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Got matched, hopefully it was our local LNPers
poll out tonight 52 - 48 to the bad guys BUT that's with 2012 preferences. In that election only 40% of Green preferences went to Labor, it'll be more than that this time. I still think I'll lose my $20 but I'll get a run for my money ![]() |
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couldn't resist - dipped back in and took the $8 that was left there last night as well
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Remember QLD - if Labor win, Bikies will be allowed to enter your home & tattoo your children & THERE WON'T BE A THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
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![]() ....... dead set teddy have u ever done stand up ..... er comedy i mean. |
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Bikies will be allowed to enter your home & tattoo your children & THERE WON'T BE A THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
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14 per cent swing in first booth from Cook
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VLTU - does Centrelink know you have 1K to splash around?
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boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
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Maybe if the bikies were locked up for possessing semi automatic weapons, instead of creating a false law to restrict everybody's freedoms, they wouldn't be an issue.........
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So the big question is who will be chosen for the speaker - the Hells Angels or the Rebels
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so far..its been an ok night for the true believers of qld imvho
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And according to Brandis and Kroger , it's all Alan Jones' fault. What drugs am I on
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GO AJ!!
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So Newman is saying his political career is over..
How many days til he officially jumps on board with a multinational minerals industry parasite! ![]() ![]() |
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So what's happening? For those of us that aren't following the election results.
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not much..but its all Labor's fault..
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How's that cntt Campbell doing? I love how he tries to sneak in an election while AJ is on holidays. And then sues him. Freedom of speech Queensland style.
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Happy days are here again
![]() ![]() ![]() Still some counting to be done but it's either Labor in their own right or Labor leading a minority government - well done Queensland, a great result that should change the way politics works forever. There are a hell of a lot less safe seats now and that's a good thing oh and Boom ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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couldn't resist - dipped back in and took the $8 that was left there last night as well
C'mon Labor Cool Very WD Wombleoz |
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Incredible turnaround from 9 seats to 45 or 46 seats for a Labor victory. This is a massive protest vote against Abbotts arrogant scare mongoring Liberals. Furniture trucks are circling Canberra Liberal MP offices waiting like hungry vultures.
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One of the unique characteristics and basic tenets of a democracy is that its citizens get to vote – both figuratively and literally - and that each citizen is able to live the life of their choosing - to be able to say and do what they want.
We are a democracy. A democracy is a form of government that is "of, by, and for" the people. Of the People means the government is comprised of regular citizens; by the people means the government is elected by its citizens; and for the people means that the sole purpose of government is to act in ways that benefit us. The democratic process is the way we make that happen. We make the "of the people" part happen by running for public office; we make the "by the people" part happen by doing the things needed to elect our best to public office; and we make the "for the people" part happen by doing those things that keep us educated on important issues, that keep elected officials aware of our points of view, and that enforce our laws. The democratic process is not a methodology, but a way of living that keeps our country strong. When we invest time, energy and money in something, we tend to care more about that something. So actions that keep us involved in the democratic process help us care about and appreciate our democracy and freedoms. They are the actions most closely associated with citizenship. Well done ...Annastacia Palaszczuk... |
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well done Henry
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Wasn't there a big swing to get him into power in the first place? People weren't happy, so they swapped, now they aren't happy so they swap back, and think everything is going to be rosey?
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People are never happy unless they are unhappy but history shows they are a lot less unhappy under a Labor Government.
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Given Labor's track record, wonder how long it will be till they replace Annastacia?
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Surely they can't? I mean people voted for her. Surely that vote isn't really meaningless and they can put in whoever they like?
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did they vote for her or against Newman..anyway when the LNP committed to job cuts in qld,I had no idea they meant their own
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I think she's earned a decent crack at the job, see how she goes though - they should never be sacred to replace a leader if the can't handle the job - don't want to end up laughing stock like Abbott
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Politicians of all persuasions seemed to get in and start changing laws in some type of landmark way.....
Not sure if there are that many things "broken" that require fixing... Rather than making existing laws work they want to leave their mark in history when perhaps it really isn't needed except for the sake of their ego ..... It seems that these laws are created not so much "for the people" but for the arrogance and egos of the pollies Just a thought |
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Well, John Howard's mark should see him get a life sentence multiplied by about 10,000 for the atrocities he committed. Wouldn't be forgotten for a long time.....
