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love sustained powerrrr
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
a protest goes my way
had the quinny..
for 30 per cent
a protest goes my way
had the quinny..
for 30 per cent
LUV those jocks with brother in laws that lay their mounts IMO
were you on the kwinny at doomsday LIH
Speaking of Quins
That's the 2nd time the 'Boom quins' have paid massive unders on all totes.
That's the 2nd time the 'Boom quins' have paid massive unders on all totes.
4--DOUBLE POCKETS--massive value at morphine-park
No problem LIH, glad to help, the cont judge never says thanks
Newcastle Stace, last start better than looks on paper and start before was very good
5--LAUREN TATE--place only--at doomsday
LIH--gets to eat the colonels special recipe of 147 herbs and 17 spices
SR 08Q Quinella 2.5.6.7.8.9.11.13 ALLWAYS 6 bucks gets u 21% 
Wicked Tycoon might be geeting a cosy run and finish over the top next at adelaide
Continuing on, Srikandi's time puts her about 9th in the 10,000 or just shy of 4 lengths of the winner in that race.
Yeah she rates very well and is unextended. I obviously don't want her to be too good next week as I have grand plans and house designs in place, but she is very interesting and would provide something that has been missing in the 3yos so far, in a genuine pace runner with the ability to push through to the line.
Will be a very interesting market next week, with most of the Fred Best lining up I assume, with Srikandi, and a couple of others no doubt.
Wouldn't miss it for the world.
Will be a very interesting market next week, with most of the Fred Best lining up I assume, with Srikandi, and a couple of others no doubt.
Wouldn't miss it for the world.
BJT...do you have an interest (ownership) in her.....hope you do
I have no interest passed her setting a speed and getting beaten cold in the straight by a big chestnut next week and her connections wondering what could have been when he wins the Stradbroke the following week. 
BJT..are you up for the Curragh Mile tonight (12.20).....Kingman gets to answer his critics...(1.80)
Too good in another class race over there with 30 lengths covering the field. Mine probably gets up for a place.
In the next race.... ffs
In the next race.... ffs
Scoop 6 ..15 million...122 units left...go to tote ..live pool
8 millionaires somewhere
scoop 6 UK finally goes off 15 million chocolates shared by 8.
scoop 6 UK finally goes off 15 million chocolates shared by 8.
anyone see the ride of nash on brazen beau... was an absolute howler. not looking to improve at all from the 600 to the 300 thought he just pick them up and the leaders would come back to him.. finished with a head full of steam ..if i owned him id be livid ...looks a moral for g1 coming up...
ozzielemon...well spotted ...not expecting winner to improve 6 lengths from their previous clash 2 weeks ago...
although winner (time for war) 's had benefit of its two previous starts 29 March (1200) and 12 April (1400) while BB just had softies over 1100 (5 Feb and 8 March)
Should be excting clashes between them to come. Maybe Nash was saving some in the locker
although winner (time for war) 's had benefit of its two previous starts 29 March (1200) and 12 April (1400) while BB just had softies over 1100 (5 Feb and 8 March)
Should be excting clashes between them to come. Maybe Nash was saving some in the locker
TAB have SRIKANDI 4.50 fav to win the Stradbroke. Fcuking criminal. Think it would be lucky to be 4.50 next start that she needs to win to even make the field of the Stradbroke.
even Boss doesn't know what he did with her yesterday lol
... one statement from one article
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/news/rvl/n_Srikandi_Stradbroke_bound.aspx
It was a performance that impressed Boss, who has been aboard in all three of Srikandi’s black-type wins to date.
“Today was the day to see if she was the real deal,” he said.
“I really wanted to find out a bit about her, see how good she is, so I let her roll forward and jeez that turn of foot on the point of the bend is electric isn’t it?
... yet from another
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/connections-considering-late-entry-fee-to-give-srikandi-a-stradbroke-berth/story-fnibcaa0-1226930247653
"When I bounced she was looking to relax and I had to press her to get her to cross the field.
lol
talking her up and talking her down .. racing will never change .. i wouldn't believe a word anyone says .. make your own opionion imo
....
however Boss did say one other thing tho .. (for what anything is worth that anyone SAYS)
[i]Boss remained reserved in his post-race assessment, refusing to make comparisons to his 2003 Stradbroke Handicap winner, Private Steer.
“She’s no Private steer - Private Steer has lengths on her, but she’s a very good filly obviously,” he said.
... one statement from one article
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/news/rvl/n_Srikandi_Stradbroke_bound.aspx
It was a performance that impressed Boss, who has been aboard in all three of Srikandi’s black-type wins to date.
“Today was the day to see if she was the real deal,” he said.
“I really wanted to find out a bit about her, see how good she is, so I let her roll forward and jeez that turn of foot on the point of the bend is electric isn’t it?
... yet from another
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/connections-considering-late-entry-fee-to-give-srikandi-a-stradbroke-berth/story-fnibcaa0-1226930247653
"When I bounced she was looking to relax and I had to press her to get her to cross the field.
lol
talking her up and talking her down .. racing will never change .. i wouldn't believe a word anyone says .. make your own opionion imo
....
however Boss did say one other thing tho .. (for what anything is worth that anyone SAYS
)[i]Boss remained reserved in his post-race assessment, refusing to make comparisons to his 2003 Stradbroke Handicap winner, Private Steer.
“She’s no Private steer - Private Steer has lengths on her, but she’s a very good filly obviously,” he said.
Caution:..not officially paid up late nomination yet.....will be official price after market re-adjusts....
has anyone seen the finish post at musswellbrook yet? ffs
Strangest thing ...I laid fav and not watching or listening ,,,just watching in play numbers....fav went to zip and I thought oh well damm etc...check my account and I had been credited ....xxx's I might add...I though mistake and just checked Tattsbet ,,,and saw another winner interim....now I see your post LIH and realize ...just one of deceptive finishes....hope you never backed the fav LIH
Curious...did it lead and choke or winner fought on?
Curious...did it lead and choke or winner fought on?
May 25, 2014 -- 5:28AM, henryluca wrote:
Caution:..not officially paid up late nomination yet.....will be official price after market re-adjusts....
That was somewhat the point. The main point, is not only does the horse have to pay up, but it needs to win a G2 race next Saturday to even get in the field as prizemoney isn't getting it close to the ballot. Needs the ballot exemption.
Yet to hear Sky make that point yet. They are merely talking as if it is going and just needs to pay up which connections will do.
Not sure anybody stupid enough to back it at those odds anyway, but the fact of how they are advertising it as basically a walk up start, winning everything, and putting up 4.50 about something it won't possibly start anywhere near those odds even if it does make it in the field, screams a low dog act to me trying to get peoples money in that way.
