions filling fast..!!
64,000% POT so far for the day for members. 500,000 dollars in exotics, on top 6 lines betting, covering 23 horses.
Of course it may not show up, but those members that have access to the sheet would have seen it on the 7th line and included it. Retiring as we speak.
grand marshall nearly came down into the straight .. jim escaped danger
preferment checked at the turn all over at that point it too far back
fame game three wide throughtout .. had cover .. taken 10 wide on the turn
trip to paris every chance from the pozzie
can't take it away from the winner .. michelle had to make quick choices after the jump .. and she did it so right
pretty amazing Cup .. not a classic .. but a great race ..
stewards with a bit of work to do but they generally have to this race
all in all a well done to connections ... 100/1 lol
preferment checked at the turn all over at that point it too far back
fame game three wide throughtout .. had cover .. taken 10 wide on the turn
trip to paris every chance from the pozzie
can't take it away from the winner .. michelle had to make quick choices after the jump .. and she did it so right
pretty amazing Cup .. not a classic .. but a great race ..
stewards with a bit of work to do but they generally have to this race
all in all a well done to connections ... 100/1 lol
cause that was what was quoted once ....SShhh ....quiet now Thebas is coming...
Megsy, I should've clarified, it was Flemington in Sydney ffs
amazing stuff, the link to Bart with Prince Of Penzance having almost exactly 10 K's in its' legs going into today's race. D Weir is a great trainer alright.... not just a combination of influences
SShhh ....quiet now Thebas is coming...
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henry .. sorry ...
well done on your Melb Cup lay ... you've reclaimed your skills today
good to see you bounce back (and humble) after a tough couple of picks in the Caulfield Cup & Cox Plate
your good subscriber's will stick ... and be glad to see your Melb Cup result
your best bet was the place divvie on Max .. well done
criterion what a magnificent looker he is .. had trouble seeing him at the distance pre race me though
and I couldn't have had the winner in 10 picks probably
but as always .. a great race
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henry .. sorry ...
well done on your Melb Cup lay ... you've reclaimed your skills today
good to see you bounce back (and humble
) after a tough couple of picks in the Caulfield Cup & Cox Plate your good subscriber's will stick ... and be glad to see your Melb Cup result
your best bet was the place divvie on Max .. well done
criterion what a magnificent looker he is .. had trouble seeing him at the distance pre race me though
and I couldn't have had the winner in 10 picks probably
but as always .. a great race
Thebas
Cox Plate was a shocking day for me.....think the following day went to casino to settle my nerves....but yes learnt a lot ...so much good from that days losses
Actually look at the form of the winner ....quite frankly it had a chance...might suggest it would have been close to your top 10..what distracts us often are horses prices...
PS recall Cox Plate day..way too cocky off the back of winning streak...left blood on the floor....poured from the eyes...
GL
Cox Plate was a shocking day for me.....think the following day went to casino to settle my nerves....but yes learnt a lot ...so much good from that days losses
Actually look at the form of the winner ....quite frankly it had a chance...might suggest it would have been close to your top 10..what distracts us often are horses prices...
PS recall Cox Plate day..way too cocky off the back of winning streak...left blood on the floor....poured from the eyes...
GL
Stupid part about it, is his hypertrophic patented fitness levels with tens of thousands of algorithms showed up:
100% Criterion/Fame Game
99% Our Ivanhoe/The Offer/Prince Of Penzance/Preferment
100% 3rd/13th
99% 10th/8th/1st/20th
Yet, he tipped you out of Prince Of Penzance because of class. Now where has class ever come into anything in his "tips"?
His tips:
Trip To Paris. Second favourite, 4th.
Preferment. 3rd favourite, 20th.
Fame Game. Favourite, 13th.
Any UK runner and Hoko Brave who he had at 97%, and the UK runners, as far as I can see, didn't rate their fitness at all. Yet tipped them all above his 100% and 99% ers......
Of course, these are what he showed up as their fitness after their last runs. Much easier to claim high fitness levels after a race, and then show yourself up next time.
If he didn't put his tips up, he could have easily claimed 1st and 3rd in the cup with 100 dollar winner and 6 dollar place out of 6 horses. But even he doesn't buy into his bullsiht.....
