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Afternoon all from www.puntersshow.com.au and we love launching a new product and we have a ripper starting this week for Melbourne.


Expert punter and bookmaker Leigh Dalton kicks off what will be a weekly thorough analysis of the Melbourne Saturday meeting.

Leigh has been a fixture in the Melbourne betting ring for many years and has built a record as a highly successful punter and form judge.

We have been working with him for some time to develop a set that we are extremely confident will be a winning one and are thrilled to launch this week.

“We have had some fantastic success with most of our products, the most recent one being the phenomenal returns of John McLeod in Brisbane,” Dallas Baker said.

“The format of Leigh’s set is very similar to John’s with a comment for each runner, a breakdown of each race and, most importantly, a staking plan expressed in units.

“I have no doubt Leigh will return a winning set overall and be a very welcome edition to the Punters Show suite of products; give him a go, it will be well worth it!!”

Leigh’s Melbourne set kicks off just as the carnival action springs right into gear with the Memsie Stakes at Caulfield and he is very confident of a winning start.

“Yes, Caulfield does look very good on Saturday, I’m really looking forward to it and think we will starting on the right leg,” he said.

“On my first run through the form, there do look some seriously good things we will be launching right into and some other runners at very good value we will be on as well.

“As Dallas said, the format is similar to John’s in Brisbane and like John, we will also not be afraid to let races go; at the end of the day it is about winning and we will play each race on its merits and in doing so, I’m sure we will end up in front.”

If you would like an example of Leigh’s set, please head to the site www.puntersshow.com.au and the last two weeks he supplied for private clients are contained in the article about the new product.

Leigh's set for Saturday set can be pre-purchased now for just $55; you will be sent automatically an email download link that will take you to his sheet when it comes online Saturday morning.
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Report Joel August 30, 2013 2:53 AM BST
I am a man of the people Dane, if I were to charge that it would be per day, not per tip....so if there were multiple cups on the one day punters would get good value.
Report Live_in_Hope August 30, 2013 3:22 AM BST
both of you should reveal your real names and a contact phone number -if you are to back up your claims with credence
Report Danehill123. August 30, 2013 3:29 AM BST
The only reason I'd reveal my phone number, LIH, is to give people and address to send the cheque.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 30, 2013 3:38 AM BST
Least you can do is put a free "sample" up on the Memsie Takes Day thread, Dane. Cool
Report Live_in_Hope August 30, 2013 3:46 AM BST
my point was - MP is now out in the open.
His reputation will live or die according to the success or failure of his tipping.
Pretty brave of him i reckon
Report Danehill123. August 30, 2013 3:58 AM BST
My thoughts are often open to the public.

Ahh yeah, brave I suppose, plenty of people out there putting their tips up for free by the same token.

At least he gets to cuddle up to a few bucks at night for the trouble.
Report Danehill123. August 30, 2013 3:58 AM BST
My thoughts are often open to the public.

Ahh yeah, brave I suppose, plenty of people out there putting their tips up for free by the same token.

At least he gets to cuddle up to a few bucks at night for the trouble.
Report spyvspy27 August 30, 2013 6:23 AM BST
1 thing you know, M_P will work harder than he has in a long time to get set as perfect as he can.
The downside to putting out a set every meeting, is some cards look just too hard where you might be lucky to have one bet, but you have to put out a full set, and you can't really put out a set and say I don't like the card at all, as subscribers will think it was a waste of subscription.

GL M_P
Report nickw August 30, 2013 6:50 AM BST
Best Of Luck Mp
Report Danehill123. August 30, 2013 7:04 AM BST
BTW - in all my commentary, I do wish you the best of luck MP.
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 12:11 PM BST
Punters Show = Unwatchable. Imo. Get FCKKED!!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:13 PM BST
I watched it. Blush

I must say I kinda liked the antics of GP.