Or, I am wrong? What am I missing? People are trying to get onto Srikandi on here. 859 already on her to win the Stradbroke at odds between 5.5 and 6.6.
Based on last run, probably her best so far.
She won over 1350 in 1:18.40 coming home in 34.14.
The 2yo G2 race which immediately followed was won in 1:18.75, coming home in 35.37.
They hit the 750m mark at 43.38 vs 44.26. So Srikandi was ~6.2 lengths behind with 600 to go. Beat them by 8.6 lengths over the last 600 to win that race by ~2.45 lengths. Against the 2yos carrying the same weight.
Comparing with the older horses.
Doomben 10,000 same distance, 1:17.93 coming home in 34.33.
Hit the 750 mark at 43.6 seconds, or around 5.88 lengths in front of Srikandi, and ended around 3.3 lengths in front of her placing her around 8th in that race.
Now she ran a week before on the same day as the Fred Best that will make up most of the field in the Guineas, but over a different distance.
But if you go back 2 weeks where the same runners ran over the same distance.
Srikandi ran 1:13.51 coming home in 35.83.
Dothraki ran 1:13.36 coming home in 37.68.
Dothraki wins that race by a length, and thought the job was done at the 100 metres pulling up losing around 3 lengths.
Srikandi went the first 600 in 37.68 vs
Dothraki going the first 600 in 35.88.
So with 600 to go, Dothraki was around 14.4 lengths in front. Srikandi was entitled to take 13.4 lengths off in the last 600 and was entitled to kick without being caught but at the same time, Dothraki pulled up for 100 metres, running through to the line would have been around 5 lengths in front on time.
Now I completely understand that she is winning easy, and said to have a magical kick, but aren't back markers supposed to have a good kick because they have conserved more energy by running slower than those in front of them?
I completely understand that she is seen to be winning easy, so assumed to have a few extra lengths, and would well benefit from the handicap conditions of the Stradbroke.
I also understand that she is a leading horse as shown in her races, but a direct comparison to the winner of a race that will hold a lot of the same horses, shows the time she was leading, was around 14.4 lengths behind at the halfway point.
On direct form without looking at times, you would think that this would be a direct comparison with Bullet Train being entered into a race and Frankel being the direct beneficiary, where Srikandi would lead them up to the turn giving Dothraki the perfect sit which he has been craving since day 1 and a horse to go bang see you later with 200 to go.
But on times, you would have to question if this horse that likes to lead, will even be able to be near the front, and if she does lead, will we see any sort of kick knowing she will be running 8 lengths quicker over the first half of the race as she has been?
And if she runs the same pattern of race based on time, will she get a clear run to even run a final 600 sectional dodging and weaving through the best part of the whole field?
And knowing that she still is running slower than not only the 3yos that she is about to come up against, but also the older horses in the Stradbroke, how in fcuk could she be getting backed at such ridiculous odds?
Am I mistaken in thinking that she has to win to even be able to be in the field of the Stradbroke?
Is this a sign that she is going to be very short odds on for the Guineas? Would people really back her at sub 3.00 in the Guineas, let alone around 1.50? And if she is starting at any higher than 1.50, are we to believe that the winner of the Stradbroke is most likely coming from the 3yo crop?
This is one of those cases where I am so busy scratching my head to find the angle that I have missed with this horse, that I am yet to lay her. I can't for the life of me understand how she is anywhere near those odds, let alone watching people happy to back at that price.
So the question, is what have I missed? It must be something very big and obvious. Right?
And I know, talking about his .01% share again, but I don't give a fcuk. This is the biggest race of his life, and this horse Srikandi is apparantly his main obstacle, so I am happy to ask the questions. If you don't want to read it and don't care, then simply close the thread and move on.
But somebody must have an answer, or opinion, or at least information that I have overlooked?
Based on last run, probably her best so far.
She won over 1350 in 1:18.40 coming home in 34.14.
The 2yo G2 race which immediately followed was won in 1:18.75, coming home in 35.37.
They hit the 750m mark at 43.38 vs 44.26. So Srikandi was ~6.2 lengths behind with 600 to go. Beat them by 8.6 lengths over the last 600 to win that race by ~2.45 lengths. Against the 2yos carrying the same weight.
Comparing with the older horses.
Doomben 10,000 same distance, 1:17.93 coming home in 34.33.
Hit the 750 mark at 43.6 seconds, or around 5.88 lengths in front of Srikandi, and ended around 3.3 lengths in front of her placing her around 8th in that race.
Now she ran a week before on the same day as the Fred Best that will make up most of the field in the Guineas, but over a different distance.
But if you go back 2 weeks where the same runners ran over the same distance.
Srikandi ran 1:13.51 coming home in 35.83.
Dothraki ran 1:13.36 coming home in 37.68.
Dothraki wins that race by a length, and thought the job was done at the 100 metres pulling up losing around 3 lengths.
Srikandi went the first 600 in 37.68 vs
Dothraki going the first 600 in 35.88.
So with 600 to go, Dothraki was around 14.4 lengths in front. Srikandi was entitled to take 13.4 lengths off in the last 600 and was entitled to kick without being caught but at the same time, Dothraki pulled up for 100 metres, running through to the line would have been around 5 lengths in front on time.
Now I completely understand that she is winning easy, and said to have a magical kick, but aren't back markers supposed to have a good kick because they have conserved more energy by running slower than those in front of them?
I completely understand that she is seen to be winning easy, so assumed to have a few extra lengths, and would well benefit from the handicap conditions of the Stradbroke.
I also understand that she is a leading horse as shown in her races, but a direct comparison to the winner of a race that will hold a lot of the same horses, shows the time she was leading, was around 14.4 lengths behind at the halfway point.
On direct form without looking at times, you would think that this would be a direct comparison with Bullet Train being entered into a race and Frankel being the direct beneficiary, where Srikandi would lead them up to the turn giving Dothraki the perfect sit which he has been craving since day 1 and a horse to go bang see you later with 200 to go.
But on times, you would have to question if this horse that likes to lead, will even be able to be near the front, and if she does lead, will we see any sort of kick knowing she will be running 8 lengths quicker over the first half of the race as she has been?
And if she runs the same pattern of race based on time, will she get a clear run to even run a final 600 sectional dodging and weaving through the best part of the whole field?
And knowing that she still is running slower than not only the 3yos that she is about to come up against, but also the older horses in the Stradbroke, how in fcuk could she be getting backed at such ridiculous odds?
Am I mistaken in thinking that she has to win to even be able to be in the field of the Stradbroke?
Is this a sign that she is going to be very short odds on for the Guineas? Would people really back her at sub 3.00 in the Guineas, let alone around 1.50? And if she is starting at any higher than 1.50, are we to believe that the winner of the Stradbroke is most likely coming from the 3yo crop?
