
Sep 24, 2014 -- 5:52AM, Thebas wrote:
setting legal limits for car drivers etc would be tricky - not enough testing has been done to determine safety etc (and pls dont say dopers drive slower - that is not relevent imo lol) -
Do they set limits on prescription meds on levels? Should be no different. The biggest worry is drowsiness, but plenty of over the counters do that.
Not saying it shouldn't, or should, or shouldn't because of or should because of, just pointing it out.
Yeah my forum went to siht too. Switched to firefox. In fact going to switch all to firefox I think. Chrome is turning into a piece of siht.
Thebas • September 24, 2014 5:55 AM BST
and yes re the history of the plant - was legal up until alcohol prohibition when they listed it incorrectly as a narcotic - and there it has stayed since
Based on the premise that it made white women more likely to sleep with "negroes", and entertainers who were playing the devil music. FFS And also obviously the endless industries that it would put out of business.
And in doing so, being more effective, more efficient, crops growing constantly,
whilst,
creating a negative carbon footprint from start of growing, to end of production of whatever the industry was producing.
You really want to lower the CO2 levels, you legalise this, and we will all sit in our energy efficient houses, driving our safe cars, running on biodiesel, cancer free, mentally stable, and living a happy life.
But then, what about the timber industry that is wiping our planet, the oil industry etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc?
I say fcuk them. But then if that were going to happen, it already would have.
Sep 24, 2014 -- 7:24AM, THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON wrote:
See, Loggy? TB gets it!Take a leaf.
yes Spoon & Loggy and a genuine High to you both - ummm i mean Hi

Sep 24, 2014 -- 1:07PM, Lets Elope wrote:
I have nothing against it used being used medicinally for people who suffer from chronic pain cancer sufferers etc the elderly and infirm but there are clearly far more problems associated with its use than many care to admit, not to mention that you are more inclined to try other more dangerous drugs if you're a user.Below is the recent study I was referring to into its effects. Lets Elope10 Sep 14 17:48Joined:05 May 06| Topic/replies: 10,321 | Blogger: Lets Elope's bloghttps://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/24943668/teen-cannabis-use-alert/Teen cannabis use alertCathy O'Leary Medical Editor The West Australian September 10, 2014, 2:10 amTeen cannabis use alert The West AustralianTeen cannabis use is far from harmless, according to a landmark study that found even those who smoked it only occasionally were at higher risk of school dropout, suicidal behaviour and other drug use.In one of the biggest studies of its kind into Australia's most widely used illicit drug, researchers, including Curtin University's National Drug Research Institute, looked at cannabis use in 3765 teens aged under 17 and tracked them to the age of 25.Writing in The Lancet, researchers said teenagers who had cannabis daily were seven times more likely to try to take their own life, 18 times more likely to become dependent on cannabis and eight times more likely to use other illicit drugs.Even accounting for factors such as wealth and family issues, teen users were 60 per cent more likely to drop out of high school.The researchers said the risk of poor educational and health outcomes increased with more frequent cannabis use but findings showed there was no safe level.Even those who smoked it less than once a month had double the rate of cannabis dependence by age 25 and were 62 per cent more likely to attempt suicide.Lead researcher Edmund Sil-ins, from the University of NSW, said yesterday the results were strong evidence that teenage cannabis use was a direct cause of problems in young adult life, including mental health issues."The findings are timely, given there are some moves to decriminalise or legalise cannabis, which might make it more accessible," Dr Silins said.The more cannabis was used in adolescence the worse off the user but there was still an effect from once-a-month a use.Co-researcher David Fergusson, of New Zealand's University of Otago, said the risks from teen cannabis use were specific to that drug and different from alcohol.He said though drinking was linked to problem behaviour such as aggression, the fallout from using cannabis included suicidal tendencies and low educational achievement.An estimated one in 25 Australian teenagers aged 14 to 19 use cannabis weekly.If you or someone you know is thinking of suicide, phone Lifeline on 13 11 14
Doesn't seem like a very reliable article to me. What are they smoking? Who are they comparing to? How many really allowed them to follow them around for a decade, and how many non users did the same?
The killer for me, is Even those who smoked it less than once a month had double the rate of cannabis dependence by age 25...
How dependent are you if you are smoking it less than once a month?
Maybe next time, they should find a sample of teens that have attempted suicide, and came back 8 years later and seen the results of how many that turned to cannabis turned that around.
When you consider that of the 22 suicides per day coming from PTSD from soldiers returning home, cannabis turning that on it's head as one of the only things that work, to suggest that it increases the chance of suicide is just ridiculous.
Sep 24, 2014 -- 2:40PM, logroller wrote:
all this is either here nor there, the biggest factor is simple, all drugs are bad for you, we know this, we know sugar is bad for us, junk food, milk so on and on we go.it is not hard to get any drug you want, so the fight against drugs just doesn't work and it will never workso what we have here is substances and an industry that creates a massive amount of money for crims, there is only one larger industry and that is illegal arms, which is fuelled by the sale of illegal drugs. so to say because certain drugs are illegal we are protecting society is just pure fantasy.and to say drugs have an ill effect on children, well derr, that's why we put age limits out there and try to educate about the evils that surround our children.to me it's simple "legalize all drugs" cut off the the money supply to all the bad guys, and educate your children until they are old enough to make their own choices in life
noun
1.
Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
2.
any substance recognized in the official pharmacopoeia or formulary of the nation.
any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.
any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.
any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.
3.
a habit-forming medicinal or illicit substance, especially a narcotic.
4.
drugs.
chemical substances prepared and sold as pharmaceutical items, either by prescription or over the counter.
personal hygienic items sold in a drugstore, as toothpaste, mouthwash, etc.
5.
Obsolete. any ingredient used in chemistry, pharmacy, dyeing, or the like.
Where does marijuana fit in though? I can't see it fit anywhere in any of those.
From where I sit, marijuana is a food source that makes more sense than any other.
Simple question. Why do you say marijuana is bad for you?
Sep 28, 2014 -- 3:35AM, Lets Elope wrote:
Your lungs aren't designed to take in smoke of any kind they're designed to take in the air we breathe, period.
What has smoking got to do with anything? Out of the million uses for marijuana, smoking it is by far the least effective.
To get the best out of it you make an oil out of it and eat it. Or in the form of skin cancers, you simply rub the oil on them.
If the only thing you can think of to do with marijuana is smoking it, perhaps you need to do a little more research into it before deciding to post an opinion.
Sep 28, 2014 -- 3:19AM, VeryLTU wrote:
give him time juniorbond... he's just getting over a slab and fifty bongs from yesterday
Couldn't even guess what is going on. Usually Junior is stalking me, but must be here for the guy drinking a slab and smoking 50 bongs that he is here for this time, whoever that may be.

classic stuff imo......... but a lost cause juniordouble, bjt is humourless. You'll never get the emotional part of his brain stimulated, its' swamped with so much thc the nerves don't let the electrons move anymore
.. i see him more as a person from the planet vulcan, seriousness his only emotion, someone who can communicate with a statue... and has pointy ears. Mr Bjspock.