He's like a naughty 8yo wog kid.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:14 PM BST
Anyone privy to how MP went on his first day?
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 12:19 PM BST
It's unbearable. Three Houso's sitting in a park in Erskineville dribbling on and sometimes thinking they're funny. Life's too short.
Report CHANTECLARE August 31, 2013 12:24 PM BST
I've got 10 lengths on all those c&nts.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:25 PM BST
Laugh harsh.

The middle bloke said he'd had his worst day EVER at the races on the Friday? (in context of how many days he's been on the

punt....THAT"S PRETTY SERIOUS Cry we've all been there.)  He seemed shellshocked still. Shoulda called in sick.

The bald bloke reminded me of the shamwow dude but I spose someone's gotta spruik? Mischief

and then there was GP with A.D.D. Silly
Report bigted. August 31, 2013 12:27 PM BST
Lambourne is the best of those houso's

IMO
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:28 PM BST
Wish someone had tipped us the winner of the last, Chante Mischief. Coulda had the tri Silly

Our "Horse To Watch" filled the holes.
Report CHANTECLARE August 31, 2013 12:29 PM BST
Only joshin. I like the show.
ML seems a fair judge. Tough day at rosey today.
Dallas talks TOO LOUD.
GP is a fkn crack up.
Report CHANTECLARE August 31, 2013 12:32 PM BST
To right Tins.
I thought my preview of r5 was quite good too.Blush
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:33 PM BST
Dallas talks TOO LOUD

Was goin to mention that, Thought he may also be closest to the microphone?
Report CHANTECLARE August 31, 2013 12:34 PM BST
maybe he should move it just a mile or so to the left.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:35 PM BST
Just checked. WD Happy

Good racing threads the last few days. Hope they continue.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:36 PM BST
Paid 600 the tri Sad

Was the winner fancied? Laugh
Report CHANTECLARE August 31, 2013 12:37 PM BST
THanks. Gee AJ made the hair stand up.
Exciting spring ahead.
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 12:37 PM BST
They look like they've just finished the business in the public toilet and come out to chat about racing as if to say 'nothing to see here. No gay stuff going on. We're just  talking thoroughbreds.'
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 12:39 PM BST
R1-3-4-6&8 and 1st 4 in R8
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:42 PM BST
They look like they've just finished the business in the public toilet and come out to chat about racing as if to say 'nothing to see here. No gay stuff going on. We're just  talking thoroughbreds.'

Laugh
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:47 PM BST
Tx, Spy.

1st 4 in R8 good on him, $2300!

That wasn't that hard.Laugh If you could find the winner.

Chante and I were lamenting that fact. Silly

Does he pick 4 in each race?
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 12:50 PM BST
No
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:52 PM BST
Did he leave races alone?
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 12:54 PM BST
Don't know
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:54 PM BST
Good luck to him anyway, It's a tough gig....imo.
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 12:56 PM BST
One of them has a crush on Teen Queen.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 12:58 PM BST
I heard her name mentioned. hmmmmm.

Which one?

and which one was LexyLonglegs?
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 1:02 PM BST
I just think GP has empathy for her
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 1:10 PM BST
I love the four horse per race tipsters. If the 4th pick wins they spruik it. OK so I'm meant to bet all four horses? So four horses,$100 each,eight races that's $3200. So they get a quinella up and they spruik it. OK so I've got to take quinellas too. Four horses a race,quinellas,eight races that's another (insert figure here I can't be bothered working it out). If they get a trifecta they spruik that too so now you've got to take trifectas on every race. It's never ending. Before you know it they get bugger all up and you're down millions.
Report Joel August 31, 2013 1:14 PM BST
Sometimes they box the first 4 too.
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 1:17 PM BST
Nothing gets past you Joel.
Report Joel August 31, 2013 1:19 PM BST
Thanks pal
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 1:21 PM BST
Quaddie, 4x4x4x4, not to mention the big6 Laugh
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:22 PM BST
I love the four horse per race tipsters. If the 4th pick wins they spruik it. OK so I'm meant to bet all four horses? So four horses,$100 each,eight races that's $3200. So they get a quinella up and they spruik it. OK so I've got to take quinellas too. Four horses a race,quinellas,eight races that's another (insert figure here I can't be bothered working it out). If they get a trifecta they spruik that too so now you've got to take trifectas on every race. It's never ending. Before you know it they get bugger all up and you're down millions. Laugh

I too wonder about parameters. I haven't yet had anyone assist me with my lack of understanding re "buying" tips.