This is one of those cases where I am so busy scratching my head to find the angle that I have missed with this horse, that I am yet to lay her. I can't for the life of me understand how she is anywhere near those odds, let alone watching people happy to back at that price.
So the question, is what have I missed? It must be something very big and obvious. Right?
And I know, talking about his .01% share again, but I don't give a fcuk. This is the biggest race of his life, and this horse Srikandi is apparantly his main obstacle, so I am happy to ask the questions. If you don't want to read it and don't care, then simply close the thread and move on.
But somebody must have an answer, or opinion, or at least information that I have overlooked?
tommy berry already booked for now rebel dane .. with Boss left waiting on the Srikandi nom & accepatance
bossie a victim of circumstances on rebel d in the 10,000 .. but it was a huge run ... and depending on the draw & field i'll be looking at that horse very closely in the big one
and ... with Srikandi .. the situation appears that all other horses have 'known peaks' that they will either hit or exceed (or fail) in the straddie .. but there is "a target" as such
the rising 4yo mare is yet to have "her peak" exposed ... so i can understand (without following in lol) all the interest in her ... if she is still improving then her top rating is as yet unknown ...
but without a field or barriers then any market is of loose interest only at this stage surely ... tho plenty appear to be getting involved & set early i guess
i doubt she will even want to lead in the straddie ... and should not really have to .. regardless as you have pointed out with the excellent dissemination of the sectionals ... if she is even able to ...
but for your horse's interest ... doth would certainly prefer to be hanging off a natural speed runner ... than getting sucked into doing it himself up front
gonna be an interesting race for sure (once we know the field & draw lol)
bossie a victim of circumstances on rebel d in the 10,000 .. but it was a huge run ... and depending on the draw & field i'll be looking at that horse very closely in the big one
and ... with Srikandi .. the situation appears that all other horses have 'known peaks' that they will either hit or exceed (or fail) in the straddie .. but there is "a target" as such
the rising 4yo mare is yet to have "her peak" exposed ... so i can understand (without following in lol) all the interest in her ... if she is still improving then her top rating is as yet unknown ...
but without a field or barriers then any market is of loose interest only at this stage surely ... tho plenty appear to be getting involved & set early i guess
i doubt she will even want to lead in the straddie ... and should not really have to .. regardless as you have pointed out with the excellent dissemination of the sectionals ... if she is even able to ...
but for your horse's interest ... doth would certainly prefer to be hanging off a natural speed runner ... than getting sucked into doing it himself up front
gonna be an interesting race for sure (once we know the field & draw lol
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3yo filly even.
But I am right in thinking taking 5.50-6.00 about Srikandi now is the equivalent of taking it in a 2 leg multi to both win the Guineas against the likes of Dothraki/Havana/Safeguard/Hucklebuck/Costa Viva, into beating in the second leg of the multi Rebel Dane/Spirit Of Boom/Catkins/Red Tracer/Knoydart.
Basically looking at odds of say 2.00 into 3.00 or 1.50 into 4.00, or 4.00 into 1.50, etc etc etc etc.
Right?
Pickabee. Won 2 F+M 75k races in QLD before being beaten by 8 lengths by Red Tracer. Then beaten 3.3 lengths against Srikandi? A 4.5 length worse result than when Red Tracer beat her? First up, yet the preceding campaign saw her worst result first up before improving up to getting flogged by Red Tracer. Right?
Rebel Dane as you pointed out. Coming off genuine group 1 races with form around Buffering/Lucky Nine/Lankan Rupee who he got beaten by 2 lengths, against the apparant best sprinter in the world.
Yet not only is she favourite against this horse, but she has to step up in class in a race she needs to win to even get a start, which will be her 3rd start in 3 weeks, 4th in 5 weeks, to then run in her 4th in 4 weeks and 5th run in 6 weeks.
Now the trainer comes out and says that her race was easier than she would have had it at training on the Tuesday so why not run her again? Is that because she is so much better, or because she is benefitting from races where she got away with murder up front running ridiculously slow times, and kicked first and was unable to be caught in races which were effectively a rolling start 600 metre race where she started 2 lengths in front of the field?
She has to win this week right to even get a start in the Stradbroke? I am at least right there?
But I am right in thinking taking 5.50-6.00 about Srikandi now is the equivalent of taking it in a 2 leg multi to both win the Guineas against the likes of Dothraki/Havana/Safeguard/Hucklebuck/Costa Viva, into beating in the second leg of the multi Rebel Dane/Spirit Of Boom/Catkins/Red Tracer/Knoydart.
Basically looking at odds of say 2.00 into 3.00 or 1.50 into 4.00, or 4.00 into 1.50, etc etc etc etc.
Right?
Pickabee. Won 2 F+M 75k races in QLD before being beaten by 8 lengths by Red Tracer. Then beaten 3.3 lengths against Srikandi? A 4.5 length worse result than when Red Tracer beat her? First up, yet the preceding campaign saw her worst result first up before improving up to getting flogged by Red Tracer. Right?
Rebel Dane as you pointed out. Coming off genuine group 1 races with form around Buffering/Lucky Nine/Lankan Rupee who he got beaten by 2 lengths, against the apparant best sprinter in the world.
Yet not only is she favourite against this horse, but she has to step up in class in a race she needs to win to even get a start, which will be her 3rd start in 3 weeks, 4th in 5 weeks, to then run in her 4th in 4 weeks and 5th run in 6 weeks.
Now the trainer comes out and says that her race was easier than she would have had it at training on the Tuesday so why not run her again? Is that because she is so much better, or because she is benefitting from races where she got away with murder up front running ridiculously slow times, and kicked first and was unable to be caught in races which were effectively a rolling start 600 metre race where she started 2 lengths in front of the field?
She has to win this week right to even get a start in the Stradbroke? I am at least right there?
Rebel Dane for the record, apparantly carrying 56kg, Spirit Of Boom 58kg, Temple Of Boom 56kg, and Srikandi around 50.5-51kg along with basically the field of the Guineas. Buffering a non starter due to being allocated 59kg so is in the spelling paddock.
yeah we can't and won't know what she is or has (Sri) ... until she races at the higher grade ... it is the only yardstick
but she is definately a ... rising 4yo mare ... 3yo makes her sound like a baby lol
just 9 weeks to go discounting any of their foaling dates
and ... dothraki a rising 4yo entire also .. hard for me to look at him and think he's still an immature 3yo colt
but she is definately a ... rising 4yo mare ... 3yo makes her sound like a baby lol
just 9 weeks to go discounting any of their foaling dates
and ... dothraki a rising 4yo entire also
.. hard for me to look at him and think he's still an immature 3yo colt
I think i read that in the Herald sun.
