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By:
Joel
When: 30 Aug 13 01:21
Gelding?
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 30 Aug 13 01:23
got it  - thanks
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 30 Aug 13 01:25
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By:
spyvspy27
When: 30 Aug 13 01:34
Ps interest is 5% per week
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 30 Aug 13 01:39
ok
i choose the second week in May 2022
By:
spyvspy27
When: 30 Aug 13 01:42
Fair enough
By:
AFL
When: 30 Aug 13 01:54
Quite simply...it is the start of Abbott's pay back to Clubs Australia, for their help.

Just as their FRAUDBAND Plan is the start of the Murdoch Payback.
By:
Thebas
When: 30 Aug 13 02:04
pretty sure gillard walked away from pokie reform also Laugh Laugh

(but i'd have to ask wilkie first  Wink )
By:
AFL
When: 30 Aug 13 02:18
Who's position did Clubs Australia support?

Labor or Liberal?
By:
Thebas
When: 30 Aug 13 02:24
what did wilkie say about gillard ?

the day after Slipper quit the coalition ... and became gillard's 'numbers' man ... and wilkie was no longer needed ... and her 'promised' pokie reform to wilkie dissapeard ... (like last wages in a **** casino Laugh )

with gambling ... i wouldn't trust either party to do anything different other than what is .. self-serving
By:
AFL
When: 30 Aug 13 02:24
It is aimed to assist in tipping more gamblers into the CLUBS and off the Internet.

Win-Win  for Abbott.
By:
AFL
When: 30 Aug 13 02:27
Politics is a numbers game

and she didn't have enough to get the legislation through.

Partly due to the scare campaign from Clubs Australia.
By:
Thebas
When: 30 Aug 13 02:28
i understand what you are saying AFL

but has Rudd's Gambling policy updated Gillard's & Labor's gambling Policy ... or is it still open slather for the Club's

i can't see where Labor's Gambling Policy in relation to Club's & Pokies is any stronger or safer for the problematic amongst us ?
By:
Thebas
When: 30 Aug 13 02:29
[]ididn't have enough to get the legislation through.[/i]

she dropped wilkie's plan the day after Slipper gave her the numbers again   Laugh
By:
Hal
When: 30 Aug 13 02:51
Surely on line gambling in all its forms has to grow, and the numbers going to clubs to play pokies decline.

When the clubs get the point that too many of their problem gamblers are going over to the net then they will ratchet up their considerable lobbying powers to government under the guise of caring for those "poor" people.

Off topic I went to my local club this Wednesday to meet friends for lunch, I was early, so I thought would go to their TAB to have a look. I was advised Mon to Fri the Club TAB does open until 4:00pm.

And this is a very big club.
By:
Hal
When: 30 Aug 13 02:53
* does not open until 4:00pm
By:
Thebas
When: 30 Aug 13 03:05
good point Hal and also AFL and the clubs linkage to political parties

but it would be unwise not to think about probity also in relation to internet gambling casinos and poker tables

nothing about online cash poker tables is safe from two or more players sitting down at the one table and communicating their hands to each other via mobile phone and ip addresses don't cut it as far as security from dishonest practices

2 things ... any money australians deposit online to overseas based tax-exile companies will come back to australia less cents in the dollar

money gambled in australian clubs will be taxed and some returned to the govt and our country

tournament poker would be continued apparently if major changes took place under a new govt .. but not individual player games

any Australian Poker site that has their probity guaranteed & pays their taxes would have a good case for continuation imo

there is a case (not moral but fiscal) that any overseas based tax-exil gambling companies probably should be shut out from any sovereign nations access

i wonder why st vinnies & red cross don't apply for australian based legal gambling licences like Lotto which should be in the hands of service organisations desperately needing funds and not private companies (see the history of lotto from germany and tell me how individuals got licences - sorry robert sangster & family  Sad)

we as ozzies are gonna gamble .. the question is who gets the rake ... and who picks up the pieces of the problem gamblers that 'lose it all' on the chances
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 30 Aug 13 03:37
Wombler

Online poker has no lobby group behind it,

Just you wait. 888Warney will bring himself on from the Southern End, put a few around the bat and ......

Bigears won't last an over Silly
By:
logroller
When: 30 Aug 13 07:29
you guys do realise that there are NO Australian poker sites? or casino sites, or pokie machine/slots sites
By:
Thebas
When: 30 Aug 13 07:44
yeah i think lasseter's offshoot aussie based was the one ... and it closed about 5 years ago

not cause it was illegal but i think the punters broke the bank lol

bout time we had one again maybe ... then its a business paying taxes in oz and might get a lobbyist to champion its existence
By:
wombleoz
When: 31 Aug 13 01:09
Labor's policy is to let people use online poker rooms set up in Australia to play tournament poker - sensible move imo
By:
shiraz
When: 31 Aug 13 01:27
......"online poker rooms set up in Australia to play tournament poker".


My understanding is that there are no Australian based poker sites because of the IGA and that the current government just does'nt actively pursue overseas sites to stop them offering their services to people based in Australia.  Betfair have poker but it cannot be played in Australia because they abide by the laws (based on the fact they would lose their Aus gaming licence).
By:
Lets Elope
When: 31 Aug 13 04:19
aliyana should have gone close last start  with a clear run and a agood chance here for mine if I was having a bet.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 31 Aug 13 04:20
wrong thread sorry
By:
wombleoz
When: 31 Aug 13 23:57
from the same article Shiraz - i'd hope they would stick with this approach

Labor

While Julia Gillard was still Prime Minister, her Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, endorsed a plan to trial legal online poker whilst cracking down on all other forms of online casino gaming (roulette, poker machines, black jack and so forth).

The fact Labor were even willing to make this distinction – most politicians still think ‘pokies’ and ‘poker’ are the same thing – was a huge win for online poker players.

However, with Rudd taking power and Conroy quitting his position as Minister (he was a Gillard supporter), we are at the status quo ante. The work Conroy did on this issue will largely be forgotten. This means the approach to online poker under a future Rudd Labor Government will be the same as it was under the previous Rudd government - we will be able access and play online poker as we do now, but it will still exist in a the legal grey area.
By:
Thebas
When: 01 Sep 13 00:02
'the legal grey area'

Wink

wasn't that the area that julia gillard made her home  Grin

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ps  playing cash on-line poker with a digital algorithm shuffling and dealing and playing against invisible opponents talking to each other on mobile phones via turkanistabulikaaaaaaan is potentially damaging to your bank account

cash tournaments ... beacuse of the timeframe taken to play and the arbitrary moving between tables ... is both a nuisance and safer at the same time

play with your kids folks .. or help out an oldie at a refuge if you have that much time on your hands Wink
By:
PittsburghPhil
When: 01 Sep 13 07:06
Wombleoz

This means the approach to online poker under a future Rudd Labor Government will be the same as it was under the previous Rudd government

Gotta love your optimism, Womble.

The only chance of a "future Rudd Labor Government" would be if he switched to Queensland state politics. He might turn out to be the Labor equivalent of Joh Bjelke-Petersen.
By:
wombleoz
When: 01 Sep 13 14:41
it's not over till it's over Phil Cool

agree re cash games Thebas - that's why they are only looking at tournament poker
By:
pokeron
When: 03 Sep 13 04:08
all i gotta say is i just cashed some money out of pokerstars after coming fourth in a $3 rebuy with 418 runners. thanks for coming.
important to differentiate between pokies and poker.
pokies sucks balls and i fail to see the fascination with it.
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