I do get it at Carnival times when the clueless in suits want some of RW's, etc in a text just to fill their vacuum.

I have wondered if First-4, Trifecta specialist punters? may be suitable candidates ..... I'm clutching though Sad
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 1:24 PM BST
GP and TQ sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:25 PM BST
Silly

Joel and Letsy in a truck

pants down ready for a
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 1:27 PM BST
LOL!

'Call the Police there's a madman around!
Report gardenstar August 31, 2013 1:31 PM BST
Whatever happened to that Garry ?? bloke that tipped on Melb and Qld racing ???
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 1:32 PM BST
Didn't measure up so was shown the door by the show
Report gardenstar August 31, 2013 1:33 PM BST
If that was the case Pollett should've been long gone
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 1:33 PM BST
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOLD!!!!!!!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:35 PM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-N5PPPZnKE
Report spyvspy27 August 31, 2013 1:37 PM BST
Think he is a shareholder
Report gardenstar August 31, 2013 1:37 PM BST
2 blokes down on their luck and money run into a bald self confident spruiker.. result.. The Punters Show
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:38 PM BST
An educated guess in how many subscribers GP might have ?
Report Joel August 31, 2013 1:39 PM BST
1
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:40 PM BST
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That means, not you DA.




Garden Mischief Who says they're down on their luck?
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:41 PM BST
or you, Joel !
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:41 PM BST
Is it true Mark Guest sells his tips?
Report gardenstar August 31, 2013 1:42 PM BST
Yep, Two blokes down on ability
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:44 PM BST
Two blokes down on ability

You think that BECAUSE they sell tips? or because.....?
Report doubleagent August 31, 2013 1:45 PM BST
Gardenstar steals the show....GOLD!!!
Report gardenstar August 31, 2013 1:52 PM BST
If you're punting well and winning well why would you be bothered giving your hard work away for a measly few bucks? If your struggling to make money on the punt why not throw out a set of tips if there are mugs who'll pay for them. When you continue to provide losing sets surely your conscience or the mugs bank balance should mean a termination of the product
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON August 31, 2013 1:59 PM BST
Well that's possibly the way I see it too but they seem to have "supporters" on here.......... and an audience?

As previously stated I do think MYM is a different animal. (obviously I do Blush)
Report Melbourne_Punter September 1, 2013 3:02 AM BST
Hi all! Figured I may of got a run on here after yesterday- appreciate the kind words and genuine shock at the lack of baggers don't think one person called me a **** or a pr1ck........ my how things have changed around here!!!

To try and answer most questions I have seen- no not 4 tips per race there is staking plan which will generally be a main bet and possibly a saver, some races I will sit out but there is still an overview of the races and individual comments on each horse so not like you get 0 for the race.

Why do it? Cash is king boys given I am doing the work for my own purposes anyway it is some extra work to produce the worksheet that subscribers receive there will be an example up on the site of yeserdays set most likely tomorrow. I can't see it affecting my ability to get on believe it or not I'm not trying to back horses to win $40k-$50k I'm happy just to be getting on for my little bit and most if it means more people backing winners I am happy I'm not greedy, many will recall me posting what I was doing punt/lay wise on here for a number of years I have never been protective of my opinion.

Finally there is a little EGO involved (its not a dirty word) I pick up the paper and see them calling 'experts' or watching them on TV now I feel for the public who are listening to these people thinking what they say is gospel! I know I can provide to the average bloke who wants to have a bet on a Saturday a better service than they are currently getting or provide a 2nd opinion to the good judges if they want to compare, so yes I have a point to prove you gotta remember I had myself pegged as very good when I was a 20 year old kid posting on here always backed myself in, no different now I believe in myself.