If I’m wrong, it's their fault.
If I’m wrong, it's their fault.
Srikandi on the drift, Kiwi backed at big odds in 2014 Stradbroke Handicap
Nic Ashman - 26/05/2014
After firming into favouritism for the Stradbroke Handicap, Saturday's Doomben winner Srikandi has drifted as champion jockey Glen Boss contemplates riding the filly in Queensland's richest race.
Srikandi made it five straight when she won the Glenlogan Park Stakes on the weekend, cementing her spot in the Stradbroke Handicap.
Surely not.
Srikandi"s jockey Glen Boss was a week earlier talking down Srikandi"s Stradbroke chances but was far more bullish after her latest win.
The Stradbroke is notoriously hard to win for frontrunning horses but Boss insisted Srikandi did not have to lead to win.
"She is not one-dimensional, she never has been. It is just the way it has panned out with her leading," Boss said.
"When I bounced she was looking to relax and I had to press her to get her to cross the field.
"I wanted to find out how good she was. I sent her along in front and I made sure I didn't go slow. If they were good enough they were going to beat me.
"Everyone got their chance behind me.
Say what? The 2 year olds went out 6.5 lengths faster ffs.
Boss Happy To Partner Srikandi In Stradbroke Handicap
By: Thomas Hackett
May 27th, 2014
Glen Boss will take the ride on Srikandi in the 2014 Stradbroke Handicap and leading hoop believes that there is plenty to suggest the talented filly can take out the Group 1 event at Eagle Farm on June 7.
Glen Boss steered Srikandi to victory for the third start in a row in the Glenlogan Park Stakes at Doomben on Saturday.
Glen Boss steered Srikandi to victory for the third start in a row in the Glenlogan Park Stakes at Doomben on Saturday. Photo by: Daniel Costello
Boss was forced to choose between partnering Srikandi or Rebel Dane in the Stradbroke Handicap, after they both performed well at Doomben on Saturday, but the decision was taken out of his hands when Tommy Berry was booked to ride Rebel Dane in the feature event of the 2014 Brisbane Winter Racing Carnival.
Boss has partnered Srikandi in each of her victories in Queensland this preparation and told Sky Racing HQ this morning that he is more than happy to stick with the Dubawi filly after she carried 57 kilograms against a strong field in the Group 3 Glenlogan Park Stakes (1350m) at Doomben on Saturday.
“Everybody is going to have their opinion, but to mine it is quiet an obvious one,” Boss said.
Read more: http://www.horseracing.com.au/news/boss-happy-to-partner-srikandi-in-stradbroke-handicap/#ixzz32v8OGlZm
Yet to find anything online that says she isn't a walk up start, yet still nominated for Saturday. Guess we know more if she is accepted in the morning.
All I can really think, is ENQUARE. Winning mickey mouse QLD black type races against her own sex, with an outstanding record, then thrown against the colts and stuck looking at a stack of ballbags in front of her.
Same thing happens here IMO.
Nic Ashman - 26/05/2014
After firming into favouritism for the Stradbroke Handicap, Saturday's Doomben winner Srikandi has drifted as champion jockey Glen Boss contemplates riding the filly in Queensland's richest race.
Srikandi made it five straight when she won the Glenlogan Park Stakes on the weekend, cementing her spot in the Stradbroke Handicap.
Surely not.
Srikandi"s jockey Glen Boss was a week earlier talking down Srikandi"s Stradbroke chances but was far more bullish after her latest win.
The Stradbroke is notoriously hard to win for frontrunning horses but Boss insisted Srikandi did not have to lead to win.
"She is not one-dimensional, she never has been. It is just the way it has panned out with her leading," Boss said.
"When I bounced she was looking to relax and I had to press her to get her to cross the field.
"I wanted to find out how good she was. I sent her along in front and I made sure I didn't go slow. If they were good enough they were going to beat me.
"Everyone got their chance behind me.
Say what? The 2 year olds went out 6.5 lengths faster ffs.
Boss Happy To Partner Srikandi In Stradbroke Handicap
By: Thomas Hackett
May 27th, 2014
Glen Boss will take the ride on Srikandi in the 2014 Stradbroke Handicap and leading hoop believes that there is plenty to suggest the talented filly can take out the Group 1 event at Eagle Farm on June 7.
Glen Boss steered Srikandi to victory for the third start in a row in the Glenlogan Park Stakes at Doomben on Saturday.
Glen Boss steered Srikandi to victory for the third start in a row in the Glenlogan Park Stakes at Doomben on Saturday. Photo by: Daniel Costello
Boss was forced to choose between partnering Srikandi or Rebel Dane in the Stradbroke Handicap, after they both performed well at Doomben on Saturday, but the decision was taken out of his hands when Tommy Berry was booked to ride Rebel Dane in the feature event of the 2014 Brisbane Winter Racing Carnival.
Boss has partnered Srikandi in each of her victories in Queensland this preparation and told Sky Racing HQ this morning that he is more than happy to stick with the Dubawi filly after she carried 57 kilograms against a strong field in the Group 3 Glenlogan Park Stakes (1350m) at Doomben on Saturday.
“Everybody is going to have their opinion, but to mine it is quiet an obvious one,” Boss said.
Read more: http://www.horseracing.com.au/news/boss-happy-to-partner-srikandi-in-stradbroke-handicap/#ixzz32v8OGlZm
Yet to find anything online that says she isn't a walk up start, yet still nominated for Saturday. Guess we know more if she is accepted in the morning.
All I can really think, is ENQUARE. Winning mickey mouse QLD black type races against her own sex, with an outstanding record, then thrown against the colts and stuck looking at a stack of ballbags in front of her.
Same thing happens here IMO.
Great commentary.
Re: any prices (odds) .....must be looked at in context of the market percentages......havent looked but guess is that its probably at 150 % (.....just looked ...betfair antepost 192%)...so looks a lay proposition at this point just based on that thought.....
Probably worth laying at 5's and backing at 6.5 / 7
Re: any prices (odds) .....must be looked at in context of the market percentages......havent looked but guess is that its probably at 150 % (.....just looked ...betfair antepost 192%)...so looks a lay proposition at this point just based on that thought.....
Probably worth laying at 5's and backing at 6.5 / 7
Interesting article here. Srikandi is in the field.
BOOM filly Srikandi is in the field and so too are a number of runners who originally had to win this weekend to secure a start in next week’s AAMI Stradbroke following first acceptances this morning.
The QTC Cup and Queensland Guineas were seen as a last chance saloon for many runners, but the desperation has eased with the field falling right away this morning.
