not good

and today's installment - I'm guessing this is linked in some way to it all as well

Corinna Slade ‏@CorinnaSladey 26m

“@RossAndJohn: “@ER_Imagery: #CFA crews working on carfare after reports of explosion at Connewarre @3AW693 pic.twitter.com/VSVeRZ6AvD”

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/man-injured-in-attack-on-connewarre-property-linked-to-racing-identity-bill-vlahos-20131209-2z080.html

looks ugly

almost as ugly as the reporter asking a seemingly unaccompanied minor for her account.

Talk today that the $194 million is just the beginning, could be $500 million

the world is full of gullible people...........
the old saying rings true if it looks too good to be true........................
Bernie Madoff.....
BC3.......
Storm Financial.........these were actually getting amazing returns until 08 crash.....signed up for loans knowing FULL WELL THE IMPLICATIONS then cried foul when it sent them broke
and countless others

no sympathy whatsoever, these guys should never have got off the ground floor but the old chestnut came up.....GREED

the bells should have started ringing when that bloodstock firm started paying millions at the sales.........the only people who can do that are governments (dubai)and billionaires. where was the money coming from? we all know now.
a mathematical formula for picking winners.........developed when idle living next to randwick..........and the guy was a multimillionaire from doing so...........the racing story of the 21st century so far. its got to be. people are so dumb its unreal.

Zero Sympathy for investors.
Stupidity does, and should always get it's just reward.

yep, called it "horse and jockey". it's still going i think. Some poor souls i knew years ago subscribed and said they had plenty of good priced winners..... but i only ever noticed some odds on favourites they told me about..... finishing tailed off

He would have been a CrowForm man IMO

Rule doesn't mention the former AFL player's name but i can think of one who fits the description plus has a well known interest in racing.



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/police-have-task-of-unravelling-puzzling-tale-of-bill-vlahos-and-his-punting-club/story-fni0ffyu-1226780160052

DETECTIVES must have an open mind at all times. So those investigating the mysterious alleged bashing of Bill Vlahos - and torching of his car - have to eliminate the possibility he deliberately injured himself and burned his own vehicle.

This does not mean the man in the middle of the collapsed betting system he called "The Edge" would dream of doing such a thing. But police must still carry out "routine inquiries".

And, so far, the investigation has raised more questions than answers.

Trusted employees of BC3 Thoroughbreds who rushed to the Connewarre property on Sunday night have told detectives the yellow jerry can of diesel found near the smouldering utility came from a shed on the property. One large plastic container might look like another, but this one had a distinctive handwritten label on it.

This has led puzzled police to conclude that if intruders attacked Mr Vlahos (as he claims) then they apparently first searched the property for fuel rather than bringing it with them.

While forensics experts check who handled the container, investigators are pondering other inconsistencies.

A neighbour who found the agitated Mr Vlahos on the ground near the property's front gate recalls him saying "three men" had attacked him. But another neighbour recalls him saying "two men".

In one version, Mr Vlahos allegedly said the attackers were "Lebanese", but another witness thought he said "Yugoslavs".

Witnesses are, of course, reliably unreliable.

There are other problems for those trying to find the truth behind this scandal. :Investors" are embarrassed, shattered and angry.

A source close to BC3 Thoroughbreds - the bloodstock and racing arm of the Vlahos enterprises - has told people that "all the paperwork" for the punting club happened to be in the car when it burned. This is terrible luck for someone who has already mislaid, supposedly, $194 million of other people's money.

The same source says it was incredibly unlucky that Mr Vlahos visited the Connewarre property on Sunday night - as he hadn't been there for months, and had not told anyone he was coming. It was a 100-1 shot that intruders would fluke catching him there.

It all means a policeman's lot is not a happy one. Especially, in this case, for those who have invested their own savings in the scheme.

