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A Day At The Races (1937), The Marx Brothers.
National Velvet (1944), Mickey Rooney and Elizabeth Taylor.
The Rocking Horse Winner (1949), Valerie Hobson.
The Sting (1973), Paul Newman and Robert Redford
The Black Stallion (1979), Kelly Reno, Mickey Rooney and Teri Garr
Phar Lap (1983), Tom Burlinson
Champions (1984), John Hurt
Horseplayer (1990), Brad Dourif
Sea Biscuit (2003), Jeff Bridges, Chris Cooper and Tobey Maguire
Secretariat (2010), Diane Lane, John Malkovich, and Margo Martindale
National Velvet (1944), Mickey Rooney and Elizabeth Taylor.
The Rocking Horse Winner (1949), Valerie Hobson.
The Sting (1973), Paul Newman and Robert Redford
The Black Stallion (1979), Kelly Reno, Mickey Rooney and Teri Garr
Phar Lap (1983), Tom Burlinson
Champions (1984), John Hurt
Horseplayer (1990), Brad Dourif
Sea Biscuit (2003), Jeff Bridges, Chris Cooper and Tobey Maguire
Secretariat (2010), Diane Lane, John Malkovich, and Margo Martindale
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Let It Ride, Dreyfuss .. by the 4th viewing all the sweet one liners are covered
Horseplay
(not to be confused with Horseplayer)
quirky Australian comedy about a ring-in and a trainer (bill hunter) who doesn't want his daughter to marry the ring-in architect
i can re-watch it every year, not too bad
(not to be confused with Horseplayer)
quirky Australian comedy about a ring-in and a trainer (bill hunter) who doesn't want his daughter to marry the ring-in architect
i can re-watch it every year, not too bad
Sea Biscuit the best movie (Secretariat the best horse, what a freak!)
Horseplay
(not to be confused with Horseplayer)
that is the lamest attempt at a racing film ive ever seen,marcus graham ffs
clearly they had no script consultation with anyone who'd even been to the track
its so bad its funny
(not to be confused with Horseplayer)
that is the lamest attempt at a racing film ive ever seen,marcus graham ffs
clearly they had no script consultation with anyone who'd even been to the track
its so bad its funny
Kubrick's 1956 film The Killing concerns a raceday heist.
It is unlike any other film I've seen, and near the best ever, for me. Obviously not viewed the same by the box office.
If 2 or 3 ever bring back their Kubrick festivals, I recommend you watch the lot, with particular emphasis on that one.
Particularly for those of you wet behind the ears.
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Could not sit through Secretariat.
Because the PBS documentary had nailed it.
It is unlike any other film I've seen, and near the best ever, for me. Obviously not viewed the same by the box office.
If 2 or 3 ever bring back their Kubrick festivals, I recommend you watch the lot, with particular emphasis on that one.
Particularly for those of you wet behind the ears.
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Could not sit through Secretariat.
Because the PBS documentary had nailed it.
The Lemon Drop Kid (Bob Hope)
A Day At The Races (the Marx Brothers)
A Day At The Races (the Marx Brothers)
Ah, silly me ... the Marx Brothers movie was in the original list
Murphy's Stroke starring Pierce Brosnan and Niall Toibin is a shocking omission imo........true story.
This Week
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1 Episode Available to WatchScannal
A Nearly Perfect Coup - The Gay Future Affair
This is the story of a famous Irish trainer, of an English stockbroker who fancied himself as a trainer, of a businessman from Cork with a suitcase full of money, and of their attempt to pull off the greatest betting coup of all time.
It involved two horses, both chestnut. Not identical, but similar enough - oh, and they never met. And it all happened at a racecourse that looks like a fairground.
A year of painstaking preparation went in to two minutes of frantic effort at Cartmel racecourse, in England, on the August bank holiday weekend of 1974.
A horse called Gay Future carried the hopes of a colourful cast of characters, known affectionately as the 'Cork Mafia,' who had placed bets in betting offices all over London. They chose the busiest race day of the year with 10 race meetings taking place throughout the U.K. They picked Cartmel, a small Cumbrian track with no 'blower' - no connection between the bookies on-course and their colleagues in betting offices throughout the nation. And they pulled it off. Almost.
We talk to Edward O'Grady's former Head Lad, Tim Finn, who wore a wig and sunglasses on that rainy day to disguise himself, and who covered the horse in soap flakes to make it appear unsettled in the parade ring.
My father was coming out of Mass one day and a fella said to him "What do you think of your criminal son?" Poor man
nearly died. He didn't know anything about it!