Srikandi has been elevated to 12th in the ballot order after being 24th when her late nomination was received yesterday.
Highly rated three-year-olds Hucklebuck and Dothraki are also safely in the field.
The notable absentee from those safe is the Kiwi Sacred Star (28th), who still has to win Saturday’s QTC Cup to gain his place in the field.
Sacred Star was backed at $67 following an easy Doomben barrier trial win earlier this month and is TattsBet’s worst result in the race.
The updated order is:
AAMI STRADBROKE (1400M) GROUP 1
Order of entry after first acceptances
1= Spirit of Boom (Tony Gollan) 57.5
5 Rebel Dane (Gary Portelli) 56.0
1= Famous Seamus (NZ) (Noel Mayfield-Smith) 55.5
4 Red Tracer (Chris Waller) B+2.0 55.5
7 Temple of Boom (Tony Gollan) 55.5
1=‡ Smokin’ Joey (Wez Hunter) 55.0
8 River Lad (Natalie Mccall) 54.5
6 Catkins (Chris Waller) B+2.0 53.5
9 Conservatorium (Gary Kennewell) 53.5
10 Knoydart (John O’Shea) 53.0
11 Belltone (Kelso Wood) 53.0
13 Velrosso (Chris Waller) 52.0
15 Emblems (John O’Shea) 52.0
17 Reparations (Anthony Freedman) 52.0
18 Peron (John P Thompson) 52.0
19 Lucky Hussler (Kent Fleming) 52.0
20 Scorpio Queen (Kris Lees) 52.0
21 Black Cash (Kelly Doughty) 52.0
24 Belle de Coeur (Luke Price) 52.0
25 Doubtfilly (Stuart Kendrick) 52.0
26‡ Scream Machine (Jason Coyle) 52.0
27 Masthead (Chris Waller) 52.0
28 Sacred Star (Tony Pike) 52.0
30 Mishani Stealth (Les Ross) 52.0
12‡ Srikandi (Ciaron Maher) B+0.5 50.5
14 Hucklebuck (Phillip Stokes) 50.5
16 Dothraki (Gerald Ryan) 50.5
22 Into the Red (Kelso Wood) 50.5
23 Havana (Paul Messara) 50.5
29 Nicked And Court (Liam Birchley) 50.5
BOOM filly Srikandi is in the field and so too are a number of runners who originally had to win this weekend to secure a start in next week’s AAMI Stradbroke following first acceptances this morning.
The QTC Cup and Queensland Guineas were seen as a last chance saloon for many runners, but the desperation has eased with the field falling right away this morning.
Srikandi has been elevated to 12th in the ballot order after being 24th when her late nomination was received yesterday.
Highly rated three-year-olds Hucklebuck and Dothraki are also safely in the field.
The notable absentee from those safe is the Kiwi Sacred Star (28th), who still has to win Saturday’s QTC Cup to gain his place in the field.
Sacred Star was backed at $67 following an easy Doomben barrier trial win earlier this month and is TattsBet’s worst result in the race.
The updated order is:
AAMI STRADBROKE (1400M) GROUP 1
Order of entry after first acceptances
1= Spirit of Boom (Tony Gollan) 57.5
5 Rebel Dane (Gary Portelli) 56.0
1= Famous Seamus (NZ) (Noel Mayfield-Smith) 55.5
4 Red Tracer (Chris Waller) B+2.0 55.5
7 Temple of Boom (Tony Gollan) 55.5
1=‡ Smokin’ Joey (Wez Hunter) 55.0
8 River Lad (Natalie Mccall) 54.5
6 Catkins (Chris Waller) B+2.0 53.5
9 Conservatorium (Gary Kennewell) 53.5
10 Knoydart (John O’Shea) 53.0
11 Belltone (Kelso Wood) 53.0
13 Velrosso (Chris Waller) 52.0
15 Emblems (John O’Shea) 52.0
17 Reparations (Anthony Freedman) 52.0
18 Peron (John P Thompson) 52.0
19 Lucky Hussler (Kent Fleming) 52.0
20 Scorpio Queen (Kris Lees) 52.0
21 Black Cash (Kelly Doughty) 52.0
24 Belle de Coeur (Luke Price) 52.0
25 Doubtfilly (Stuart Kendrick) 52.0
26‡ Scream Machine (Jason Coyle) 52.0
27 Masthead (Chris Waller) 52.0
28 Sacred Star (Tony Pike) 52.0
30 Mishani Stealth (Les Ross) 52.0
12‡ Srikandi (Ciaron Maher) B+0.5 50.5
14 Hucklebuck (Phillip Stokes) 50.5
16 Dothraki (Gerald Ryan) 50.5
22 Into the Red (Kelso Wood) 50.5
23 Havana (Paul Messara) 50.5
29 Nicked And Court (Liam Birchley) 50.5
She will have to be ridden for speed to stay out of the way of the pushing, bumping, eye gauching, hair pulling, groin kicking, rough and tumble of some of these .......who have been and done it at this elite level....
Rising 4 year old or not she hasnt been there and its not like she is the size Miss Finland was at this stage of development so IMO she may be able to do using speed of foot and light weight advantage only
Rising 4 year old or not she hasnt been there and its not like she is the size Miss Finland was at this stage of development so IMO she may be able to do using speed of foot and light weight advantage only
She is in the field. I now no longer care about her. She was merely a stepping stone for mine to get there. Now my issue, is whether the article was accurate or not, and how the ballot works, and is he safely in the field, or can a few go passed him and knock him out?
i'm not sure of the ballot clauses BJ but there are generally a few that fall away after this weekend's meeting .. and one (or two) that get a leg up from their wins - who knows
i'm working around sri also - but 3yo fillies (yes rising 4 definately) have a record in the past decade tho she is unlike either of them in that they BOTH started in the 10,000 giving them experience against the class & age as you & henry have mentioned
she is no Private Steer (according to boss) who won in 2003 .. and a different style to La Montagna who won in 2006 .. but she makes the race interesting as she is bred to run the trip strongly probably out to a mile later .. so her performances against her own age were simply that she was a different level to them
it's a lottery race ... always has been ... and who gets the best run under the circumstances usually wins ... that is all ... no more no less
i'm working around sri also - but 3yo fillies (yes rising 4 definately) have a record in the past decade tho she is unlike either of them in that they BOTH started in the 10,000 giving them experience against the class & age as you & henry have mentioned
she is no Private Steer (according to boss) who won in 2003 .. and a different style to La Montagna who won in 2006 .. but she makes the race interesting as she is bred to run the trip strongly probably out to a mile later .. so her performances against her own age were simply that she was a different level to them
it's a lottery race ... always has been ... and who gets the best run under the circumstances usually wins ... that is all ... no more no less
kayno will win one of these one day - I live in hope its today -on e.w
May 28, 2014 -- 4:56AM, Thebas wrote:
i'm not sure of the ballot clauses BJ but there are generally a few that fall away after this weekend's meeting .. and one (or two) that get a leg up from their wins - who knowsi'm working around sri also - but 3yo fillies (yes rising 4 definately) have a record in the past decade tho she is unlike either of them in that they BOTH started in the 10,000 giving them experience against the class & age as you & henry have mentionedshe is no Private Steer (according to boss) who won in 2003 .. and a different style to La Montagna who won in 2006 .. but she makes the race interesting as she is bred to run the trip strongly probably out to a mile later .. so her performances against her own age were simply that she was a different level to themit's a lottery race ... always has been ... and who gets the best run under the circumstances usually wins ... that is all ... no more no less
I thought it was a case of prizemoney.