Not going to win every week take out Z man no one can do that, but I will tell you all that there is plenty of work going into what I am doing for The Punters Show and it is the A set.

Other than that I hope everyone is well good to see some old faces (well screen names) in this thread I do still flick through from time to time to see what everyone is doing.

Cheers MP
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 1, 2013 3:09 AM BST
For posting...

Respect. Cool

Helps me get my head around the whole concept... a little. Plain

Happy with your debut?
Report Melbourne_Punter September 1, 2013 3:29 AM BST
I gave myself a pass mark, Dallas was talking more a credit or distinction but think I can improve!
Report jfc September 1, 2013 5:59 AM BST
Not going to win every week take out Z man no one can do that, but I will tell you all that there is plenty of work going into what I am doing for The Punters Show and it is the A set.


Why are all you regulars letting such rubbish go unchallenged!

Anyone who bothered to read the comprehensive AFR material on Zeljko should be able to discern how he really makes his money.

And no one in their right mind would try to emulate that.
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 7:02 AM BST
Melbourne_Punter • September 1, 2013 3:29 AM BST
I gave myself a pass mark, Dallas was talking more a credit or distinction but think I can improve!


Dallas talking something up? Nah can't believe that Laugh

In all fairness to Dallas, he has products to sell, so he is doing what any good salesman does, he sells

jfc, the letter Z has powerful magnetic properties when it comes to attracting you Laugh

Rebate givers are as much to blame as Z is for taking them imo
Report jfc September 1, 2013 7:40 AM BST
Do the kickback givers deserve blame?

Elementary!

If Casinos want to sacrifice their edge in a Player versus Bank scenario then it's no skin off my nose.

But this caper is a Player versus Player scenario, where any back room deal choreographed by Zeljko will add a further tax on the rest of us.

Bob Hawke was in the thick of it in the VITAB fraud - well documented in Hansard and academic studies - where Zeljko was the key beneficiary.

Then John Howard, when Prime Minister actually endorsed kickbacks.

Because in his sheltered life the subtleties of who the Player was actually versusing eluded him.

Anyone who has to resort to summoning Zeljko's name to promote their product deserves to be held in the same scepticism and contempt as I have for Pollett.
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 7:49 AM BST
jfc • September 1, 2013 7:40 AM BST
Do the kickback givers deserve blame?

Elementary!

If Casinos want to sacrifice their edge in a Player versus Bank scenario then it's no skin off my nose. Agree

But this caper is a Player versus Player scenario, where any back room deal choreographed by Zeljko will add a further tax on the rest of us. Hence why I say the givers are as much to blame
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 7:50 AM BST
Care to share why you have contempt for Pollett?
Report jfc September 1, 2013 7:56 AM BST
Well then blame them, rather than try to start an argument with me, when I actually concur.

I urge anyone not familiar with the VITAB fraud to look it up, and find out about the bewildering stunts by the TABs which seem destined to destroy the whole caper.
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 7:59 AM BST
I am not trying to start an argument with you jfc, apologies if it seems that way
Report jfc September 1, 2013 8:07 AM BST
For those who not aware, as I understand it Pollett had $50 on Pablo's Pulse with Peter Todd at 1000/1. Circa 1987.

Whereupon this propelled him into a stellar bookmaking career.

Which fizzled big time pronto.

Now I've made more than my share of mistakes in this caper.

But I've tried to learn from them, and try to remind myself every time I overstretch.

Not so Glenn.

Rather than trying to come to grips with essentials like the Kelly Criterion, where he would be helped immensely, he instead gets more obnoxious, particularly in failing to acknowledge those who have actually cracked this caper.
Report Live_in_Hope September 1, 2013 8:09 AM BST
thank Christ that's all it is - thought it may have been something more personal
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 8:15 AM BST
Was that his bet on Pablo's?
Report Live_in_Hope September 1, 2013 8:24 AM BST
well it sure wasn't f uckin mine Sad
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 8:25 AM BST
You would've only blown it all by now Laugh
Report jfc September 1, 2013 8:26 AM BST
What part of had $50 on PP at 1000/1 needs further elaboration?

