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Gardenstar steals the show....GOLD!!!
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If you're punting well and winning well why would you be bothered giving your hard work away for a measly few bucks? If your struggling to make money on the punt why not throw out a set of tips if there are mugs who'll pay for them. When you continue to provide losing sets surely your conscience or the mugs bank balance should mean a termination of the product
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Well that's possibly the way I see it too but they seem to have "supporters" on here.......... and an audience?
As previously stated I do think MYM is a different animal. (obviously I do  ) |
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Hi all! Figured I may of got a run on here after yesterday- appreciate the kind words and genuine shock at the lack of baggers don't think one person called me a **** or a pr1ck........ my how things have changed around here!!!
To try and answer most questions I have seen- no not 4 tips per race there is staking plan which will generally be a main bet and possibly a saver, some races I will sit out but there is still an overview of the races and individual comments on each horse so not like you get 0 for the race. Why do it? Cash is king boys given I am doing the work for my own purposes anyway it is some extra work to produce the worksheet that subscribers receive there will be an example up on the site of yeserdays set most likely tomorrow. I can't see it affecting my ability to get on believe it or not I'm not trying to back horses to win $40k-$50k I'm happy just to be getting on for my little bit and most if it means more people backing winners I am happy I'm not greedy, many will recall me posting what I was doing punt/lay wise on here for a number of years I have never been protective of my opinion. Finally there is a little EGO involved (its not a dirty word) I pick up the paper and see them calling 'experts' or watching them on TV now I feel for the public who are listening to these people thinking what they say is gospel! I know I can provide to the average bloke who wants to have a bet on a Saturday a better service than they are currently getting or provide a 2nd opinion to the good judges if they want to compare, so yes I have a point to prove you gotta remember I had myself pegged as very good when I was a 20 year old kid posting on here always backed myself in, no different now I believe in myself. Not going to win every week take out Z man no one can do that, but I will tell you all that there is plenty of work going into what I am doing for The Punters Show and it is the A set. Other than that I hope everyone is well good to see some old faces (well screen names) in this thread I do still flick through from time to time to see what everyone is doing. Cheers MP |
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For posting...
Respect.  Helps me get my head around the whole concept... a little.  Happy with your debut? |
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I gave myself a pass mark, Dallas was talking more a credit or distinction but think I can improve!
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Not going to win every week take out Z man no one can do that, but I will tell you all that there is plenty of work going into what I am doing for The Punters Show and it is the A set.
Why are all you regulars letting such rubbish go unchallenged! Anyone who bothered to read the comprehensive AFR material on Zeljko should be able to discern how he really makes his money. And no one in their right mind would try to emulate that. |
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Melbourne_Punter • September 1, 2013 3:29 AM BST
I gave myself a pass mark, Dallas was talking more a credit or distinction but think I can improve! Dallas talking something up? Nah can't believe that  In all fairness to Dallas, he has products to sell, so he is doing what any good salesman does, he sells jfc, the letter Z has powerful magnetic properties when it comes to attracting you Rebate givers are as much to blame as Z is for taking them imo |
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Do the kickback givers deserve blame?
Elementary! If Casinos want to sacrifice their edge in a Player versus Bank scenario then it's no skin off my nose. But this caper is a Player versus Player scenario, where any back room deal choreographed by Zeljko will add a further tax on the rest of us. Bob Hawke was in the thick of it in the VITAB fraud - well documented in Hansard and academic studies - where Zeljko was the key beneficiary. Then John Howard, when Prime Minister actually endorsed kickbacks. Because in his sheltered life the subtleties of who the Player was actually versusing eluded him. Anyone who has to resort to summoning Zeljko's name to promote their product deserves to be held in the same scepticism and contempt as I have for Pollett. |
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jfc • September 1, 2013 7:40 AM BST
Do the kickback givers deserve blame? Elementary! If Casinos want to sacrifice their edge in a Player versus Bank scenario then it's no skin off my nose. Agree But this caper is a Player versus Player scenario, where any back room deal choreographed by Zeljko will add a further tax on the rest of us. Hence why I say the givers are as much to blame |
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Care to share why you have contempt for Pollett?
