Martin P

Kris Kringle?

The Daily Telegraph:

IS takes 13 hostages in city cafe siege:

DEATH CULT CBD ATTACK.



Real terrorists are out in force today, nothing surer.

Bill Shorten is praying to God, so all will be ok.  His god is stronger apparantly.  Fcuking morons.

NSW Police Commissioner, Andrew Scipione, says contact has not yet been made with the armed offender holding people hostage at a cafe in Sydney's CBD.

It's believed up to a dozen people could be being held at the Lindt Chocolat cafe in Martin Place, but NSW police say they still don't know how many people are being held inside.

"We can confirm that there is an armed offender holding an unknown number of people hostage," Mr Scipione said.

"We are working as hard as we can to determine the exact number (of hostages).

"We are continuing to secure and make sure we are doing all we can to bring this to a peaceful outcome."

Police have moved to a "footing" similar to dealing with a terrorist attack, he said.

"We have not yet confirmed if this is a terrorism-related event," Mr Scipione said.

"We are dealing with a hostage situation with an armed offender."

Mr Scipione said there wasn't a connection between the siege and a counter-terror raid in Sydney, earlier this morning.

Extreme measure of protesting against expensive chocolate prices

Sky News reporting he wants an ISIL flag in exchange for a hostage and a conversation with Abbott.

You can't give him a fkn ISIL flag. And please put Bishop on the phone and not Tony. Hostages escaped, were not freed.

Just put a Tony impersonator on the line.....it's not like the criminal mastermind who forgot to take his own flag would notice the difference

Get an All Blacks flag, have a few sea gulls sh1t on it. Problem solved.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/city/pm-impersonator-oliver-dickson-turns-head-as-tony-abbott-lookalike/story-fni9r0jy-1227085021736

And there you go. Nothing to do with religion. The guy was pissed that his appeal against 300 community hours was denied on friday.

If only our politicians were as calm and measured as the Police.
Great job by the NSW Police. How many of us would walk into gunfire?

Until his entry into the global media spotlight as the shadowy figure at the centre of the Sydney siege, Man Haron Monis had long been viewed as a fringe figure in Sydney’s Islamic community, his self-radicalisation rooted in grievances against the Australian government and increasing marginalisation among his peers.

The self-proclaimed spiritual healer had achieved a degree of notoriety as the author of “grossly offensive” letters sent to taunt parents and relatives of Australians killed by extremism in Indonesia as well as troops who lost their lives in Afghanistan between 2007 and 2009.

Well known to the Australian police, he had been consumed by his conviction for the offence, unsuccessfully challenging the conviction in the high court last year and making several vehement and erratic public statements claiming to be innocent.

Monis lost another bid to have the matter heard before the high court on Friday.

He also faced numerous charges relating to his time working as a “spiritual healer” – including 22 counts of aggravated sexual assault and 14 counts of aggravated indecent assault – and had been bailed for allegedly being an accessory to the killing of his former wife.

When Monis, who was also known as Mohammad Hassan Manteghi, appeared in court in October over the sex assault allegations, police charged him with 40 additional offences. It was alleged that he had advised a 27-year-old woman to visit him at his business in Wentworthville in 2002 after she contacted him through a “Spiritual Consultation” ad in a community newspaper.

He was charged last year with being an accessory to the murder of his 30-year-old former wife Noleen Hayson Pal, a mother-of-two who was allegedly stabbed to death and set alight in April 2013.

Iranian-born, Monis sought asylum in Australia in 1996, telling ABC News in 2001 he fled after falling foul of the Iranian regime, which he said had placed his wife and children under house arrest. “I can say they are hostage,” he said at the time, having reportedly given himself the title Sheikh Haron.


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As recently as last week on a website he used both to defend and promote himself, he announced that he had converted from Shia to Sunni Islam and pledged his allegiance to the caliphate declared by the militant group Islamic State. That website was shut down as Monday’s siege developed, and police asked media outlets to refrain from giving him a platform as he held 17 hostages in the Lindt cafe in Martin Place.

Sydney Shia leaders had apparently urged federal police to probe his claim to be a leading cleric, while he was ignored by the Sunni community. He had no links to the Islamic State terrorist group, and despite his criminal past was not seen as a likely exponent of the group’s ideology.

One upshot, some would argue, is that he fits bill of a classic lone wolf – a profile that had been much feared by security officials. Monis is believed to have been a self-starter, who had attached himself to the virulent worldview of Isis. His self-radicalisation appeared to be rooted in grievances against the government and fueled by his increasing marginalisation.

Earlier this month, Monis had posted on his website that Shia muslims were rejectionists – a key message of extremist Sunnis in the Middle East.

But there were other hints on the web post that Monis had become radicalised: a rambling October letter he penned to the Muslim community rejected the “new religion” of moderate Islam. ‘This pen is my gun and these words are my bullets, I fight by these weapons against oppression to promote peace,’ he wrote.

An image on the website appears to show Monis wearing the same headband that photographs suggest he donned during the Martin Place siege, reading: “We are ready to sacrifice for you, O Muhammad.”

Shortly after Tony Abbott’s government was elected in September last year, Monis sent the prime minister a letter inviting him to a live debate in which he said he would prove that “Australia and Australians will be attacked” as a result of the country’s participation in the war in Afghanistan.

Manny Conditsis, a lawyer who represented Monis at one point, has decribed his former client as an isolated figure who might have felt that he had nothing to lose, “hence participating in something as desperate and outrageous as this”.

“His ideology is just so strong and so powerful that it clouds his vision for common sense and objectiveness,” Conditsis told ABC news.



hmm no religious huh?  and no connection to ISIL/S ?? he may not have been a card carrying member, but was happy to go along with the call from these grubs to be a lone wolf.

AFP have every right to act upon any threat to our security...be it through phone conversations , emails or whatever

Again those that couldn't help themselves accusing the PM of staging it all....I cant say those words here

Australia in mourning again

RIP to the hostages and condolences to all families and friends

and if not religious why display the flag?

extremists, of every creed, are a massive problem that need to be addressed

He wasn't a terrorist.....just a fckwit.

Agreed Woopi

Again those that couldn't help themselves accusing the PM of staging it all....I cant say those words here

Who said anything like that?

Bjt with all due  respect mate you need to stop making excuses for the extremist and so called moderate elements within their religion.

Why is it that in this country, our country not theirs, that we are the ones who have to bend over backwards to accommodate people who refuse to assimilate properly into a modern society who supposedly came here to get away from all the craap in their own countries yet if we go to their countries we have to strictly adhere to their customs and rules.

There are good and bad people in every race, creed and or religion but most are more flexible than some of these nutters and even some of the so called moderates.

Why is that wherever in the world they go certain elements within them cause problems, that is an indisputable fact.

Come to our country by all means but park your religious and ethnic hatred bullshit at the door the pendulum has swung far too much their way and needs to swing back in our favour, this is our country, it's still a modern christian country with christian based ideals, customs and laws and if you don't like our ideals, customs and our laws then piss off.

More than ever I despise organised religion of any denomination, the farkwits all essentially believe in the same damn thing, I am sick of this my god is better than your god craap, religious fanatics of all persuasions and fundamentalist christians as every bit as bad as radical muslims are responsible for more death, destruction, misery, famine, you name something horrible caused by man that is inflicted upon innocents and they're more than likely responsible for it and 9one of them will be happy i until they bring the whole world down in bloody great screaming heap.

If your first, second and third allegiances aren't to this country and our modern customs, ideals and laws then fark off back to wherever you came from and see how you go back there but don't turn our country into the sort of backward shiithole that you came from.