Right now I'm uncertain whether that was on the nose or Each-Way.

Many years later I had a brush with Peter Todd at a track toilet or whatever.

Where I alluded to that world record officially recorded at 500/1.

Didn't take him wrong to correct me as to the actual triple digit reality.

Also, I was actually at Warwick Farm that day.

Heard some yahoos being very vocal, but didn't realise what was behinf it.
Report Live_in_Hope September 1, 2013 8:28 AM BST
no doubt!
50K is just as hard to come by these days as it was then I reckon
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 8:29 AM BST
jfc • September 1, 2013 8:26 AM BST
What part of had $50 on PP at 1000/1 needs further elaboration? He may have placed the bet for someone else

Right now I'm uncertain whether that was on the nose or Each-Way. It was a straight out wager

Many years later I had a brush with Peter Todd at a track toilet or whatever.

Where I alluded to that world record officially recorded at 500/1.

Didn't take him wrong to correct me as to the actual triple digit reality.

Also, I was actually at Warwick Farm that day. Likewise

Heard some yahoos being very vocal, but didn't realise what was behinf it.
Report Live_in_Hope September 1, 2013 8:33 AM BST
... and what is a brush in the toilet please?
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 8:36 AM BST
500/1 is still the SP record, and PT would've corrected you on the quadruple digit reality
Report jfc September 1, 2013 8:38 AM BST
Pollett alluded to that vaguely on the Punters Show once.

Evidently he'd walked the track and detected a bias favouring wide runners.

But whether this was genius on his part, didn't seem to affect those who then took him to the cleaners.
Report jfc September 1, 2013 8:41 AM BST
I didn't say brush in the toilet.

I said brush with Todd.

And maybe I could have better have concluded that with:

at some track amenity.
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 8:45 AM BST
Campaign King was odds on in the race, and another odds on pop earlier in the day got rolled, think it was Pre Catalan on memory, led on rail and got swamped
Report Thebas September 1, 2013 8:52 AM BST
correct re the Warwick Stks Spy ... the 1.30 fave Campaign King didn't run a drum in the race lol

thus .. i think .. all the commotion maybe

... you could yell at jocks at the track in those days ... and advise them of their imperfections  Laugh
Report Thebas September 1, 2013 8:55 AM BST
and hey it was the 80's in sydney lol

i found a list of the beaten jocks in the race

a who's who of the times

K Moses, R Quinton, D Beadman, Mick Dittman and J Marshall on Bart's fave
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 9:01 AM BST
Thebas • September 1, 2013 8:55 AM BST
and hey it was the 80's in sydney lol

i found a list of the beaten jocks in the race

a who's who of the times

K Moses, R Quinton, D Beadman, Mick Dittman and J Marshall on Bart's fave


The 3 in bold seemed to have more than occasional bit of bad luck on a shorty, which coincidentally were laid to excess by a couple of bookies, strange that
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 9:02 AM BST
But as you say, it was the 80s Laugh
Report jfc September 1, 2013 9:10 AM BST
And now we are well into a new millennium.

Where Fletcher and his jockey BFFs might well be carrying on that earlier tradition.
Report CHANTECLARE September 1, 2013 9:12 AM BST
Report Thebas September 1, 2013 9:15 AM BST
... and don't forget the 90's and the jockey tapes affair   Laugh
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 9:19 AM BST
D.O just rode to the speed map Laugh
Report CHANTECLARE September 1, 2013 9:19 AM BST
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 9:20 AM BST
Now you have upset me
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 9:21 AM BST
Corey Brown about to go around in Singapore
Report CHANTECLARE September 1, 2013 9:23 AM BST
LaughLaugh
Report spyvspy27 September 1, 2013 9:24 AM BST
Thats better Laugh
Report Live_in_Hope September 1, 2013 9:26 AM BST
did the pumper just get beat in that pic?
Report earlycrow September 1, 2013 2:54 PM BST
That's gold LIH
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