[TIM FINN]
Ginger and Beryl McCain, responsible for Grand National hero Red Rum's victories, trained the favourite in the race who was beaten by Gay Future.
"I remember when the jockey came past the winning post
he stuck his hand up in the air, and looked like he'd won
a Grand National. Little did we know he more or less had!"
[BERYL McCAIN]
The horse flew home, winning by 10 lengths at odds of 10/1. The Cork Mafia stood to win the equivalent today of around five million pounds. A cartel of bookmakers in the UK smelled a rat and refused to pay out, pending an enquiry. It should have been handled by the Jockey Club, but it ended up in court. Trainer O'Grady and businessman Murphy were arrested in Cheltenham and appeared in Preston Crown Court. Cartmel Racecourse owner, Lord Cavendish, has his own theory about it.
"I think the bookies have always had a control of racing
and I think one of the reasons that isn't always stated is that
some members of the Jockey Club owe them quite a lot of money."
[LORD CAVENDISH]
The judge, Justice Caulfield, was a racing man who ruthlessly cut through the prosecution case. He was struck by the irony of the bookies' objection to the Gay Future team who, they complained, conspired to keep the odds high. He continually interrupted the prosecuting barrister with exchanges such as this:
If you go to Cartmel and place a bet for £1,000, and the price
is 10/1 on the board, you are not expecting the bookie to smile and leave his board at 10/1 ?
[JUSTICE CAULFIELD]
My Lord, he would have his duster out in a flash.
[PROSECUTING BARRISTER]
It would be all over England in seconds, whether it had a blower or not!
[JUSTICE CAULFIELD]
In his summing up, the judge virtually ordered the jury to acquit, but these were difficult times. The IRA bombing campaign was at its height and there was a lot of anti-Irish feeling. Much to Caulfields' annoyance, the jury returned a 'guilty' verdict. The penalty he imposed was minimal.
The legacy of Gay Future remains with us today. People look back fondly on it, and a film, starring Nial Tobin celebrated 'Murphy's Stroke' in the title. Punters at Cartmel were unanimous in their feelings.
"You admired them. Jesus, we all dream about bringing off a
coup. I've been racing all my life and never brought off a coup yet - but that's the dream!"
This Week
Archive
1 Episode Available to WatchScannal
A Nearly Perfect Coup - The Gay Future Affair
This is the story of a famous Irish trainer, of an English stockbroker who fancied himself as a trainer, of a businessman from Cork with a suitcase full of money, and of their attempt to pull off the greatest betting coup of all time.
It involved two horses, both chestnut. Not identical, but similar enough - oh, and they never met. And it all happened at a racecourse that looks like a fairground.
A year of painstaking preparation went in to two minutes of frantic effort at Cartmel racecourse, in England, on the August bank holiday weekend of 1974.
A horse called Gay Future carried the hopes of a colourful cast of characters, known affectionately as the 'Cork Mafia,' who had placed bets in betting offices all over London. They chose the busiest race day of the year with 10 race meetings taking place throughout the U.K. They picked Cartmel, a small Cumbrian track with no 'blower' - no connection between the bookies on-course and their colleagues in betting offices throughout the nation. And they pulled it off. Almost.
We talk to Edward O'Grady's former Head Lad, Tim Finn, who wore a wig and sunglasses on that rainy day to disguise himself, and who covered the horse in soap flakes to make it appear unsettled in the parade ring.
My father was coming out of Mass one day and a fella said to him "What do you think of your criminal son?" Poor man
nearly died. He didn't know anything about it!
[TIM FINN]
Ginger and Beryl McCain, responsible for Grand National hero Red Rum's victories, trained the favourite in the race who was beaten by Gay Future.
"I remember when the jockey came past the winning post
he stuck his hand up in the air, and looked like he'd won
a Grand National. Little did we know he more or less had!"
[BERYL McCAIN]
The horse flew home, winning by 10 lengths at odds of 10/1. The Cork Mafia stood to win the equivalent today of around five million pounds. A cartel of bookmakers in the UK smelled a rat and refused to pay out, pending an enquiry. It should have been handled by the Jockey Club, but it ended up in court. Trainer O'Grady and businessman Murphy were arrested in Cheltenham and appeared in Preston Crown Court. Cartmel Racecourse owner, Lord Cavendish, has his own theory about it.
"I think the bookies have always had a control of racing
and I think one of the reasons that isn't always stated is that
some members of the Jockey Club owe them quite a lot of money."
[LORD CAVENDISH]
The judge, Justice Caulfield, was a racing man who ruthlessly cut through the prosecution case. He was struck by the irony of the bookies' objection to the Gay Future team who, they complained, conspired to keep the odds high. He continually interrupted the prosecuting barrister with exchanges such as this:
If you go to Cartmel and place a bet for £1,000, and the price
is 10/1 on the board, you are not expecting the bookie to smile and leave his board at 10/1 ?