But if you look at Srikandi vs Dothraki.
Dothraki 360k prizemoney vs
Srikandi 316k prizemoney
Dothraki 1 G3 win, 1 listed
Srikandi 1 G3 win, 2 listed.
Srikandi above Dothraki in the ballot.
It is my assumption it is some sort of countback system. Most G1 wins top of the ballot, then G2, then G3, then listed. If still a tie, prizemoney.
Using that method, as simple as it is, it would stand to reason that there is no G3 races this weekend, but 2 G2 races, so 2 possible horses that can go straight ahead in the ballot.
That being the case, with 18 starters, IMO that dictates that being 16 in the ballot now, can only possibly go back to 18, meaning he is assured of a start. But that is based on an assumption of how the ballot works.
As for Srikandi, I believe the horse is fast and on times alone capable of throwing a spanner in the works, but we are talking about a horse that is being compared to horses in their races, as opposed to her who has basically been having time trials.
Already established there is no way in hell she will lead the field in the Stradbroke, so will be back in the ruck somewhere in a field of 18 seasoned horses. Would take a perfect run for her to get close IMO. And if indeed she did push to lead, she would be a sitting duck in the straight. So I have really taken her out of most calculations now.
Balaklava race 5......2 year old taking on the older horses ...Hostile;;;even money / 1.80 on track ...WHAT THA !! (unplaced of course)
I thought it was a case of prizemoney.
But if you look at Srikandi vs Dothraki.
Dothraki 360k prizemoney vs
Srikandi 316k prizemoney
Dothraki 1 G3 win, 1 listed
Srikandi 1 G3 win, 2 listed.
Srikandi above Dothraki in the ballot.
Srikandi is above your bloke simply because she has a higher BM figure than him
But if you look at Srikandi vs Dothraki.
Dothraki 360k prizemoney vs
Srikandi 316k prizemoney
Dothraki 1 G3 win, 1 listed
Srikandi 1 G3 win, 2 listed.
Srikandi above Dothraki in the ballot.
Srikandi is above your bloke simply because she has a higher BM figure than him
May 28, 2014 -- 7:02AM, spyvspy27 wrote:
I thought it was a case of prizemoney.But if you look at Srikandi vs Dothraki.Dothraki 360k prizemoney vsSrikandi 316k prizemoneyDothraki 1 G3 win, 1 listedSrikandi 1 G3 win, 2 listed.Srikandi above Dothraki in the ballot.Srikandi is above your bloke simply because she has a higher BM figure than him
He has a 95 rating. Hucklebuck has a 94 rating. Yet Hucklebuck is also above him.
Well I am a bit of a prick. Enough apparantly to overcome the beautiful respectful people that own the other 99.99% of the horse.
Maybe try here for clarification BJT
Handicapping/Grading
Thoroughbred: (07) 3869 9726 (07) 3269 6043 racing@racingqueensland.com.au
Handicapping/Grading
Thoroughbred: (07) 3869 9726 (07) 3269 6043 racing@racingqueensland.com.au
Will be top 5 in the ballot by Saturday afternoon anyway, so really not important.
Just to find out how H/buck is aheaD OF YOUR BLOKE IN THE BALLOT
Well it happens often. If you look at the races at Eagle Farm on Saturday, most follow your ballot rule, but there are a couple that don't make much sense.
Race 6 - 3:00PM SKY RACING QUEENSLAND GUINEAS (1400 METRES)
Of $350,000.1st $224,000, 2nd $70,000, 3rd $35,000, 4th $14,000, 5th $7,000 GROUP 2
Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.
Field Limit: 18 + 5 EM
No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 x8331x3513 DOTHRAKI Gerald Ryan Nash Rawiller 1 57kg 95
2 142638x025 SAFEGUARD John O'Shea Michael Rodd 12 57kg 93
3 1312x118x4 HUCKLEBUCK Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur 15 57kg 94
4 1225x39472 LIBERTY’S CHOICE Gai Waterhouse Blake Shinn 11 57kg 80
5 x6117x5x16 SIR MOMENTS Steven O'dea Timothy Bell 5 57kg 84
6 8x566x1621 HAVANA Paul Messara Luke Nolen 4 57kg 92
7 70x2120x52 INTO THE RED Kelso Wood Chris Munce 19 57kg 85
8 x170x31653 RYKER Gai Waterhouse Tim Clark 17 57kg 76
9 2x1026x311 EASTERN PRINCE Gillian Heinrich Ben Melham 23 57kg 80
10 1x1132x AGADIR John O'Shea Kerrin McEvoy 9 57kg 75
11 210x53 LE VAL Noel J Doyle Ric McMahon 22 57kg 76
12 413615x068 BODEGA NEGRA Bruce W Hill Tye Angland 14 57kg 72.5
13 4x61021x30 PALMERA LAD Roslyn Pratt Anthony Allen (a) 16 57kg 73
14 121123x4 COSTA VIVA Jason Bridgman Jim Byrne 20 55kg 91
15 17x1625 JAZZ SONG Mick Price Craig Newitt 6 55kg 85
16 212547x8 WORDPLAY Anthony Cummings Brenton Avdulla 13 55kg 73
17 0x111259x8 SPLENDORA Matthew Dunn Glen Boss 10 55kg 79.5
18 1409x17020 QUEST FOR PEACE Toby Edmonds 21 55kg 70
19e 160x26314 LONGMA Gai Waterhouse Damian Browne 7 57kg 73
20e 152x0x1240 OLYMPIC ANTHEM (NZ) Robert Heathcote Michael Cahill 2 57kg 71
21e 10x2121x81 L’ENTRECOTE Kelly Schweida Glen Boss 8 57kg 74.5
22e 13x4126x45 NICKED AND COURT Liam Birchley Ryan Wiggins 3 55kg 70
23e 1x051 WALKIN’ TALL Gillian Heinrich 18 57kg 67
L'ENTRECOTE 74.5 is an emergency in the race even though should be ahead in the ballot. QUEST FOR PEACE on 70, and PALMERA LAD 73, WORDPLAY 73 all made the field.
