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TheElephant
22 Nov 13 06:42
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Anyone who pays for that rubbish............... give yourself an uppercut.

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By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 06:47
Please explain.... Mischief

myth
noun

1.a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining a natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

2.a widely held but false belief or idea.
By:
TheElephant
When: 22 Nov 13 06:50
I'm sure you can work it out spoon man
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 06:54
Nope. Isn't he a Punters Show tipster? Does he not exist? Is it really MondayMike with Nom de plume? Cry
By:
TheElephant
When: 22 Nov 13 07:00
More like Jim 28.8 fitness %
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 07:02
Well if you're not able to explain Mischief....what about Melb Punter, how's he goin?
By:
TheElephant
When: 22 Nov 13 07:06
Seems like a nice bloke but apparently didn't have much luck selling his tips
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 07:08
Sad Oh well.

What's with this "myth" business then?
By:
TheElephant
When: 22 Nov 13 07:11
ffs are you a chinaman
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 07:12
are you a ghostbuster?
By:
TheElephant
When: 22 Nov 13 07:13
no a mythbuster
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 07:17
and typically involving supernatural beings Mischief

on the TV they usually do experiments and stuff to bust them....what have you done?
By:
TheElephant
When: 22 Nov 13 07:20
forget it you would need to know form to form your own opinion on the bloke
see ya going out for dinner
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 22 Nov 13 07:22
Fair enough. Crazy

Try the invisible rissoles, they're no calorie!
By:
spyvspy27
When: 22 Nov 13 14:14
Elephant, are you a racenet supporter? As you have potted Pollett and Accardi
By:
VeryLTU
When: 23 Nov 13 00:13
i remember a v Accardi tipping column alongside the other "experts" columns in the harold. Lasted about three weeks with a single short odds on winner saluting !!! Perhaps they could give Saint James a run ?? Laugh
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 23 Nov 13 00:43
Good to see ure still kickin, Very. Happy

Well I don't know how any of them go  but after a few watches lately, I have a confession.......

I have a man-crush on.................Glen Pollett Blush

Laugh
By:
spyvspy27
When: 23 Nov 13 01:14
So he has to choose between you and TQ, thats a toughie Laugh
By:
TheElephant
When: 23 Nov 13 21:34
I do use racenet form guides that's about it
By:
TheElephant
When: 23 Nov 13 21:36
Spy the thread was intending to get a bite from you after i heard you were a supporter of the VA stuff?  Laugh
By:
Thebas
When: 23 Nov 13 21:56
i watched a VA video a year or so back ... and as i remember he used to use the race replays to firstly time races and secondly record sectionals for each horse

doing this he says he proved to himself that the race times announced by the race clubs were often innacurate (for whatever that is worth)

in regards to sectional times .. in australia ... they won't mean THAT much unless you also take into account the pace of the race (having been run and the race your horse is entered in in the future) ... as often it the jocks not the horses that are the important factor at the finish based on who was allowed to what and where during the early/middle stages of a race imo

unlike american racing ... where sectionals are far more important ... as they pretty much go lickety-split right from the jump over there ... with the winner often being the one that 'compounds the least' at the end of the races

so i note with interest ... from what i understand is the gist of this thread ... that VA is having as much difficulty predicting winners in australia (based on a horse's previous sectional times) as other punters using available form and personal observations

outside of group and listed racing in Oz it is quite difficult to predict who gets the 'run of the race' regardless of which horses have an advantage over the distance with the weight and with the fitness on their side ... so if you can predict race positioning better than average then your chances of profitability would be higher i guess

i always remember up here in qld the sectional guru Phil Purcer saying one day (years ago) that Phelan Ready as a 2yo produced one of the fastest sectionals he had seen ... but by Magic Millions day and at 50/1 he had not backed the horse when it won

personally i loved times & sectionals ... but since the big boys started working with the jocks about 20 years ago and taught them how to count past 10 ... that type of race assessment is as tricky as the rest of the plans

punting is ... as always .. a tough endeavour ... know your horse from video assessment and work to get it up at odds on another day ... which is sometimes far away lol

interesting thread
By:
wombleoz
When: 23 Nov 13 23:24
i consider times to be the most important, but not only, factor in racing - the fastest horse will win the race often enough to make a profit imo

good on VA for going the extra yard - not that I'd pay for what he does, near enough can be good enough
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 00:05
TheElephant • November 23, 2013 9:36 PM GMT
Spy the thread was intending to get a bite from you after i heard you were a supporter of the VA stuff?  Laugh

I'm not sure where you heard that from Elephant, I have never purchased a single product from the punters show or any other provider, so I apologise as I won't be biting. I am honoured though that you hold me in such high regard LaughLaugh
By:
earlycrow
When: 24 Nov 13 00:10
You get them all for free ffs
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 00:15
LaughLaughLaugh

All I got for free was the MYM for about 1 month as they asked me to have a look at it and post up my honest opinion on it, which I did.
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 00:17
The only thing I would pay for is Crowformgoldpremium.com.au but the owner is a real coont and won't sell it to me Laugh
By:
earlycrow
When: 24 Nov 13 00:30
I won't sell it to you because I'm worried you'll give your honest opinion ffs
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 00:32
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
TheElephant
When: 24 Nov 13 00:57
So you don't use the reviews or maps?
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 01:18
Definitely not
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 01:19
What would make you think I did?
By:
TheElephant
When: 24 Nov 13 01:27
watching TPS on fri aft ML says something like he and a certain judge will be waiting for the reviews to come through that are late
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 01:30
He gave you an inch and you took a mile ffs Laugh
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 01:32
Was it on punters show or preview show for Kenso?
By:
TheElephant
When: 24 Nov 13 01:33
Preview
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 01:34
part 1?
By:
TheElephant
When: 24 Nov 13 01:34
can't remember
By:
spyvspy27
When: 24 Nov 13 01:34
ffs
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 24 Nov 13 03:00
At least we finally got to what the "point" of the thread was Crazy
By:
wombleoz
When: 24 Nov 13 03:13
i think it was part 1
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