One veteran policeman admitted yesterday he cashed in his long service leave to "invest"and he knows several others who have put in large sums - including one who says he's owed more than $500,000. The policeman resents that he was persuaded against his own better judgment.

But his problems pale against those of a former AFL player and man-about-town, who not only invested his own money in the scheme but spruiked its benefits to others.

The former player has gone into hiding. A bad day turned much worse on Monday morning when two large, menacing men walked into his city office.

They stayed just long enough to deliver an ultimatum and a threat. When they left, he was so frightened he could hardly speak. It seems the men blamed him for certain people losing large amounts.

A colleague told him to go straight home and pick up his wife and flee, because some very ugly bikers are out to mess up his face.

very very messy - lots more to come out on this one

where did the members think he was backing the horses?

bookies.........no chance........they dont think bets that big
betfair............log in and see the turnover, it cant be
the tote........maybe but its a guaranteed profit making organisation..........he cant be that clever

no sympathy for these people

when they saw the agency pay 5m for a baby horse they should have started to wonder...........when i saw this guy being interviewed at the sales, first thing i said was "where did he get the money to spend 5M on a baby horse"

A secret meeting of punters in Richmond tonight according to the Herald Sun.

'A 300-GAME player' is the description used for the football player involved, presume they mean they played over 300 games, if it was exactly 300 than that would narrow the field down considerably.

That's more likely

List of VFL/AFL players to have played 300 games

This is a list of players who have played 300 games or more in the Australian Football League (AFL), previously known as the Victorian Football League (VFL). This list includes only senior home-and-away matches and finals. It does not count representative games such as State of Origin or International Rules, nor does it include pre-season/night series games. The AFL is the successor to the VFL, explaining the overwhelming representation of Victorian clubs. This list of players is often colloquially referred to as the 300 Club.