100% Criterion/Fame Game
99% Our Ivanhoe/The Offer/Prince Of Penzance/Preferment
100% 3rd/13th
99% 10th/8th/1st/20th
Yet, he tipped you out of Prince Of Penzance because of class. Now where has class ever come into anything in his "tips"?
His tips:
Trip To Paris. Second favourite, 4th.
Preferment. 3rd favourite, 20th.
Fame Game. Favourite, 13th.
Any UK runner and Hoko Brave who he had at 97%, and the UK runners, as far as I can see, didn't rate their fitness at all. Yet tipped them all above his 100% and 99% ers......
Of course, these are what he showed up as their fitness after their last runs. Much easier to claim high fitness levels after a race, and then show yourself up next time.
If he didn't put his tips up, he could have easily claimed 1st and 3rd in the cup with 100 dollar winner and 6 dollar place out of 6 horses. But even he doesn't buy into his bullsiht.....
VeryLTU, what did you think of Gust Of Wind at only her 10th race start?
henryluca
what distracts us often are horses prices...
... yes I agree ... you have to have a price going in ... and stick with your thoughts
the Melb Cup is a raffle, lottery & novelty though
I've never really looked at the Cup any differently
.. horses now shipping in from overseas with thier disjointed preps (inc Max)
but todays lottery came up with a terrific result for a great gal ... (and an interesting trainer)
the locals have reclaimed the Cup for one more year ... where was Aiden and his pacemakers
well done Oz
what distracts us often are horses prices...
... yes I agree ... you have to have a price going in ... and stick with your thoughts
the Melb Cup is a raffle, lottery & novelty though
I've never really looked at the Cup any differently
.. horses now shipping in from overseas with thier disjointed preps (inc Max)
but todays lottery came up with a terrific result for a great gal ... (and an interesting trainer)
the locals have reclaimed the Cup for one more year ... where was Aiden and his pacemakers
well done Oz
1st, 2nd and 3rd placegetters were :- 2 back, 3back and 4 back the fence, think the leader held on for 4th or 5th
the track is playing terrible again today
the track is playing terrible again today
it was a dawdle nugget .. they ran home last 200m in 22-something ... nothing a chance from the ruck today
that's the lottery
last time aiden had 3 he sent them all out on a cracker pace ... today no
it is 3200m and a guessing game .. that's what makes it fun
remember about 8 years ago Lee Freedman & others were all saying it was now a WFA race (or runner) run at hcp weights
well today .. the handicapper came back in to its own right
but next year .. will still be a lottery imo (regardless of whether a 5/1 fave or a 100/1 outsider wins it)
stops a nation though
that's the lottery
last time aiden had 3 he sent them all out on a cracker pace ... today no
it is 3200m and a guessing game .. that's what makes it fun
remember about 8 years ago Lee Freedman & others were all saying it was now a WFA race (or runner) run at hcp weights
well today .. the handicapper came back in to its own right
but next year .. will still be a lottery imo (regardless of whether a 5/1 fave or a 100/1 outsider wins it)
stops a nation though
yeah, they went really slow, even if they went faster I doubt things could of come wide and made much ground with how the track is playing
first time it's been a "lottery" in recent times imo
first time it's been a "lottery" in recent times imo
Frankie got a month--and 20k fine--I posted he should have got 3--I guess 20k equals 2 months
fair enough yes
always 24 runners though
protectionist ... dunaden .. americain .. green moon .... shocking
there were 23 others in all those races ...
doubt I've seen a non-lottery ... in that sense .. since Makybe Diva's last two
always 24 runners though
protectionist ... dunaden .. americain .. green moon .... shocking
there were 23 others in all those races ...
