Auckland Cup

Did someone say Cup?

How good was that, two complete superstars, one the best mare we have seen in 20 years and the other one of great horses of the last decade.

Wonderful race

Adore Me had every Chance.
Looked at start was sore and nearly Galloping.
Terror to Love i cant catch it

TTL drinks milk when here in aus...

Ricky May throwing grenades at menangle,yes it's a sh!t track but it didn't stop a real champ like beautide..

Not a rugby fan Joel..I will if it's in Thailand

You only live once ,iv no doubt you'd know where to find them

Lloydy I agree with you Alchemy is an almighty prize here now that it is drawn to be leaders back

Plenty of $8 available, I had it just under half that after the scratching.
Well done, it is almost as if people didn't realise where it was drawn!

You've got a relatively short memory AD and are getting a little carried away in my opinion if you think Adore Me is one of the best mares in the last 20 years, has she she even won against the males in open class yet?
Should really have won tonight with the run it had in transit got to the breeze very easily in the final lap and then cruised to the front soon after when Mah Sish was stopping, very good performance by Terror To Love though, clearly just a different horse in NZ but by the same token not sure it was a vintage Auckland Cup either with a number of out of form horses lining up and a  very average horse contesting it in elusive chick.
Adore Me was well and truly entitled to win with the run it had enjoyed, they only got home in 56.7 and 28.2 and it stayed out of the early battle and hadn't done a tap in the run until asked to sprint in the final lap.

It went good but not great in my opinion.

Ever heard of Norm's Daughter which had no problem beating all comers in fast class including winning the 1996 Miracle Mile, Mainland Banner, Kate's First, Kym's Girl etc just off the top of my head.

Hate to see what Norm's Daughter would have done to that lot in the Ladyship Mile with the same run Adore Me had in transit, it would have annihilated Vansumic & co.

Don't get me wrong Adore Me is obviously an outstanding mare but has a long way to go before she proves herself one of the best mares of the last 20 years more hype than substance at this stage until she can prove herself against the very best going around.

Just a bit sick of hearing about ridiculously over hyped horses that's all, before they even proven themselves at the highest level not saying she won't eventually but until she does she shouldn't be mentioned in the class as some of the horses I've mentioned.

haha you are classic LE - shoot down adore me based on her 800m split and use a WA example

i think your being unfair to adore me, beaten by TTL in NZ.

as a 3 yr old her only defeat was in the NZ derby where she ran 2nd beating home franco nelson, border control

Norms daughter only managed 4th in WA derby, MB won NZ cup at 4 but only got home in 56.7, kates first won auckland cup last 800 in 57.7, and im sure kyms girl didnt do much until she was a older mare

its a pointless argument, she clearly is in the same realm as those mares based on what she has done to date

I was never going to post here again but I just have to right what I see as an injustice regarding the ADORE ME vs MAINLAND BANNER mass debate.

Sadly MB’s career was cut short by injury but she still rates with the best kiwi mares in my lifetime who are Armalight, Bonnies Chance, Delightful Lady and the Bloss……MB was a freak and was also only beaten once as a 3yo……she is the only 4yo mare to win a NZ Cup where she breezed the last lap and comparing the times from nearly 10 years ago is a joke as they didn’t have these new sulkies then etc……not only that she  is the only 4yo mare to get the rarely achieved  treble of winning the Taylor Mile, Messenger and NZ Cup in the same season……will Adore Me emulate that feat?, time will tell but I doubt it.

I’m not bagging Adore Me as I was the first to spruik her here as her ability was obvious from day one but she is yet to beat the big boys in a group one……to compare her to Mainland Banner or the other four mares I’ve mentioned at this stage is a joke and an insult to them all……potential, raps and hype mean nothing till you actually achieve something noteworthy

I can see why as the forums genius on every code in every country Lets Elope's statement "Adore Me was well and truly entitled to win with the run it had enjoyed, they only got home in 56.7 and 28.2 and it stayed out of the early battle and hadn't done a tap in the run until asked to sprint in the final lap." was one of the funniest things I've seen here......ffs she had to take off at the bell while TTL is getting the perfect cart up to the turn and only just goes under and flogs the rest.....Mainland Banner would have sat three wide the trip and still won though

Iwould 've mentioned blossom lady  who I loved but isnt she outside the 20 year timespan?

and Tailamaide Lombo?

I know, I'm outta my depth here.

Fark me for a supposed superstar it could not have possibly had a softer run.

Massively overrated at this stage and to even mention it in the same breath is an absolute insult to Blossom.

You could quite logically argue she's one of the greatest fillies of the last 20 years but you certainly can't argue based upon her performances in open company to date that she's anything but a really nice mare, that may well change but it certainly hasn't to date. It was hardly a vintage auckland cup she burst well clear and then turned it up under pressure, it took a good performance from TTL to do so but it went right on by. I didnt have a bet so I'm not talking through my pocket either, for crying loud vansumic won the ladyship mile and its nothing special by any stretch of the imagination.

As for AD renowned superior judgment and assessment how did that great 'stayer' cb fare??? Can't say the race wasn't run to suit with the pressure on throughout, tracked terror to love into the race and was under pressure coming to the corner after not having done a tap in the run.

At least victorious was up on the speed trying to go with the hot tempo early and was still going to run in the top four or five after doing some work in the run which was more than what could be said for CB.

I also said it was probably a year too early for Victorious (conveniently omitted by him)and that it wouldn't surprise me if beautide bolted in(also conveniently omitted.

Franco Nelson was slightly disappointing at his next start when btn in stunning fashion by Seel N Print ( not a lot wrong with that form I would have thought) and extremely disappointing in the chariots when he was clearly over the top, he was probably not quite ready for that inters level as a 4yo and the huge run in his inters heat probably knocked the stuffing out of him as well. Also if he had gained a start I would have still been happy to be having a small bet on him at the big odds that he would have been in the final.

Lloydy would kill me for accidentally leaving blacks a fake out of of that elite group obviously you throw him into the mix as well

Adore me beat Franco Nelson in the derby

She was just beaten by TTL, next you'll be saying TTL is no good because he hasn't won the M4 at glouster park

And f*** off everyone saying menangle would suit this horse and that horse! it's like saying they'll get better next preparation - they all do!

Exceptionally Smooth

Still cant remember Chris Gleesons Mare
Wonder if he still has that Property he used to train at? would be worth 100 mill now.