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25 Jan 15
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I can't think of a harness race run this century that will rival this weeks Victoria Cup.
It is now the premier harness race in the Southern Hemisphere, and it gets an iconic race this year.
Christen Me, Beautide, Guaranteed, Philadelphia Man, Adore Me, Terror To Live all come together.
And that's before you even mention Lennytheshark, Restrepo, Franco Ledger, Suave Stuey Lombo, For A Reason.
Just an unbelievable race.
For me, I don't bet pre barrier draw, too many unknowns in the mix. But if you were, I think you would have to back the 3 Kiwis.
Christen Me is the best horse. Before a draw he should never be a 7/2 pop, in any race any where.
Terror To Love is simply a complete beast at his best, if you trust his Cranbourne win 7/1 is very juicy.
And do we not realise how good the mare is? Adore Me beat them all in the NZ Cup and hasn't put a hoof wrong since. Again 7/1 is a good price.
I don't see how you can back Beautide at 4/1 with no recent runs after Christen Me had his measure in the Miracle Mile, and Guaranteed and Philadelphia Man still have not fully answered the question yet. Both can definitely win, but I'm not taking 4 and 5 to 1 to find out .
Lennytheshark raced like more of a stayer last night, surprisingly. Has always had a great cruising speed. He would want to drift but could create interest of he does.
We should all enjoy this. It could literally be the race of an era
It is now the premier harness race in the Southern Hemisphere, and it gets an iconic race this year.
Christen Me, Beautide, Guaranteed, Philadelphia Man, Adore Me, Terror To Live all come together.
And that's before you even mention Lennytheshark, Restrepo, Franco Ledger, Suave Stuey Lombo, For A Reason.
Just an unbelievable race.
For me, I don't bet pre barrier draw, too many unknowns in the mix. But if you were, I think you would have to back the 3 Kiwis.
Christen Me is the best horse. Before a draw he should never be a 7/2 pop, in any race any where.
Terror To Love is simply a complete beast at his best, if you trust his Cranbourne win 7/1 is very juicy.
And do we not realise how good the mare is? Adore Me beat them all in the NZ Cup and hasn't put a hoof wrong since. Again 7/1 is a good price.
I don't see how you can back Beautide at 4/1 with no recent runs after Christen Me had his measure in the Miracle Mile, and Guaranteed and Philadelphia Man still have not fully answered the question yet. Both can definitely win, but I'm not taking 4 and 5 to 1 to find out .
Lennytheshark raced like more of a stayer last night, surprisingly. Has always had a great cruising speed. He would want to drift but could create interest of he does.
We should all enjoy this. It could literally be the race of an era
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be even better if it was run at GP imo
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None of the big guns would go if history tells us anything
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Yes a great GRAND CIRCUIT race:-----$400,000 plus trophy
Names also nominated include :DAVID HERCULES SEEL N PRINT THE GOLD ACE Same day.-----Heats of Victorian Derby and Australasian Trotters Championships Looking forward to the final field |
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Ironically :
Perhaps the "Best Race" in the century ....without the "best horses of the same period!! None however can do this from the death and leave dirt in the mouths of some big names behind him.... "OHHHHH what a RUN!!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisxK6Z0el8 |
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This race will be Won at the Barrior Draw.
Dont Underestamate Restrepo. If he had same run as Franco Ledger last night he would of done same. Cant wait, wont be there but ill be at Hunter Cup and give my Summary for every race |
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Some perspective Henry. There is absolutely no possible way the runner up in that race would even get a start this year
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Aussie the Runner up was not a bad horse started Fav in a Hunter Cup one year.
Steamer ran at trails today left his run to short for Vic Cup but watch for him in Hunter and Inter. Hopefully a good open race for him next week. Jus hope they get him right. They could have the best 2yr old in the country as well Jillaby Jitterbug |
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If he (Restrepo.) had same run as Franco Ledger last night he would of done same.
Agreed .....and others too..... Watched the race but couldn't hear the sectionals as they were being peeled off.....more brutal than first thought......touch of arrogance in the drive imo |
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Still have no idea what junior was doing that night on quinny not much doubt he should have won.
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I see your Mr Feelgood and raise you with Elsu one of the all time greats of Australasian harness racing and arguably one of the best performances on a harness track I've ever seen his stunning Hunter Cup win. Its certainly in my top 5 performances in history as he made an outstanding field look like hacks after sitting three wide without cover for the last 1400m with Young Rufus in front, The Falcon Strike in the breeze The Warp Drive on the leaders back, Howard Bromac three back the fence and Flashing Red sitting one one and has the audacity to streak away from them in the straight.
Simply extraordinary!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76J9feYV3Qc |
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Lets:
Outstanding Win---perfect drive by Butcher in the circumstances....3 wide (had to be there) and 3rd gear To get some measurement last quarter was 29.5 as called , unfortunately no third quarter not called... Aesthetically outstanding !!! Thank you Lets for recalling it to me Curiously ..does Elsu hold any course records..(NZ or elsewhere..  )PS. Young Rufus in front, The Falcon Strike in the breeze The Warp Drive on the leaders back, Howard Bromac three back the fence and Flashing Red sitting one one That part of the call made the neck hairs stand up |
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One of the greatest things that can happen in these big races is to get a MIX of talents amongst the starters.