[JUSTICE CAULFIELD]
My Lord, he would have his duster out in a flash.
[PROSECUTING BARRISTER]
It would be all over England in seconds, whether it had a blower or not!
[JUSTICE CAULFIELD]
In his summing up, the judge virtually ordered the jury to acquit, but these were difficult times. The IRA bombing campaign was at its height and there was a lot of anti-Irish feeling. Much to Caulfields' annoyance, the jury returned a 'guilty' verdict. The penalty he imposed was minimal.
The legacy of Gay Future remains with us today. People look back fondly on it, and a film, starring Nial Tobin celebrated 'Murphy's Stroke' in the title. Punters at Cartmel were unanimous in their feelings.
"You admired them. Jesus, we all dream about bringing off a
coup. I've been racing all my life and never brought off a coup yet - but that's the dream!"
Interesting.
I have a vague recollection of a similar Irish sting around 10 years earlier.
Meant little to me then. But nowadays I'd have been forensically analysing the cloaca out of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Future
I have a vague recollection of a similar Irish sting around 10 years earlier.
Meant little to me then. But nowadays I'd have been forensically analysing the cloaca out of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Future
Kubrick's 1956 film The Killing concerns a raceday heist.
It's out on bluray as it happens, worth watching if you havent seen it.
Watched LIR probably 30 times - yes, i have no life
It's out on bluray as it happens, worth watching if you havent seen it.
Watched LIR probably 30 times - yes, i have no life
caught it on TCM Foxtel one arvo ... "She Went To The Races " (1945)
a B Grade flick but I luv 'em, some crazy old maths scientists with a system for picking winners lol
made bearable and absolutely enjoyable by the performances of the 2 gals after the one man
Francis Gifford as cute as a pin (yum), but hold onto your hats when a 20 something Ava Gardner mezmerises the set as a bit player
apparently Buster Keaton also had a cameo role, but I didn't pick him on my only one viewing
a B Grade flick but I luv 'em, some crazy old maths scientists with a system for picking winners lol
made bearable and absolutely enjoyable by the performances of the 2 gals after the one man
Francis Gifford as cute as a pin (yum), but hold onto your hats when a 20 something Ava Gardner mezmerises the set as a bit player
apparently Buster Keaton also had a cameo role, but I didn't pick him on my only one viewing
Cute Bilko episode, where as a consequence of some golf shoe spike altering his IQ on a punched card he ends up running a gang of genii.
No surprise that he'd divert their efforts towards cracking the card at Saratoga.
No surprise that he'd divert their efforts towards cracking the card at Saratoga.
The film i mentioned was indeed about Gay Future jfc............you might be thinking about the 'Yellow Sam' sting pulled off by the legend that is Barney Curley........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Sam_betting_coup
He did it again in 2010.............http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/barney-curley-nobody-will-win-as-much-on-horse-racing-in-100-years-1988728.html
Bit of a marmite character on the horse racing forum, probably a million threads about him..........you have to love him though if only for this.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE
He did it again in 2010.............http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/barney-curley-nobody-will-win-as-much-on-horse-racing-in-100-years-1988728.html
Bit of a marmite character on the horse racing forum, probably a million threads about him..........you have to love him though if only for this.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE
The Irish Sting I'm thinking of was probably in the early 60s.
One forum vaguely alludes to it, mentioning the winner was backed heavily at 33/1.
I once half caught some docu-drama which might have been referring to it.
As things started to unravel I believe the protagonist uttered something like:
"It's all about the game".
One forum vaguely alludes to it, mentioning the winner was backed heavily at 33/1.
I once half caught some docu-drama which might have been referring to it.
As things started to unravel I believe the protagonist uttered something like:
"It's all about the game".
How about Grand National Night ?
On Talking Pics (328) this afternoon, about a trainer who accidentally kills his wife.
PS Yes I know there was a more recent thread about this sort of thing but I can't find it!
On Talking Pics (328) this afternoon, about a trainer who accidentally kills his wife.
PS Yes I know there was a more recent thread about this sort of thing but I can't find it!
How the hell did you find a 2013 thread to make this post?
A nice stroll down memory lane with loads of former forum contributors (FFC's).
A nice stroll down memory lane with loads of former forum contributors (FFC's).
Blue Fire Lady .... Shocking omission 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blrZC0sOH_A
Blue Fire Lady, all she needs is love.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blrZC0sOH_A
Blue Fire Lady, all she needs is love.....
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