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Well then blame them, rather than try to start an argument with me, when I actually concur.
I urge anyone not familiar with the VITAB fraud to look it up, and find out about the bewildering stunts by the TABs which seem destined to destroy the whole caper. |
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I am not trying to start an argument with you jfc, apologies if it seems that way
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For those who not aware, as I understand it Pollett had $50 on Pablo's Pulse with Peter Todd at 1000/1. Circa 1987.
Whereupon this propelled him into a stellar bookmaking career. Which fizzled big time pronto. Now I've made more than my share of mistakes in this caper. But I've tried to learn from them, and try to remind myself every time I overstretch. Not so Glenn. Rather than trying to come to grips with essentials like the Kelly Criterion, where he would be helped immensely, he instead gets more obnoxious, particularly in failing to acknowledge those who have actually cracked this caper. |
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thank Christ that's all it is - thought it may have been something more personal
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Was that his bet on Pablo's?
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well it sure wasn't f uckin mine
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You would've only blown it all by now
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What part of had $50 on PP at 1000/1 needs further elaboration?
Right now I'm uncertain whether that was on the nose or Each-Way. Many years later I had a brush with Peter Todd at a track toilet or whatever. Where I alluded to that world record officially recorded at 500/1. Didn't take him wrong to correct me as to the actual triple digit reality. Also, I was actually at Warwick Farm that day. Heard some yahoos being very vocal, but didn't realise what was behinf it. |
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no doubt!
50K is just as hard to come by these days as it was then I reckon |
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jfc • September 1, 2013 8:26 AM BST
What part of had $50 on PP at 1000/1 needs further elaboration? He may have placed the bet for someone else Right now I'm uncertain whether that was on the nose or Each-Way. It was a straight out wager Many years later I had a brush with Peter Todd at a track toilet or whatever. Where I alluded to that world record officially recorded at 500/1. Didn't take him wrong to correct me as to the actual triple digit reality. Also, I was actually at Warwick Farm that day. Likewise Heard some yahoos being very vocal, but didn't realise what was behinf it. |
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... and what is a brush in the toilet please?
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500/1 is still the SP record, and PT would've corrected you on the quadruple digit reality
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Pollett alluded to that vaguely on the Punters Show once.
Evidently he'd walked the track and detected a bias favouring wide runners. But whether this was genius on his part, didn't seem to affect those who then took him to the cleaners. |
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I didn't say brush in the toilet.
I said brush with Todd. And maybe I could have better have concluded that with: at some track amenity. |
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Campaign King was odds on in the race, and another odds on pop earlier in the day got rolled, think it was Pre Catalan on memory, led on rail and got swamped
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correct re the Warwick Stks Spy ... the 1.30 fave Campaign King didn't run a drum in the race lol
thus .. i think .. all the commotion maybe ... you could yell at jocks at the track in those days ... and advise them of their imperfections |
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and hey it was the 80's in sydney lol
i found a list of the beaten jocks in the race a who's who of the times K Moses, R Quinton, D Beadman, Mick Dittman and J Marshall on Bart's fave |
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Thebas • September 1, 2013 8:55 AM BST
and hey it was the 80's in sydney lol i found a list of the beaten jocks in the race a who's who of the times K Moses, R Quinton, D Beadman, Mick Dittman and J Marshall on Bart's fave The 3 in bold seemed to have more than occasional bit of bad luck on a shorty, which coincidentally were laid to excess by a couple of bookies, strange that |
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But as you say, it was the 80s
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And now we are well into a new millennium.
Where Fletcher and his jockey BFFs might well be carrying on that earlier tradition. |
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... and don't forget the 90's and the jockey tapes affair
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D.O just rode to the speed map
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Now you have upset me
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Corey Brown about to go around in Singapore
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Thats better
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did the pumper just get beat in that pic?
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