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Well, John Howard's mark should see him get a life sentence multiplied by about 10,000 for the atrocities he committed. Wouldn't be forgotten for a long time....
Sounds a bit harsh ! ![]() Was second longest serving PM behind Menzies. ( I guess bad stuff usually remembered longer than good stuff) Privatisation of Telstra--- iffy Industrial relations reform---definitely needed Tax reform (A broad-based consumption tax) -----perhaps technical reasons but I's say iffy International relations and national security---responsive to world events so probably necessary Just naive opinion ![]() |
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International relations?
The guy was in charge of committing troops involved in the slaughter of thousands of innocent people, combined with ally forces by some resources suggesting over a MILLION people dead with his hands firmly on the trigger, because of mass deception and bullsiht lies about weapons of mass destruction. Playing a part in the killing of up to a million people, and you think it is a bit harsh? Not to mention the countless rapes of women and children and torture of thousands, at his hands. Are you for real? Is a bit harsh? ffs |
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My memory is that IRAQ was seen by the ally nations as a threat to world peace ..right or wrong that was the opinion....I might have thought that the commitment of our troops etc etc was also with the intention of the protection of Australia and other western world countries....
Not sure where your statistic of thousands of innocent people comes from.but yes I recall there were innocent people in the cross fire etc...terrible.... Dont know where your statistic of " killing of up to a million people" comes from .... Dont know where your statistic of " countless rapes of women and children and torture of thousands, at his hands" comes from...... But yes every war is terrible beyond words.... There was at the time a perception of a threat to world peace involving weapons of mass destruction ( chemical and biological ) which perhaps to decision makers at government level saw zero room for error and I also recall Saddam was given every chance to comply with various requests. In those circumstances your comments were very much harsh. Your reply however is full of passion so it is respected..... Comments and reply above is just to give some balance to your personal comments. |
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Statistics are there for all to see. Just have a look. Soldiers returning confessing to rape, torture, illegal invasion of thousands upon thousands of homes, carrying dumbie weapons to plant to validate attacks, reporting how they drove over families in the street in their 20 ton plus vehicles because they couldn't be bothered stopping. Years, and years this has been going on. And that is before the "collateral damage" of the bombs, missiles, etc etc etc etc etc etc.
And yes, your memory would be that the ally nations suggested they were a threat to "world peace". By the way, when the fcuk has there been world peace? Seriously. But either way, this "opinion" was based on the "facts" that they had weapons of mass destruction ready to fire upon western civilisation. But these "facts" they portrayed to you to give you your memory, was all based on absolute bullsiht. The ‘facts’ – and they are comprehensive with links provided to the ‘evidence’ – continue for over a dozen pages and conclude with: As a result of the 20 March 2003 invasion of Iraq, there have been at least 105,439 – 115,149 civilians killed, and the Wikileaks war logs suggest a further 13,750, according to Iraq Body Count. And that doesn't include what has happened since, after our troops were committed. Here is a question for you henry. Did the UN back John Howard's invasion of Iraq, where hundreds of thousands of people died at the hands of Howard and Bush? There was never a perception of a threat to world peace for a couple of reasons. World peace is a fcuking myth. And we only invaded Iraq because of oil. Seriously, do you think a war that cost TRILLIONS of dollars, was based on some ill funded research? They "knew" there was WMDs and they "knew" where they were. And what were they? Fcuking trucks used to make hydrogen to fill WEATHER BALLOONS. Hundreds of thousands of people died, because Iraq was monitoring the fcuking weather. A bit harsh? The discovery by U.S. forces in Iraq of two mobile 'biological weapons laboratories' was touted by President Bush as clear evidence that Iraq possessed illegal weapons capabilities. However, it now is clear that these so-called labs were nothing more than hydrogen generation units based upon British technology acquired by Iraq in the 1980s, used to fill weather balloons in support of conventional artillery operations, and have absolutely no application for the production of biological agents. ” — Scott Ritter, a former United Nations weapons inspector, wrote in the San Francisco Chronicle on September 8, 2003 Dick Cheney continued to claim trailers were mobile labs September 14, 2003 "Same on biological weapons--we believe he'd developed the capacity to go mobile with his BW production capability because, again, in reaction to what we had done to him in '91. We had intelligence reporting before the war that there were at least seven of these mobile labs that he had gone out and acquired. We've, since the war, found two of them. They're in our possession today, mobile biological facilities that can be used to produce anthrax or smallpox or whatever else you wanted to use during the course of developing the capacity for an attack." Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC. January 22, 2004 "In terms of the question what is there now, we know for example that prior to our going in that he had spent time and effort acquiring mobile biological weapons labs, and we're quite confident he did, in fact, have such a program. We've found a couple of semi trailers at this point which we believe were, in fact, part of that program." Dick Cheney, Morning Edition, NPR. “ I looked at the four [sources] that [the CIA] gave me for [the mobile bio-labs], and they stood behind them, ... Now it appears not to be the case that it was that solid. At the time I was preparing the presentation, it was presented to me as being solid.[21] April 3, 2004 I feel terrible ... [giving the speech] ... It's a blot. I'm the one who presented it on behalf of the United States to the world, and [it] will always be a part of my record. It was painful. It's painful now.[4]" 2005 ” — Colin L Powell Everybody found these trucks. Everybody inspected them. The only people that found that their wish to monitor the weather required us to invade them and slaughter their population, was US, UK, and "US"........ A bit harsh? ffs. Hope everybody voted. Make a difference people. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Howard needs to go to jail. In fact, he should really suffer the same result he contributed to Saddam.