Also Dothraki is ahead of Hucklebuck in the ballot for this race. Safeguard is too although a lower rating. Havana down in 6th and a few others that are out of whack.
Most of the other races of the day are straight highest rating down to lowest.
In the Oaks for example, RING DA BELLE made the field on 61, even though a lower figure than 3 of the emergencies in a 3yo fillies race where there isn't an age/sex variable in play. Does have a win last start though, although no others mentioned do.
This is the balloting conditions though, which appears as you have said.
ATTACHMENT 5
UNIFORM BALLOTING CONDITIONS
For the purpose of balloting, where applicable, and in determining weights and or
penalties in Set Weight and SW&P events, no account shall be taken of bonuses or
added stakes payment not available to all horses eligible to be entered for the race
(Effective December 1, 2012).
Set-weight maiden races (unless otherwise stipulated)
In maiden races run at set weights, horses shall be eliminated in the following order:
1. Raced horses that have not received prize money within their last four starts. The
horse with the greatest number of consecutive runs since earning prize money
shall be eliminated first. Where horses have the same number of consecutive runs
without prize money, they shall be eliminated according to age, with the oldest
eliminated first. In the case of horses of the same age, elimination shall be by lot.
2. Horses that have received the lowest average prize money within their last four
starts. Horses that have received equal average prize money shall be eliminated
by lot.
3. Unraced horses remaining after applying the criteria above shall be eliminated by
lot.
Class 1, 3 and Class 6 plates
Horses will be eliminated in accordance with average prizemoney per start.
At the release of weights, all set-weight races will be displayed in ballot order,
enabling industry participants to know where their horse is placed within the ballot.
General handicap flat races
1. The ballot shall be affected in order from the horse/s with the lowest rating - (the
rating shall include any penalty imposed by the handicapper).
2. The horse with the lowest rating will be balloted first, then the horse with the next
lowest rating, and so on, until the field safety limit is reached. When the
handicapper has allocated equal ratings to two or more horses, they shall be
bracketed together and balloted by lot.
3. The handicapper may promote a horse on the minimum weight that has won a race
since the declaration of weights, according to the new rating of the horse if such
rating does not qualify for a weight penalty.
4. In all Maiden handicap events the ballot shall be affected in order from the horse/s
with the lowest weight. For the purpose of the ballot an age/sex balloting penalty
is added to a horse’s weight. This is used to redress any disadvantage that a
Female or young horse may suffer in balloting against its male or older opponents by
virtue of it having a lower starting weight.
Provided that:
1. in feature handicap flat events and/or weight-for-age/set-weight races, racing
Queensland Limited may stipulate special balloting conditions to be inserted in
the advertised conditions of the race.
2. At non-tab meetings if, at acceptance time, a horse is declared an acceptor in
two or more races on the same program and is entitled to start in any one race;
it may be withdrawn by Racing Queensland from, or placed as an
emergency in, any other race to which conditions of ballot apply. No horse is
permitted to be a dual acceptor on the same program at TAB meetings, except
when drawn by stewards as an emergency in a designated feature race.
3. Extended nominations: In the event that the nomination closing time is
extended for any race or races, Racing Queensland reserves the right to give
preference when balloting to acceptors that were nominated by the original
closing time, irrespective of handicap weight. Late nominations shall be balloted
as per the above conditions.
For the most part, I don't really care and if he wasn't on the fringe, I still probably wouldn't care. But this does pop up time to time when I am looking at future races.
It seemed so obvious that it was just highest rated gets in first, but then it isn't always so. May shoot them an email tomorrow if nobody knows, or is prepared to possibly stop me from continuing to be the only one that doesn't know.
Race 6 - 3:00PM SKY RACING QUEENSLAND GUINEAS (1400 METRES)
Of $350,000.1st $224,000, 2nd $70,000, 3rd $35,000, 4th $14,000, 5th $7,000 GROUP 2
Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.
Field Limit: 18 + 5 EM
No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 x8331x3513 DOTHRAKI Gerald Ryan Nash Rawiller 1 57kg 95
2 142638x025 SAFEGUARD John O'Shea Michael Rodd 12 57kg 93
3 1312x118x4 HUCKLEBUCK Phillip Stokes Dom Tourneur 15 57kg 94
4 1225x39472 LIBERTY’S CHOICE Gai Waterhouse Blake Shinn 11 57kg 80
5 x6117x5x16 SIR MOMENTS Steven O'dea Timothy Bell 5 57kg 84
6 8x566x1621 HAVANA Paul Messara Luke Nolen 4 57kg 92
7 70x2120x52 INTO THE RED Kelso Wood Chris Munce 19 57kg 85
8 x170x31653 RYKER Gai Waterhouse Tim Clark 17 57kg 76
9 2x1026x311 EASTERN PRINCE Gillian Heinrich Ben Melham 23 57kg 80
10 1x1132x AGADIR John O'Shea Kerrin McEvoy 9 57kg 75
11 210x53 LE VAL Noel J Doyle Ric McMahon 22 57kg 76
12 413615x068 BODEGA NEGRA Bruce W Hill Tye Angland 14 57kg 72.5
13 4x61021x30 PALMERA LAD Roslyn Pratt Anthony Allen (a) 16 57kg 73
14 121123x4 COSTA VIVA Jason Bridgman Jim Byrne 20 55kg 91
15 17x1625 JAZZ SONG Mick Price Craig Newitt 6 55kg 85
16 212547x8 WORDPLAY Anthony Cummings Brenton Avdulla 13 55kg 73
17 0x111259x8 SPLENDORA Matthew Dunn Glen Boss 10 55kg 79.5
18 1409x17020 QUEST FOR PEACE Toby Edmonds 21 55kg 70
19e 160x26314 LONGMA Gai Waterhouse Damian Browne 7 57kg 73
20e 152x0x1240 OLYMPIC ANTHEM (NZ) Robert Heathcote Michael Cahill 2 57kg 71
21e 10x2121x81 L’ENTRECOTE Kelly Schweida Glen Boss 8 57kg 74.5
22e 13x4126x45 NICKED AND COURT Liam Birchley Ryan Wiggins 3 55kg 70
23e 1x051 WALKIN’ TALL Gillian Heinrich 18 57kg 67
L'ENTRECOTE 74.5 is an emergency in the race even though should be ahead in the ballot. QUEST FOR PEACE on 70, and PALMERA LAD 73, WORDPLAY 73 all made the field.