Games    Player    Club (games at club)    Career span
426    Michael Tuck    Hawthorn (426)    1972–1991
403    Kevin Bartlett    Richmond (403)    1965–1983
383    Robert Harvey    St. Kilda (383)    1988–2008
378*    Dustin Fletcher    Essendon (378*)    1993–
378    Simon Madden    Essendon (378)    1974–1992
375    Craig Bradley    Carlton (375)    1986–2002
366    Bernie Quinlan    Footscray (177)
Fitzroy (189)    1969–1986
364    Brad Johnson    Western Bulldogs (364)    1994–2010
362*    Brent Harvey    North Melbourne (362*)    1995–
359    John Blakey    Fitzroy (135)
North Melbourne (224)    1985–2002
356    Bruce Doull    Carlton (356)    1969–1986
356    Paul Roos    Fitzroy (269)
Sydney Swans (87)    1982–1998
350    Doug Hawkins    Footscray (329)
Fitzroy (21)    1978–1995
341    Chris Grant    Western Bulldogs (341)    1990–2007
340    Andrew McLeod    Adelaide (340)    1995–2010
336    John Rantall    South Melbourne (260)
North Melbourne (70)
Fitzroy (6)    1963–1980
333    David Cloke    Richmond (219)
Collingwood (114)    1974–1991
333    Kevin Murray    Fitzroy (333)    1955–1974
332    Justin Madden    Essendon (45)
Carlton (287)    1980–1996
332    Leigh Matthews    Hawthorn (332)    1969–1985
331*    Adam Goodes    Sydney Swans (331*)    1999–
329    Gary Dempsey    Footscray (207)
North Melbourne (122)    1967–1984
328    John Nicholls    Carlton (328)    1957–1974
328    Barry Round    Footscray (135)
South Melbourne (193)    1969–1985
325    Jude Bolton    Sydney Swans (325)    1999–2013
325    Jason Akermanis    Brisbane Bears (38)
Brisbane Lions (210)
Western Bulldogs (77)    1995–2010
325    Ian Nankervis    Geelong (325)    1967–1983
324    Scott West    Western Bulldogs (324)    1993–2008
324    Paul Salmon    Essendon (224)
Hawthorn (100)    1983–2002
323    Nathan Burke    St. Kilda (323)    1987–2003
322    Simon Black    Brisbane Lions (322)    1998–2013
321    Tyson Edwards    Adelaide (321)    1995–2010
321    Stewart Loewe    St. Kilda (321)    1986–2002
321    Ted Whitten    Footscray (321)    1951–1970
320    Dick Reynolds    Essendon (320)    1933–1951
318    Marcus Ashcroft    Brisbane Bears (152)
Brisbane Lions (166)    1989–2003
313    Terry Daniher    South Melbourne (19)
Essendon (294)    1976–1992
313    Roger Merrett    Essendon (149)
Brisbane Bears (164)    1978–1996
313    Tony Shaw    Collingwood (313)    1977–1994
312    Jack Dyer    Richmond (312)    1931–1949
312    Stephen Silvagni    Carlton (312)    1985–2001
312    Mark Ricciuto    Adelaide (312)    1993–2007
311    Ben Hart    Adelaide (311)    1992–2006
311    Glenn Archer    North Melbourne (311)    1992–2007
307    Tim Watson    Essendon (307)    1977–1994
306    David Neitz    Melbourne (306)    1993–2008
306    Gordon Coventry    Collingwood (306)    1920–1937
306    Alastair Lynch    Fitzroy (120)
Brisbane Bears (32)
Brisbane Lions (154)    1988–2004
306    Wayne Schimmelbusch    North Melbourne (306)    1973–1987
306    Paul Williams    Collingwood (189)
Sydney Swans (117)    1991–2006
306    Adam Simpson    North Melbourne (306)    1995–2009
305    Shane Crawford    Hawthorn (305)    1993–2008
304    Russell Greene    St. Kilda (120)
Hawthorn (184)    1974–1988
303    Michael O'Loughlin    Sydney Swans (303)    1995–2009
303    Chris Langford    Hawthorn (303)    1983–1997
302    Don Scott    Hawthorn (302)    1967–1981
302    Luke Power    Greater Western Sydney (20)
Brisbane Lions (282)    1998-2012
301    Shannon Grant    Sydney Swans (58)
North Melbourne (243)    1995–2008
301    Len Thompson    Collingwood (268)
South Melbourne (20)
Fitzroy (13)    1965–1980
300    Francis Bourke    Richmond (300)    1967–1981
300    Barry Breen    St Kilda (300)    1965–1982
300    Garry Foulds    Essendon (300)    1974–1989
300    Mick Martyn    North Melbourne (287)
Carlton (13)    1988–2003
300    Kelvin Moore    Hawthorn (300)    1970–1984
300    John 'Sam' Newman    Geelong (300)    1964–1980
300    Rohan Smith    Western Bulldogs (300)    1992–2006
300    Gavin Wanganeen    Essendon (127)
Port Adelaide (173)    1991–2006
Bold = Still active and currently playing. Games will follow until the retirement of the player.
Statistics updated as of the end of the 2013 season.
AFL Life Membership[edit]

AFL Life Membership is extended to players who have played 300 senior games overall with the league, including pre-season games, state representative games, and International rules games counted. Coaches and umpires are also extended AFL Life Membership for involvement in 300 or more games.

amazing stuff..... no doubt channel 9 has someone making up... er..working on a script right now. i must admit, being an avondale heights fan, i straight away checked how many games matthew lloyd played .. just under 300.. phew !! speculation in cas yesterday was "simon the pieman" and michael roach but neither played 300. v. interesting stuff.

.... that'd be right, fancy the harold making up some carp about a 300 game player.

hmmmm.... lets see, loggy appreciates yellow and black from memory... ergot i;m tipping nicholls or the headband. big john the only employee who couldn't make a simple rort an easy task

Sam Newman may be the obvious pick that somebody may say that.  IMO though Shannon Grant?

Not shagger or sammy