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BJT
As a result of the 20 March 2003 invasion of Iraq, there have been at least 105,439 – 115,149 civilians killed, and the Wikileaks war logs suggest a further 13,750, according to Iraq Body Count Your great conclusion is from a source known as THE AIM NETWORK: http://theaimn.com/complaint-john-howard-international-criminal-court/ They describe themselves as "The AIMN is a platform for citizen journalists and bloggers to write and engage in an independent media environment." And refers to a complaint : On 16 March 2012 the Search Foundation sent complaint to Commissioner Tony Negus APM, the head of the Australian Federal Police. The complaint is substantially the same as the one which would be sent to the Court. As far as the domestic jurisdiction is concerned, the complaint was based on Mr Howard’s violation of Division 268 of the Australian Criminal Code Act 1995. That Division ‘received’ the substance of Article 6: Genocide; Article 7: Crimes against humanity, and Article 8: War crimes, as contained in the Statute of Rome. The complaint was politely dealt with . . . . The CDPP has considered the material you have provided and will not initiate a prosecution of Mr Howard based on this material. The material is not a brief of evidence, containing admissible evidence against Mr Howard. I also note that the allegations set out in your letter do not appear to fall within the terms of any offence contained in Division 268 of the Criminal Code. And yes the providers of this platform for citizen journalists ans bloggers seek donations: http://theaimn.com/donate/ Best to leave it at that ![]() ![]() |
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lol you guys a protest vote, all that happened is people didn't take to newman and restored the normal 2pp balance , I don't know the figures at the moment but have to say if not far off centre of 50/50 ....a protest vote was the last election 76 seats to 7.....
Annastacia didn't win newman lost , its quite simple The people will see the Labor incompetency return to Qld as in the Bligh Beattie years and become more broke. Kate Jones ffs a pretty face who was part of the hopeless lot from before. I went back to my electorate and thought about it all and blah blah blah just lived off the hubbys $400K gov job bligh gave him....tough times Surely she cant re hire a gut load of Public Servants as did the previous Labor admin to help blow out the deficit Its sad the southerners and westerners are cheering when the state means nothing to them except the unions having their way again Cant see things improving here economically for the state and come unpopular decisions will be made and the next election will likely swap over again As for the Feds TA must make way as no one listens to him and Joe......some real time decisions on all matter of things like CGT & Super , tax breaks for the rich need to be urgently addressed Unfortunately Malclom supports an ETS which as we all know does NOTHING for the environment most especially as China and India have free rein to burn all they like..... Julie is the right person for the job however the blues promoting a woman to the top job seems a bit too far And what a joke Bill Shorten on TV after the election then talks about leadership speculation and if TA being replaced need an election LOLOLOL Bill you have a short memory YOU DID IT TWICE |
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Good to see you're still kicking Secong - it wasn't a protest vote, it was a rejection on a leader and an ideology. From the outside the biggest issue was clearly privatisation of public assets along with the traditional state issues of health, education and jobs.
Labor will learn from their last defeat - well they had better do or they'll be out on their ear in 3 years time. BJ - we elect parties, not leaders - the parties elect the leaders Federal will be on the other thread ![]() |