doubt I've seen a non-lottery ... in that sense .. since Makybe Diva's last two
cheers whiskers .. might be a few more later
and nugget yes .. the track
can't believe there were more than two jockeys that elected to try the outside rail in that very last straight race
and nugget yes .. the track
can't believe there were more than two jockeys that elected to try the outside rail in that very last straight race
Fiorente, Green Moon, Dunaden, Americain, Protectionist, Shocking, Viewed, Efficient, Delta Blues, Maybe Diva
Much easier than guessing the lotto numbers. The class horses have usually won in recent times
Much easier than guessing the lotto numbers. The class horses have usually won in recent times
It becomes a lottery when only 5 or 6 horses have a realistic chance due to the track
19 PRINCE OF PENZANCEB G 6 M PAYNE
5-9 M VY F 02Oct 2040 JRA CUP M Payne (4) 58.5 $8.5 Escado 1.9L 2-5.88
8-13 CAUL G 10Oct 2400 HERBERT POWER M Payne (12) 59 $10.0 Amralah (IRE) 7.7L 2-27.77
2-10 M VY G 24Oct 2500 MV CUP M Payne (4) 57 $6.0 The United St 0.5L 2-34.43
Good old fashion lead up runs--Herbert Power/MV Cup
5-9 M VY F 02Oct 2040 JRA CUP M Payne (4) 58.5 $8.5 Escado 1.9L 2-5.88
8-13 CAUL G 10Oct 2400 HERBERT POWER M Payne (12) 59 $10.0 Amralah (IRE) 7.7L 2-27.77
2-10 M VY G 24Oct 2500 MV CUP M Payne (4) 57 $6.0 The United St 0.5L 2-34.43
Good old fashion lead up runs--Herbert Power/MV Cup
Nov 3, 2015 -- 5:42AM, Thebas wrote:
cheers whiskers .. might be a few more later and nugget yes .. the track can't believe there were more than two jockeys that elected to try the outside rail in that very last straight race
Didn't The Monstar come 3rd at 11s running down the outside?
Criterion or Max Dynamite should of won the race with the box seats they had. Just not good enough, although Dettori did butcher Max Dynamite but that's not unusual.
Maybe the Stewards might have a look at infiltrating the Weir stables to get to the bottom of the big performance on cup day.
they can't do that nugget ..... there are going to be too many vacant boxes in the coming weeks and those leases may not be filled.
THought Gust of Wind was terrific judge !!... next year even better..... 6 year old wins it, that's 6 of the last ten cups for the 6yo
THought Gust of Wind was terrific judge !!... next year even better
..... 6 year old wins it, that's 6 of the last ten cups for the 6yo
Betting Activity:
BACK – WIN – FAME GAME – Despite only $4 it’s impossible to not have a winning result given his class.
BACK – WIN – OUR IVANHOWE – Have marked him 3rd favourite at $13
BACK – E/W – SKY HUNTER – Best International Roughie. Marked 4th favourite $15
LAY – E/W – MAX DYNAMITE – Have rated him double his current market price.
LAY – E/W – CRITERION – Looks weighted out of the race.
LAY – PLACE – THE UNITED STATES – Has inferior form and 3200m a query.
Good Luck Backing & Laying!
The Betfair Insider
Ouch. lol
BACK – WIN – FAME GAME – Despite only $4 it’s impossible to not have a winning result given his class.
BACK – WIN – OUR IVANHOWE – Have marked him 3rd favourite at $13
BACK – E/W – SKY HUNTER – Best International Roughie. Marked 4th favourite $15
LAY – E/W – MAX DYNAMITE – Have rated him double his current market price.
LAY – E/W – CRITERION – Looks weighted out of the race.
LAY – PLACE – THE UNITED STATES – Has inferior form and 3200m a query.
Good Luck Backing & Laying!
The Betfair Insider
Ouch. lol
BJT
Check our new subscriber base ..we cant start until all WA invitees have responded.....look under "Henry you can shove it up your arrrse just because you out called me with every step of Kermadec 's preparation" ;...or to words with that effect.
Check our new subscriber base ..we cant start until all WA invitees have responded.....look under "Henry you can shove it up your arrrse just because you out called me with every step of Kermadec 's preparation" ;...or to words with that effect.
Good Luck Backing & Laying!
The Betfair Insider
BJT...please send them a subscriber form to BJT/H subscriber base ...those paid to tip are often less likely to know how to read form properly...one reason of course being they dont go hungry if wrong ,,,Salmon swimming up stream comes to mind.....
Ahhh winners are grinners (certainly was not grinning Cox plate evening)
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BJT...please send them a subscriber form to BJT/H subscriber base ...those paid to tip are often less likely to know how to read form properly...one reason of course being they dont go hungry if wrong ,,,Salmon swimming up stream comes to mind.....
Ahhh winners are grinners (certainly was not grinning Cox plate evening)
WD henty with the lay as for me could see that in the fisst four so went with you .
Good call on the irish runner but to be true the track bias imho played its part.
The sccamble to te rail destroyed the event and one can apportion blame directly to the manager.