Also Dothraki is ahead of Hucklebuck in the ballot for this race. Safeguard is too although a lower rating. Havana down in 6th and a few others that are out of whack.
Most of the other races of the day are straight highest rating down to lowest.
In the Oaks for example, RING DA BELLE made the field on 61, even though a lower figure than 3 of the emergencies in a 3yo fillies race where there isn't an age/sex variable in play. Does have a win last start though, although no others mentioned do.
This is the balloting conditions though, which appears as you have said.
ATTACHMENT 5
UNIFORM BALLOTING CONDITIONS
For the purpose of balloting, where applicable, and in determining weights and or
penalties in Set Weight and SW&P events, no account shall be taken of bonuses or
added stakes payment not available to all horses eligible to be entered for the race
(Effective December 1, 2012).
Set-weight maiden races (unless otherwise stipulated)
In maiden races run at set weights, horses shall be eliminated in the following order:
1. Raced horses that have not received prize money within their last four starts. The
horse with the greatest number of consecutive runs since earning prize money
shall be eliminated first. Where horses have the same number of consecutive runs
without prize money, they shall be eliminated according to age, with the oldest
eliminated first. In the case of horses of the same age, elimination shall be by lot.
2. Horses that have received the lowest average prize money within their last four
starts. Horses that have received equal average prize money shall be eliminated
by lot.
3. Unraced horses remaining after applying the criteria above shall be eliminated by
lot.
Class 1, 3 and Class 6 plates
Horses will be eliminated in accordance with average prizemoney per start.
At the release of weights, all set-weight races will be displayed in ballot order,
enabling industry participants to know where their horse is placed within the ballot.
General handicap flat races
1. The ballot shall be affected in order from the horse/s with the lowest rating - (the
rating shall include any penalty imposed by the handicapper).
2. The horse with the lowest rating will be balloted first, then the horse with the next
lowest rating, and so on, until the field safety limit is reached. When the
handicapper has allocated equal ratings to two or more horses, they shall be
bracketed together and balloted by lot.
3. The handicapper may promote a horse on the minimum weight that has won a race
since the declaration of weights, according to the new rating of the horse if such
rating does not qualify for a weight penalty.
4. In all Maiden handicap events the ballot shall be affected in order from the horse/s
with the lowest weight. For the purpose of the ballot an age/sex balloting penalty
is added to a horse’s weight. This is used to redress any disadvantage that a
Female or young horse may suffer in balloting against its male or older opponents by
virtue of it having a lower starting weight.
Provided that:
1. in feature handicap flat events and/or weight-for-age/set-weight races, racing
Queensland Limited may stipulate special balloting conditions to be inserted in
the advertised conditions of the race.
2. At non-tab meetings if, at acceptance time, a horse is declared an acceptor in
two or more races on the same program and is entitled to start in any one race;
it may be withdrawn by Racing Queensland from, or placed as an
emergency in, any other race to which conditions of ballot apply. No horse is
permitted to be a dual acceptor on the same program at TAB meetings, except
when drawn by stewards as an emergency in a designated feature race.
3. Extended nominations: In the event that the nomination closing time is
extended for any race or races, Racing Queensland reserves the right to give
preference when balloting to acceptors that were nominated by the original
closing time, irrespective of handicap weight. Late nominations shall be balloted
as per the above conditions.
For the most part, I don't really care and if he wasn't on the fringe, I still probably wouldn't care. But this does pop up time to time when I am looking at future races.
It seemed so obvious that it was just highest rated gets in first, but then it isn't always so. May shoot them an email tomorrow if nobody knows, or is prepared to possibly stop me from continuing to be the only one that doesn't know.
But yeah, strange that Dothraki is ahead of Hucklebuck in the ballot for this race, but Hucklebuck is ahead in the ballot for the Stradbroke... Makes little sense to me.
MELBOURNE May 28 2014
Phillip Stokes is facing a dilemma over whether to run Hucklebuck in Saturday's Queensland Guineas or save him for the Stradbroke Handicap.
Hucklebuck has been paid up for the Group Two Queensland Guineas (1400m) but after the release of first acceptances for Saturday week's Stradbroke on Wednesday, Hucklebuck is safely in the field at number 14 in the ballot.
Stokes said he had a bit to think about given he initially figured Hucklebuck would have to run in the Guineas and win to get into the Stradbroke field.
Hucklebuck has also drawn barrier 15 for Saturday's Eagle Farm race which has a capacity field of 18 plus five emergencies.
He would come into gate 11 if the reserves don't start.
"He's got a run in the Stradbroke so do we run on Saturday and hope we get in (from the barrier draw), or just scratch him and go to the Stradbroke? I'm still thinking about that," Stokes said.
Stokes will speak with Hucklebuck's owner and study a speed map for the Guineas before deciding whether the gelding runs in the $350,000 race against his own age.
Hucklebuck raced keenly when he resumed from a let-up in the Group Three Fred Best Classic (1350m) on May 17 at Doomben, finishing fourth after leading.
He is unbeaten in two second-up starts including a 1-1/4 length success in the Group Three C S Hayes Stakes (1400m) at Flemington in February.
Stokes said Hucklebuck had taken good improvement out of his first run in Brisbane.
"We're happy with the horse," Stokes said.
"He's done well since his first-up run and his second-up record is very good."
Phillip Stokes is facing a dilemma over whether to run Hucklebuck in Saturday's Queensland Guineas or save him for the Stradbroke Handicap.
Hucklebuck has been paid up for the Group Two Queensland Guineas (1400m) but after the release of first acceptances for Saturday week's Stradbroke on Wednesday, Hucklebuck is safely in the field at number 14 in the ballot.
Stokes said he had a bit to think about given he initially figured Hucklebuck would have to run in the Guineas and win to get into the Stradbroke field.
Hucklebuck has also drawn barrier 15 for Saturday's Eagle Farm race which has a capacity field of 18 plus five emergencies.
He would come into gate 11 if the reserves don't start.
"He's got a run in the Stradbroke so do we run on Saturday and hope we get in (from the barrier draw), or just scratch him and go to the Stradbroke? I'm still thinking about that," Stokes said.
Stokes will speak with Hucklebuck's owner and study a speed map for the Guineas before deciding whether the gelding runs in the $350,000 race against his own age.
Hucklebuck raced keenly when he resumed from a let-up in the Group Three Fred Best Classic (1350m) on May 17 at Doomben, finishing fourth after leading.
He is unbeaten in two second-up starts including a 1-1/4 length success in the Group Three C S Hayes Stakes (1400m) at Flemington in February.
Stokes said Hucklebuck had taken good improvement out of his first run in Brisbane.
"We're happy with the horse," Stokes said.
"He's done well since his first-up run and his second-up record is very good."
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