I think that Franco Ledger is not actually in he top bracket, but he is blessed with a similar late ping that got Seel N Print into some big races last year - he can knock em over once in a while if he gets the right trip. Love the recaps of past greats - but don't much like to compare them to present day. Pre-post betting is a terrible rort ... the percentages are horrendously against you - but even I fall for it sometimes. Most runners start better prices on the day !!! Great to see the interest all round. |
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Pre-post betting is a terrible rort
For a Reason 2.0 into 1.50 Bathurst Philly Man ...2.00 into 1.85 Shepparton Cup Not always...For some back bettors it can be a great way to get overs (not for me I might add) Love the recaps of past greats..  Great weekend coming up.....hope there will be lot of interest |
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Trotman:
Well called Funny you mention Franco Ledger ... driven too hard, too soon last start. He could be the much better suited from the tapes, and in a close up smother ??? |
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Beautide the big winner at the barrier draw
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Race 7 TAB VICTORIA CUP (GROUP 1) 9:32 PM
1 111s3 LENNYTHESHARK 2 89151 FRANCO LEDGER NZ 3 4112s BEAUTIDE 4 11112 PHILADELPHIA MAN 5 61264 IM CORZIN TERROR NZ 6 51121 CHRISTEN ME NZ 7 44412 TERROR TO LOVE NZ ---------- Second Row ---------- 8 020s3 CHILLI PALMER NZ (Em 1) 9 s1112 DAVID HERCULES 10 11231 GUARANTEED 11 35177 FOR A REASON 12 12111 ADORE ME NZ 13 s4421 RESTREPO |
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All I'm saying Henry is I took $14 Ledger early in the week, enjoyed seeing it chopped back to $10 best on Friday.
But of course I could have got better on the night ;-) TAB has 128% on the board - and all you hear is this is backed, and that is backed - drives me nuts. Sorry to rant on you guys ... I'm sure you know. Good race to watch, I don't have a good record in this one. Great night's racing - in fact sensational !!! |
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Barrier Draw Interesting.
HAs Beutide Got enough Speed to Hold Out Phily Man? Will Christian Me try get to Death Early and give Phily Man the Death. Lenny Holds the Aces in 1 but could be that Run or 2 Short. Even at 50s Restrepo is the Blowout Horse. Have Something on him at those Odds as there maybe Fireworks. Will be a Great Race Buetide to Short Should be $5 and probably will be on the night. Who will Gav driver? Im tipping he stays on Guaranteed |
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An interesting betting market would be front row v. back row...
Many would have front row would be favourite : Does 1.5/3.5 (dividends -not odds) sound right or perhaps even 1.3 / 4.0 Strangely I am looking forward to putting up a tattsbet +++ market on that morning ....for any takers.....(if I get more than one I can post the weight of early financial interest) Well said Trotman: Great night's racing - in fact sensational !!! |
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Henry - don't go offering anyone 1.5 AND 3.5 ;-)
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I've been sitting here trying to map this Vic Cup all night, I have decided there is no scenario that be relied on.
Breeze horse could be any of Philadelphia Man/Christen Me/Terror To Love. Some chance Phil Man could boot up and hold the breeze and cause a very hot speed? |
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Henry - don't go offering anyone 1.5 AND 3.5 ;-)
--Trotman ---Well spotted 1.5/2.5 |
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35 minutes to the great race
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No doubt who the best is now ...... CHRISTEN ME
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And Adore Me, unbelievable run. Clearly the best two runs in the race
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Unfortunately its not run on the best track this century. Melton is terribly biased towards inside runners and unless there are a few kamikazes there ain't many hopes out the back after they settle
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g hall jnr "Take nothing away from Christen Me but what anti climax! Terrible race and if it's not made 2500m+ it'll stay that way! Wake up HRV!"
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Hall is just dirty that Christen Me is now clearly the best since Blackie
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Take nothing away from Christen Me but what anti climax!
Did remind me of the Village Kid Interdom Albion Park 1986....drew the 6 and bang off the mobile and was all over in a matter of seconds Nevertheless a great win |
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He's confused why nobody used a few stable mates to attack christen me and then be beaten 70m
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lenny went well - better than i thought it would
i know u try to get a bite with some of your comments aussie but i will stay out |
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lol Uncleee
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Village Kid possibly the most boring champion of all time. No doubting his ability. Just a period of yawnfest. Not his fault. Just no one prepared to have a go.
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Correct Uncleee
That was not an attempt for a bite Craig. CM is the best since Blackie now, he's not done yet either |
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26 second last 1/4
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That's twice in a row now he has gone a 54 half after leading.
Horse is a freak, might end up better than Blackie when he's done, still got 2 years at the top and already has a regime that includes: Hunter Cup Vic Cup Miracle Mile Chariots of Fire NZ FFA No bite required Craig, he is the best since Blackie |
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resume
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fair point
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