Not distracting from your good win henry .
Fair play An you called it.
Good call on the irish runner but to be true the track bias imho played its part.
The sccamble to te rail destroyed the event and one can apportion blame directly to the manager.
Not distracting from your good win henry .
Fair play An you called it.
Opps Henry .Look I am tierd as just got back .
Anyhow WD.
Anyhow WD.
Omens are a funny thing:
https://www.punters.com.au/news/Payne-and-the-Prince-already-Melbourne-Cup-winners_140844/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
https://www.punters.com.au/news/Payne-and-the-Prince-already-Melbourne-Cup-winners_140844/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
haha they'll be getting their frilly knickers wet today
The Race That Stops The Nation???? ......I recon most people outside Melbourne apart from the enthusiasts wouldn't even know it's on.
......I recon most people outside Melbourne apart from the enthusiasts wouldn't even know it's on.
it's wonderful when you get a ... dim wit ... blindly stagger into a Forum ..
brightens up the morning and gives you something to do waiting for the next race to run
and sometimes ... the dim wit ... might be from lands far away .. lands where their local trainers have sent horses from
but ... dim wits are rarely dim wits by design ... sometimes they don't even know they are dim wits
so reality can be shown to them ... to lessen the blankness of their ... dim wit'dness
http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/australia/melbourne-cup-day
Local races are held throughout the country on this day and when the main race of the day occurs at the Flemington Racecourse it is televised on screens at race tracks across Australia.
The race is televised live to an audience of about 650 million people worldwide.
now just in case the ... dim wit .. cannot add numbers .. that's about the equivalent of 10 times the entire population of the UK
brightens up the morning and gives you something to do waiting for the next race to run
and sometimes ... the dim wit ... might be from lands far away .. lands where their local trainers have sent horses from
but ... dim wits are rarely dim wits by design ... sometimes they don't even know they are dim wits
so reality can be shown to them ... to lessen the blankness of their ... dim wit'dness
http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/australia/melbourne-cup-day
Local races are held throughout the country on this day and when the main race of the day occurs at the Flemington Racecourse it is televised on screens at race tracks across Australia.
The race is televised live to an audience of about 650 million people worldwide.
now just in case the ... dim wit .. cannot add numbers .. that's about the equivalent of 10 times the entire population of the UK
Don't tell me i missed the Melbourne cup...........when was that on?.....
.....when was that on?.....
and just when you thought the day might get boring
now we have ... Dumb & even Dumber .. from over there
now we have ... Dumb & even Dumber .. from over there
Thebas, you have to admit that JR's post was funny ffs
of course topper's was funny ... I responded in kind ...
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and just when you thought the day might get boring
now we have ... Dumb & even Dumber .. from over there
and just when you thought the day might get boring
now we have ... Dumb & even Dumber .. from over there
I was there when Vintage Crop Won,the crowd was a just over 40 thousand,the place was half empty ffs.
and yet see what happens ... when YOU don't turn up Acey ...
2014 - 100,794[67]
2013 - 104,169[67]
2012 - 106,162[67]
2011 - 105,979 [68]
2010 – 110,223
2009 – 102,000
2008 – 107,000[69]
2007 – 102,411[70]
2006 – 106,691
2005 – 106,479
2004 – 98,181
2003 – 122,736 (record)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Cup#Attendance
ahhh .. maybe wear some deodorant next time .. gets a bit warmer in Oz poor than Ol' Blighty
now ... none of the great unwashed will understand my words of course .. so hope this helps
deodorant
/dɪˈəʊd(ə)r(ə)nt/
noun
a substance which removes or conceals unpleasant smells, especially bodily odours.
2014 - 100,794[67]
2013 - 104,169[67]
2012 - 106,162[67]
2011 - 105,979 [68]
2010 – 110,223
2009 – 102,000
2008 – 107,000[69]
2007 – 102,411[70]
2006 – 106,691
2005 – 106,479
2004 – 98,181
2003 – 122,736 (record)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Cup#Attendance
ahhh .. maybe wear some deodorant next time .. gets a bit warmer in Oz poor than Ol' Blighty
now ... none of the great unwashed will understand my words of course .. so hope this helps
deodorant
/dɪˈəʊd(ə)r(ə)nt/
noun
a substance which removes or conceals unpleasant smells, especially bodily odours.
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